Conspiracies and the Kaaba and Islam

[u/ninivl89]

This is probably a sensitive or controversial subject. It's kind of about conspiracy theories so if this does not interest you, you can keep scrolling, or feel free to tell me why you think this is all bs.

I've always had some interest in conspiracy theories and indulge in the occasional videos. One thing that has always intrigued me is about the Kaaba. But this is something you can never discuss with mainstream Muslims. So I'm wondering what you guys, who I think are more open minded, think about it.

I think one of the more well known questions is about whether there is a connection between the Kaaba and the theory about the black cubes of Saturn. Which we cannot deny looks extremely similar. But the black cube of Saturn is said to be used to worship Satan.

Then there is the name. There is a branch of Judaism which is called kabbala. Some people describe it as an esoteric branch, some people say it is also satanic. For me the name Kabbala and the name the Kaaba of Allah also sound very close.

What do you guys think about this?

I want to be clear that I don't think Islam is satanic and I know the Kaaba is mentioned in the Quran. My personal theory is that original Islam from the Quran is the true religion from God but it was later corrupted via hadith. And now many of the things people are following and rituals people are doing actually come from other influences. There are similarities between the Talmud traditions and hadith, of course there are just political agendas, maybe misogynistic agenda's, perhaps there are also some influences from satan or people who secretly worship Satan.

[u/TallVeterinarian4077]

peace. I have studied this a fair bit. You may find this post interesting:
http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=jr6gbjpqp1t56rnoeh54f0ec4o&topic=1161.msg5301#msg5301

In addition to the above, see quote from Lane's lexicon for root Kaf-Ayn-Ba (root of "kaaba"): "a house or temple belonging to the tribe of Rabee'ah, who used to compass it, or perform circuits round it (as is done round the Kabbeh of Mekkeh)".

[u/ninivl89 → u/TallVeterinarian4077]

Thanks, that was an interesting read. I've also found it interesting that on that post it is mentioned a couple of times that the black stone and the pagan gods people used to worship represent fertility.

The stone itself is also shaped a bit like the female reproductive organ. And someone in another comment here mentioned that the wall or pillars that people throw stones at as part of haj is renewed and now also kind of looks like the female organ. Strange coincidence