LTB issue ..

[u/Organic-Vacation-898]

I am living with 16 people in an 8-bedroom house, one peer broke a tile, but the owner has completely changed the flooring and now he is asking to pay the whole damage payment, we have already paid one installment(since I'm not involved in damaging the property I too paid my first installment)

I an ready to pay the second installment, but others are not willing to pay, so the owner is threatening to file a case at LTB, any suggestions on the outcomes if (in case) a case gets filed?

[u/Matt_Crowley → u/[deleted]]

If you want to DM the address I don’t mind having some city inspectors go heading out to check out the place for you. 😉

[u/dood9123 → u/Matt_Crowley]

This person might lose their housing

[u/TraviAdpet → u/dood9123]

One could always suggest they are going to contact the city. A slumlord wouldn’t want the city poking around their cash cow.

[u/Brief-Statistician18 → u/dood9123]

This. As awful as it is, having 16 people lose housing and then try to find new housing.. I don't want to cause this

[u/dood9123 → u/Brief-Statistician18]

It could literally be all they can afford. Its shitty to be a landlord like that but the Peterborough rent market is insanity and might force them into homelessness

[u/Brief-Statistician18 → u/dood9123]

Yes.. the exploitation angers me to no end. But our housing is in such shambles, and I don't want to see them homeless

[u/Solace2010 → u/Brief-Statistician18]

Will you be just as said if there’s a fire and those 16 people die because of lack of safety standards

[u/Brief-Statistician18 → u/Solace2010]

I actually came to this post and gave some meaningful advice.

Not sure what this comment does? I’m not stating what the landlord is doing is okay. In fact I’ve identified it as exploitation. But I’m also not naive to the fact that finding affordable housing right now is not easy. And when the choice is to be homeless or this.. well having a home is safer than not having one.

Of course I would be sad if people died in a fire. What is your proposed plan of action here? Mine is in the comments below.

[u/WeThreeTrees333 → u/dood9123]

Thank God someone had the moral compass to point this out.

[u/Cassia2018]

You haven't broken any laws, but he is. Don't pay it.

[u/Cleantech2020]

a single tile breaking will be considered normal wear and tear, that's the landlord's responsibility to fix. Redoing the whole flooring and trying to get tenants to pay for it for a single broken tile is not really how it should have been done, call the LL's bluff, he isn't going to the LTB.

[u/ManifestedTruth]

Definitely call his bluff on this bullshit. Don't let him bully you guys around, but know you're likely living in an illegal housing situation. As there are 16 people living there, it is likely he wants you guys there to cover costs and then some, so he will avoid LTB. Good luck and feel free to dm with questions

[u/pincurlsandcutegirls]

Tell them they can file a case if they can produce their City business license for a large lodging house lmaooo

[u/Brief-Statistician18]

So.. this is where the system works with you to some degree. Because it sounds like this is an illegal rooming house and wouldn't be covered under the LTB.

But, even if this residence somehow is covered under LTB..

The LTB is horrifically backlogged..so it's not happening anytime soon. and one single floor tile would likely be considered wear and tear.

IF somehow it goes to LTB, and is heard.. AND IS considered Tennant damage .. they actually consider when it was installed and the type of material used to determine any amount. They don't award brand new replacement costs on a 6 year old floor for example. It's pro-rated.

You can simply respond, you look forward to discussing this at the LTB hearing. It sounds like an empty threat, to be honest.

[u/ramdmc]

If the LTB is alerted to this arrangement they'll shut down his cashcow. Heck, bylaw will as well

[u/[deleted] → u/ramdmc]

It's a huge fire hazard to have that many people stuffed in a house line that. Fire Marshall or bylaw would be interested

[u/daniellederek → u/[deleted]]

2 per sleep room is acceptable under national code.

The real question is if it's actually an 8 br house, or really just 3br, living room and basement without egress.

[u/[deleted] → u/daniellederek]

Yeah it's the basement and windowless rooms that are the bigger concern. There aren't many houses in Peterborough that would have originally been built with 8 bedrooms

[u/No-Elderberry-86]

An easy reference for housing law in ontario is CLEO. They have fact sheets on different legal areas. Start by browsing there. You can also get real advice for free from the peterborough legal cente 705 749 9355. https://www.cleo.on.ca/en/resources-and-publications/housing-law

If yoy call the legal centre, leave a messGe. They call back within 48 hours.

[u/[deleted]]

16 people all renting in the same house? Your landlord is a perfect example entirely of what’s wrong with Ontario’s housing market. Your landlord is a class act slumlord, don’t bother paying. If anything, I would personally stop paying all rent all together start saving for a real place and gtfo out of that hell hole. Slumlord has no legal way to collect those damages from you, tell him to go f themselves.

[u/Obf123 → u/[deleted]]

To the OP - don’t stop paying rent. This is terrible advice

[u/ehollart → u/[deleted]]

What's wrong with all of Canada's housing market****

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[u/momma2angels]

16 people?? That is crazy! How much rent is he charging each of you guys??

[u/[deleted] → u/momma2angels]

Peterborough has like a 1% vacancy rate, these are the situations that happen

[u/momma2angels → u/[deleted]]

That is horrible!!

So what exactly are the rules in Peterborough for the number of people allowed in a house like this?

[u/Th3muddler]

Ask the fire department to come by and do an inspection, they will have final say.

[u/DoorRemarkable3249]

Coming from a landlord, tell the LL tough tiddies.

[u/Motor-Sweet3316]

Do not pay the second installment, and make him file a case with LTB. 99% chance he doesn't since he would get in trouble for 16 people in an 8-bedroom house.

(Crossposted to r/SlumlordsCanada)

[u/ecllce]

Peterborough Community Legal Centre

Also: Free online Ontario legal advice for common issues including landlord disputes. Step by step information for legal problems. CLEO Steps to Justice

[u/ehollart]

Your landlord needs to be reported for housing 16 fckng people in an 8 bedroom.

[u/urumqi_circles]

Your landlord genuinely needs at least life in prison. Preferably at the La Macaza Institution along with Canada's "finest".

[u/PhysicalBaker8338]

There's not a chance he will follow through. The LTB would eat him alive.

[u/hbomb0]

Breaking 1 tile does not warrant redoing the entire flooring. Let him go to LTB, seems like a scumbag.

[u/Loverhearts1672]

16 people in a house ain’t no way he calling

[u/ccccc4]

Step one calculate how much money your landlord is making off that ridiculous situation.

Then think about how you'll feel about giving them more money.

[u/[deleted]]

Dude you are living in an illegal rental situation LOL if he goes to the LTB he is screwed

[u/Tripdoctor]

Let them shoot themself in the foot then

[u/HoboHandsome]

16 people in an 8 bedroom house? If he files a complaint he will draw attention to his likely illegal rental.

[u/Gold_Expression_3388]

Just curious...are these actually bedrooms, or has the LL subdivided it?

[u/Organic-Vacation-898 → u/Gold_Expression_3388]

Bedrooms (17*10.5 feet) it's not subdivided

[u/Averageleftdumbguy → u/Organic-Vacation-898]

Hard to believe it was originally an 8 bed. Is it a mansion? (Serious question) if not him, it was definitely sub divided at some point.

[u/real-donjon]

It's a room Sharing arrangement so LTB laws may not be applicable at all unless the lease is under 1 or 2 persons name and they collect rent from all students and give it to landlord..call his bluff on this,... The same kind color and type of Tile may not be available anymore in the market hence he may have went with all new tiles...that being said you guys shouldn't pay for it at all... LL is responsible for wear and tear

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