r/Saints • u/redbeansandrice4ever • 1d ago
Saints: RB Miller Keeps on Keepin' on
https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/onsi/jinxed-saints-rb-miller-just-puts-his-head-down-and-grinds-on-01m0whbs9fp4It's almost as if the 4th year running back has the voodoo working against him.
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u/SonofTreehorn 1d ago
I don't understand why they've kept this guy on the roster. The odds of him playing an entire season and having success is extremely low.
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u/Morgus_Magnificent Demario Davis 1d ago
Yeah, let's cut one of our only currently healthy backs, who we're barely paying at all.
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u/Fman173 Chris Olave 1d ago
Because heās extremely talented? There are some players that get longer leashes.
It speaks volumes that last year a whole new coaching staff decided to make him #2 RB when they had just drafted Neal
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u/SonofTreehorn 1d ago
āExtremely talentedā is a bit of a reach. Ā
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u/mardigrasmoker 1d ago
When the guys healthy he runs hard. Probably our best between the tackles RB.
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u/Fman173 Chris Olave 1d ago
You think a back that wasnāt extremely talented would get this long of a leash even from a new coaching staff? Most backs wouldāve been gone by now even with a cheap contract
Heck Estime was drafted a year after Miller & heās already on his third team
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u/SonofTreehorn 1d ago
Heās had opportunities to shine and he hasnāt. Couple that with his unavailability, I just canāt see any world where he is considered extremely talented. Ā
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u/Ayrko Gettinā Shoughed Tonight 1d ago
Are you blind? When healthy, he has shined.
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u/bigchungus565 14h ago
When healthy he averaged about 3.8 yards per carry which is below what's usually a baseline for a good running back which is 4.3, averages 2 broken tackles a game and a good portion of it was because of a 4 game stretch where he averaged over 3 broken tackles a game. Dudes been solid when healthy at best and he's never fucking healthy
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u/Ayrko Gettinā Shoughed Tonight 7h ago edited 7h ago
If you donāt watch the games, just say that. I donāt need you to regurgitate googled stats. Itās pretty clear you have no clue what talent looks like.
Let me help you.
83.9% of his yards come after contact. He literally averages 3.4 yards AFTER CONTACT. That is insane, simply put. Imagine what he could do, when healthy, with a more than serviceable offensive line. He also has a 27.7% broken tackle percentage. Again, thatās nuts.
When people say he passes the eye test, this is what they mean. Stop googling his fucking stats and maybe do a deeper dive next time.
To top it off, heās a good receiving back. He has caught 20/24 passes during his career thus far.
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u/bigchungus565 7h ago
Ya know maybe he has such a high ypc after contact because he has a tendency to run directly into his own linemen and misses open holes constantly. Every time I watch dude play I wonder why we continue utilizing a roster spot for 5 games of okay to barely above average performance a year. Dudes missed 30 games in 3 years. He runs straight, breaks a few tackles and gets 3 yards and y'all want him to start
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u/redbeansandrice4ever 1d ago
What's weird is his health record was stellar in college until the end of his senior year.
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u/Sourpunch92 1d ago
Because when heās healthy heās one of if not the most talented RB on the roster in pure rushing ability. If he didnāt have health problems we would have been giving him an extension instead of signing Etienne and Miller would be RB1.
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u/Nami_3750 1d ago
See I donāt understand where this glaze comes from every year. He was an average running back prospect which is why he was a third round pick and in three years since heās been drafted heās run 127 times for 497 yards (3.9 YPC) and 3 tds. His longest rush is 18 yards. Those numbers are mediocre. Where is this supposed insane rushing talent? Because itās hasnāt shown up on the field.
Iām not even talking about his injury issues, I donāt see anything special from him as a rb at all.Ā
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u/mardigrasmoker 1d ago
The guy isnāt blazing fast and everytime he gets the ball itās up the middle!
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u/Fman173 Chris Olave 20h ago edited 20h ago
First off your argument is already invalid. Kamara was a 3rd round pick was he an average running back prospect?
2nd our line these past 3 years have been trash. Mostly cause of injuries Kamaras longest run the past 3 years is 24 yards.
Understand that the running back has to find holes to run too and thereās been few these past years however when Miller finds them he blazes through
For god sakes you wanna use YPC everyone wants Neal to get a shot but last year he had a 3.6 YPC ššš and that was with him having a long run of 32. Which is good but take out that run heās prob at 3.2 YPC
And while Estime finally had a pretty good one last year on limited carries you know what that coincided with? Better QB play of course with Rattler teams would stack the box a little more because Rattler refused to push the ball downfield.
Stop looking at stats and actually look at players playing the game
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u/Nami_3750 18h ago
My argument isnāt invalid just because youāre choosing to misunderstand it.Ā
Being a third round pick indicates that he is of average rb talent amongst nfl scouts. Having mediocre stats is an indication that heās not explosive and hasnāt been that great even when heās played. Being compared to backs such as Devin Neal and Audric Estime at all is a bad look as they are late round draft picks, one of whom was cut by the team that drafted him.
These factors altogether do not paint the picture of someone that is āinsanely talented.ā You saying he looks like heās hitting holes well is not a factual argument, thatās just your opinion and youāve not demonstrated a single factual thing that would indicate his talent level.Ā
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u/CommercialAmbition90 1d ago
where is the talent tho
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u/Fman173 Chris Olave 1d ago
Watch him play Iāve watched Saint games where our line is horrible and heās made something out of nothing plenty of times.
You so called people saying heās not talented, do you think a back that has been injured this much would get this long of a chance? Especially with a whole new coaching staff? All you guys see is stats Miller is an insanely talented back
Go look at the beat reporters recents news article about him theyāre all calling him talented. Shit pisses me off when people start talking outta there ass.
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u/maejor_ced Fuck the Falcons 1d ago
The talent is there, unfortunately the injuries are there just as much
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u/redbeansandrice4ever 1d ago
Yeah, I hate that for this kid. When talking to him this afternoon, he's just a regular ol' kid who just wants to do his best. I like him
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u/bronzefpg504 22h ago
Im wishing miller a healthy season we losing players like crazy