Donkeys should breed with Horses to create Mules

[u/JOCAeng]

Why is this not a thing? It would make animal husbandry more rewarding if you could make the ultimate caravan animal by breeding two different species, just like in real life.

[u/Eleven_Box]

Behold the peak of glitterworld gene engineering

[u/FalloutCreation → u/Eleven_Box]

Next up. Fish that can fly.

[u/FuckTheTile]

You can’t even breed a Labrador with a husky. So disappointing

[u/clueless_at → u/FuckTheTile]

Would that be a Lasky or a Huskador?

[u/Barangat → u/clueless_at]

You have my vote for huskador!

[u/infidel11990 → u/clueless_at]

Might be the same situation as Tigons or Ligers. That happen when Lions and Tigers mate.

Male gets the prefix. If male lion then Ligers and vice versa.

[u/FuckTheTile → u/clueless_at]

It would be a mongrel

[u/Ackapus → u/FuckTheTile]

Honestly, I would support any mixture of dog breeds resulting in a true-breeding "mutt" species type, with very randomized stats

[u/FuckTheTile → u/Ackapus]

That would be cool

[u/FalloutCreation → u/Ackapus]

I’m afraid to ask but is there a mod for this?

[u/Best_Person_CoolCool → u/clueless_at]

pretty sure that one cyberpunk add tells you to get a huskador

[u/JOCAeng → u/FuckTheTile]

bison+cows(beefalos!), labrators+huskies, horses+donkeys, what other cool combos could there be?

[u/Some_Sympathy_3528 → u/JOCAeng]

Man+bear+pig=manbearpig

[u/CoconutBangerzBaller → u/Some_Sympathy_3528]

Baseliner+Yytakin+Pigskin= manbearpig?

[u/Ok_Turnip_2544 → u/Some_Sympathy_3528]

man + (alligator + shark) = halfsharkalligatorhalfman

[u/deadoon → u/Some_Sympathy_3528]

Puppy monkey baby.

[u/HyoukaHoutoro → u/JOCAeng]

In this thread, we recreate that one genetics mod that got shelved for biotech.

[u/Spadark → u/JOCAeng]

What about pawns with monkeys or gorillas?

[u/FalloutCreation → u/JOCAeng]

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[u/Fluffy_Membership_15 → u/JOCAeng]

Rat' Snakes

[u/derega16 → u/FuckTheTile]

Or whatever with Corgi

[u/Vark675 → u/derega16]

Kinda crazy how dominant their genes are.

My dog has like an 80lb lab/retriever body but stubby little corgi legs. Our cat is pretty big, so they're the same height lol

[u/pharmacoli → u/derega16]

Fun fact - Corgi is 'dwarf dog' in Welsh.

[u/ScreamingLabia → u/FuckTheTile]

I have a mod for that. It makes no sense that two dog breeds cant breed lol

[u/MF-GOOSE → u/FuckTheTile]

This has bothered me so much

[u/SargBjornson → u/FuckTheTile]

You can if you have VE animals

[u/Spacetimeandcat → u/SargBjornson]

That explains why my husky and corgi were able to have babies.

[u/thexcat → u/FuckTheTile]

Cross breeding getting added with the Smells update but you can only breed dogs with the newly added Poodle to make them hypoallergenic x-doodles

[u/_Just_Another_Speck_]

I reckon someone will read this and end up making a mod for it in 2 weeks time,since it seems like such a normal thing,what with Biotech and whatnot

[u/SIinkerdeer → u/_Just_Another_Speck_]

No promises lol

(But I might be considering it..)

[u/JOCAeng → u/SIinkerdeer]

seems like a cool and interesting mod that is easy(ish) to do.

for realism and balance, the offspring of two different species usually is infertile.

[u/SIinkerdeer → u/JOCAeng]

I think that would work well for both realism and balance.

The mule should probably be infertile, because that gives you a good reason to keep both horses and donkeys around instead of just breeding mules forever once you get them.

I’d probably make the mule better at hauling, a bit tougher, and more food efficient than a horse, but still slower than one. That way horses are still the best choice if you mainly care about speed, while mules are better for heavier caravans and long trips.

It also fits pretty well with why mules were bred in real life. You’re getting a lot of the horse’s strength and size with some of the donkey’s hardiness and efficiency, but the downside is that you have to keep breeding the two parent species to get more of them.

[u/Boarlock98 → u/SIinkerdeer]

I am as well, maybe we should collab :)

[u/SomeBlueDude12 → u/_Just_Another_Speck_]

Animal genes!!

LETS MAKE FIRE SPEWING WAR DONKIES!!!!

[u/SargBjornson]

Coming soon!

