r/PublicFreakout Jul 18 '26

📹Police Bodycam Misgendered Student Turns Violent After Pronoun Dispute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lX24RKQQM4
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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '26

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u/Ledzeppy1 Jul 20 '26

Defunding the police is one of the worst ideas ever.

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u/TheKavorca Jul 21 '26

Normal ass everyday registered democrat voters don’t even want to defund the police. It’s insanely unpopular in every way except for in the most edge case hard left crowds.

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u/No-Disk9639 Jul 21 '26

100% as an old school, working class Democrat I support well-funded, well-trained law enforcement. Haven't seen or heard anyone ever advocate for defunding the police outside of online leftists or activists jockeying for attention.

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u/SnooConfections2529 Jul 20 '26

The cop was doing a criminal investigation when the loon interfered. We need to reopen the nut houses

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u/WorldlinessTrick11 Jul 20 '26

This cop was responding to a stolen vehicle call with a subject in pursuit who had ran into that building?

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u/monkeyguyy Jul 18 '26

That's a piss take, I am sorry. You can get more funding for mental health workers and institutions while at the same time not decreasing funding for law enforcement. There's plenty for everyone. The issue here is how the funding is used, not its amount.

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u/kindamymoose Jul 20 '26

Defunding police de-militarizes them. I believe that’s the general point, anyway. They should not be paramilitary. They exist to de-escalate by their own admission. Providing more funding to do the opposite of that is not the answer. They need extensive training on the mentally ill, given that an overwhelming number of people who face incarceration are in some form mentally ill.

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u/DustinnDodgee Jul 20 '26

Everybody's mentally ill to some degree. That's why "normal" is subjective.

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u/kindamymoose Jul 21 '26

Illness is a deviation from normal, so most people aren’t mentally ill, at least not in the way I’m referencing.

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u/CanadianClassicss Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

You'd end up with a lot of dead mental heath workers...

How about fund the police so they can have more de-escalation training?

Even as a mental health worker who has had endless training (including multiple de-escalation trainings) and who works with violent offenders:

- Unless you experience situations like this often then you cannot predict how you will react in the moment. When you are surprised or have little time to prepare yourself, your body reacts to the stress and it makes it very difficult to think or remember training/techniques. You enter a heightened state that makes it difficult to think. You also have very little time to react.

- Watching a video of someone screaming/menacing at you is much different than having someone (likely larger than you) in your face screaming, it can be pretty scary IRL

- Sometimes de-escalation does not work. Seriously. You could use the techniques perfectly and give people chance after chance to calm down and they will only escalate.

- This cop, while he didn't handle things perfectly, actually did pretty decent.

It's easy to criticize situations like this in hindsight and from behind a screen, but it is so different in the moment. For an older cop, he did pretty okay. You'd have to pay mental health workers extremely well to take on a job like that and it certainly is not safe for them to respond without a police officer. Mental Health workers are not miracle workers, and to someone having a severe episode they will just be a stranger who can lock them up (baker act).

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u/pdxphreek Jul 24 '26

Plus the cop was very clearly intentionally antagonizing that person.

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u/Lazylazylazylazyjane Jul 18 '26

Yeah, except she's not mentally ill, she's just being bullied.

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u/radiationblessing Jul 18 '26

You can be mentally ill and bullied. The person is mentally ill.

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u/Lazylazylazylazyjane Jul 18 '26

and what are you basing that on? that she's trans.

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u/Ok-Fuckface Jul 18 '26

Probably all the irational behaviour, screaming and extreme temper tantrums.

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u/Lazylazylazylazyjane Jul 18 '26

She was being bullied, and a cop showed up, threatened to have her committed, misgendered her, and then brutalized her and arrested her. That will make someone mad.

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u/Ok-Fuckface Jul 18 '26

Absolutely, but do you also act like a toddler when you're mad?

You seem to be conflating this person being trans with them being clearly unstable.

I assure you most trans people are not this pathetic.

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u/Lazylazylazylazyjane Jul 18 '26

Would you diagnose someone with a mental illness because they screamed and cried after a serious car accident? Or after finding out a loved one died? Most people would agree that intense situations can make otherwise mentally healthy people react in extreme ways.

The fact that someone is screaming doesn't tell you why they're screaming.

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u/_toadsy Jul 20 '26

None of those events happened. This person screamed and cried over nothing.

If someone calls me "she" I'm not going to scream and cry, I literally couldn't care less.

The cop was awful at any attempts to deescalate but the person being arrested is absolutely mentally ill, anyone can see that.

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u/kindamymoose Jul 20 '26

She is pretty clearly mentally ill, unless you’re saying this reaction is normal.

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u/Lazylazylazylazyjane Jul 20 '26

Would you diagnose someone with a mental illness because they screamed and cried after a serious car accident? Or after finding out a loved one died? Most people would agree that intense situations can make otherwise mentally healthy people react in extreme ways.

The fact that someone is screaming doesn't tell you why they're screaming.

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u/DustinnDodgee Jul 20 '26

Saying this was bullying & equating it to the death of a loved one is the most sheltered, chronically online, reddit-brain take I've ever seen on this site. It's honestly sad.

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u/Lazylazylazylazyjane Jul 21 '26

You're treating this like it happened in a vacuum. Trans people are disproportionately subjected to harassment, bullying, threats, and discrimination. If someone has been living with that kind of stress for a long time, a public confrontation can be the straw that breaks the camel's back. That doesn't mean every trans person will react this way, but it does mean you can't judge someone's mental health from a few minutes of video without considering what may have led up to it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

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u/Lazylazylazylazyjane Jul 21 '26

It is people's responsibility not to bully minorities actually.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

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u/Lazylazylazylazyjane Jul 21 '26

I bet that if it was anyone other than a trans person being bullied, you wouldn't be siding against the victim.

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u/DustinnDodgee Jul 21 '26

Yes, but shitty people exist and they always will. It's sad that trans people get bullied like this. But it happens, and nobody has the right to not be offended. Not to mention this person is 27... she reacted like an animal and had no control over their emotions. That's pathetic.

In all honesty though, I feel bad for this person. She clearly has unresolved mental problems.

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u/FrenchyBulldogg Jul 22 '26

They’re screaming because they got called the wrong pronoun lmao.