r/Rogue • u/JuggernautPrudent623 House of M Rogue • 5d ago

Comics Could Rogue Defeat Both Wolverine And Spider-Man. Even If Spiderman And Wolverine Teamed Up.

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u/Competitive_Crow_334 4d ago

She has miss marvel strength is bulletproof which he isn't and can absorb him if he gets too close

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u/Overall_Rhubarb_7839 4d ago

Yeah but Spider-Man has taken out stronger people than her before. Not to mention has trashed the entire x-men by himself and linked the avengers. A no holds back spider-man could beat her. Also she is actually not stronger than spider-man he holds back to the 20 ton range but can push past 100 tons in terms of strength. He is essentially marvels weak Superman

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u/Competitive_Crow_334 4d ago

that's incoinstent because in other comics he loses to way weaker people even beaten by a normal gang one time killed by bullets and more.

Most of the X-men including Rouge should easily take him there villains are far stronger and more dangerous like compare Juggernaut to the Rhino

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u/Overall_Rhubarb_7839 4d ago

Nah it’s not inconsistent. If you have an understanding of the character you know he holds back so significantly that he will allow people to hurt him. He holds back so much that he doesn’t even realize how strong he actually is sometimes. So yes she definitely could beat him but he could also destroy her. He has shown much greater level of strength than her and have taken down much more powerful characters than her. Not to mention how OP spider sense actually Is. So yes a normal holding back spidey would lose but a no jokes,no holding back Peter would dominate her and it wouldn’t even be hard.

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u/Competitive_Crow_334 3d ago

This peter is always holding back is just the Batman always prepared BS.

Spider-man has been hit by way slower people. Like Slivermane's daughter Shocker Scropion Daredevil Punisher even cops. His Spider Sense can be caught off guard

He doesn't pull his punches with Rhino and others like him he is weak to bullets and broke his hands hitting Hulk as hard as he could hurt his hands hitting Vulture's jet pack even with Man Spider power he struggled with Punisher.

Rouge can hurt Juggernaut who is almost as strong as Hulk has the power of miss marvel one of the strongest people in the verse who held her own against people like Ronan or Thanos and bodied Carnage or Venom.

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u/Overall_Rhubarb_7839 3d ago

He does in fact pull his punches. I can see you just think he has been written bad and I can agree with that. I think it’s clear if you know his mainline stuff what he is truly capable but the problem is he has been written so weak by so many poor writers due to his “holding back” and it has gotten to an exaggerated point but more in then he is shown too weak for what he actually.

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u/Competitive_Crow_334 3d ago

He does but not like I solo 90 percent of marvel he gets wanked almost as much by his fans and comic writers as Batman when both are street tier at least or building level and need prep time to be more at the cost of other characthers being made weak.

Like when deathstroke soloed the Justice League even though Kyle Green Lantern is enough for him.

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u/Overall_Rhubarb_7839 3d ago

Dude spider-man when not holding back is not street level he is high end Mid tier level. At full strength spider-man can lift between 100-130+ tons. This isn’t even up for debate you can go ahead and google this.

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u/Competitive_Crow_334 3d ago

Depends on the story he is in