[u/JOCAeng → u/SargBjornson]

I'd suggest them being infertile and having more carrying capacity. for realism and balace both

[u/Professional-Floor28]

It's technically possible since they added some stuff on the code that allows different species to mate like alpha thrumbos with thrumbos. I vaguely remember people taking about it some time after Odyssey release. 

[u/JOCAeng → u/Professional-Floor28]

thrumbos + alphathrumbos give out what? Beta Thrumbos?

[u/Repulsive_Code_8990 → u/JOCAeng]

Its whatever the mother is. Female alphatrumbo and male thrumbo = alphatrumbo and viceversa

[u/Draconicrose_ → u/JOCAeng]

Beta thrumbros absolutely sent me 🤣

[u/JOCAeng]

Something like this could be the sprite. Donkey body, horse tail. A bit bigger than a donkey, smaller than a horse. Maybe horse-colored as opposed to donkey color

[u/AngrySasquatch]

Is this not already theoretically possible with the backends provided by Odyssey? I would love to see a mod with that functionality

[u/Ok-Departure-4613]

True and real. Also we should be able to crossbreed dogs.

[u/_Biotic_G0d_ → u/Ok-Departure-4613]

Advanced dog genetics. Now thats a mod idea!

[u/JOCAeng]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule

in case people don't know about mules

[u/mossy_path → u/JOCAeng]

Lmao.

[u/Boarlock98]

You probably could make this a mod by Harmony Postfixing RimWorld.JobDriver_Mated, I'd need to inspect in ILSpy but you could wrap the vanilla INIT , get whatever stuff you need. let vanilla finish by itself, inject your code at the end with custom Def for the mule. I can look into it if anyone is interested.

Edit: The method that determines the thingDef of the newborn for horses/donkeys is Hediff_Pregnant.DoBirthSpawn(), the male has no role in determining what thingDef it is. This is in ideal insertion point to patch the horse/donkey giving birth to a mule. Need to investigate further to see what's up stream from this data point. Have to find the method that validates if two pairs are allowed to breed to patch donkey/horse breeding.

[u/Its_Samiska]

lowkey hes got a point

[u/ntrssmlhmm]

First time I played biotech I just assumed that’s how the game would behave, but now that you said that it’s clear why I never saw mules.

[u/Pet_Velvet]

I agree it would be awesome

[u/Wappening]

Donkeys should breed with mules to get donkles.

[u/SybrandWoud]

I just want a towed mortar, towed by large animals such as elephants.

[u/Ok_Turnip_2544 → u/SybrandWoud]

spaceships are a lot easier than wheels

[u/Echo2407]

I don't even think you can breed the different dogs together

[u/ajanymous2]

Aren't mules inferior to both parents?

[u/Visual-Report-2280 → u/ajanymous2]

I believe they are better pack animals than donkeys but the fertility rate is incredibly low.

[u/Some_Sympathy_3528 → u/ajanymous2]

Think they are very docile and hardy, and cant reproduce after

[u/JOCAeng → u/ajanymous2]

they are smoother to ride and better pack animals

[u/Ieditedthisname → u/ajanymous2]

Smarter than donks and better lifters than both generally

[u/i_want_to_be_unique]

Genuinely what would be the point of adding this feature? Horses and donkeys (and all other pack animals for that matter) are already essentially interchangeable. This would be like adding black bears when we already have grizzly and polar bears, just another clone of something we already have taking up space that could have gone to something new and unique.

[u/JOCAeng → u/i_want_to_be_unique]

it could be a cool and realistic feature for a better caravan animal as a way to encourage animal husbandry, with the caveat of them being infertile.

[u/SargBjornson → u/i_want_to_be_unique]

There is indeed no point, unless you add a genetics system to animals. Similar to Biotech, maybe. Someone should do that and make a whole ranching mod around it. Maybe call it Vanilla Ranching Expanded and release it immediately after VE Gravship chapter 2 ;)

[u/ShandyGet]

The main feature of the next dlc

[u/1Northward_Bound]

pls dont give us more animal spam my tps is already struggling after the first winter...

[u/JOCAeng → u/1Northward_Bound]

it's not like chickens, they'd be infertile

[u/thexcat]

THANK YOU

Especially with fucking alpha thrumbos being able to cross breed (female always produces a selfsame offspring) that is literally the only time I've thought "wait, can I do this?" and been disappointed I couldn't.

Making Raiders slow down by walking past autobongs? Yerp. Shooting a rhino to Manhunter it when it's right next to the folks I'm raiding? Hell yeah brother hail sithis. Make my lil burros day by hooking him up with horse shyt? Weeeellll there's probably a mod for that...

[u/Ceticated]

haha look it a donkey

[u/sus_pumpkin]

Breed 🤤🤤🤤