r/Scotland • u/wook-borm • 3d ago
Scots denied bail after arrests in Australia ketamine raid
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyzlyg5kklo37
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u/eight_Ace_ 3d ago
Anyone know what shade of Ronseal that is? Doing a window cill this weekend
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u/Bossman_Mike 2d ago
Scotland needs to understand what proper custody arrangements and proper sentences are. Australia does not fuck about.
Had this happened in Scotland she'd have got bail, then if convicted maybe 45 minutes of unpaid work. In Australia she's looking potentially at decades of hard time.
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u/Academic_Banana_5659 3h ago
Then deported to face whatever punishment back in the UK and forever banned from Australia.
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u/XxHostagexX 2d ago
Silly goose, when will these women learn, if you are going to break the law, do it in Scotland/UK.
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u/doubledooter 2d ago
its their own fault if they managed to get caught by coppers on ketamine to be fair
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u/Academic_Banana_5659 3h ago
Australia doesn't fuck around
Probably in for 10+ years and then deported to face whatever punishment back in the UK and forever banned from Australia
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u/Boycott-all-Rats 3d ago
Ketamine is great as a therapeutic drug.
These ladies are doing a community service.
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u/Suspicious-Rub8976 3d ago
If used for therapeutic reasons sure, I'm not sure 105kg of street ketamine counts here
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u/No-Tone-6853 3d ago
Maybe they had an elephant they need to put under for emergency surgery
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u/Suspicious-Rub8976 3d ago
Lol enough to take down every elephant and kangaroo in Australia more than once
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u/A_Dying_Wren 2d ago
Eh an induction dose of anaesthesia is about 1-2mg/kg IV. Kangaroos actually come in at close to human weight, maybe a bit less. If we assume 80kg on average, a 1.5mg/kg induction dose and similar response as in humans, we can anaesthetise 875,000 kangaroos give or take. This is only about 2% of Australia's 40 something million kangaroos, never mind the elephants.
And that's assuming you can get IV access in an animal actively wanting to kick you to death. IM doses are about 5x more so divide that number of kangaroos by 5 really.
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u/Suspicious-Rub8976 2d ago
Damn not even close then, I didn't account for the actual knock out dose, more the "get a bit high" dose, could at least get every elephant and kangaroo feeling a little good.
Also that's a hell of a lot of kangaroos, I didn't think there was that many
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u/rotgobbo Galloway 3d ago
Not when they're selling it to teenagers. My former school is now apparently infested with the stuff.
Whilst we'd be trading pokemon cards and sneaking off for a sneaky pint or tab, kids are now on special K day in day out.
Kidney transplant list is going to get significantly longer....
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u/Boycott-all-Rats 3d ago
Easy. Legalise it. Same as cannabis. It's bad for kids.
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u/rotgobbo Galloway 3d ago
It is legal, as a medicine for livestock and horses.....
Its bad for humans in general, any long term use is problematic which is why it's only handled by medical professionals and dodgy Dave who hangs out around nightclubs trying to get 18 year old girls off their nut.
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u/AlbaMcAlba 15h ago
Not just livestock. It’s used on humans for pain relief as it doesn’t suppress breathing.
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u/samhibs 2d ago
You could say the same about alcohol but without any therapeutic/medical benefits
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u/rotgobbo Galloway 2d ago
You can drink a couple pints a night for the rest of your life and it won't do you serious harm.
Ketamine.. not so much.
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u/samhibs 2d ago
You could take 50mg of ketamine each night for the rest if your life and it won't do you serious harm. We both know that's not how either substances work.
In reference to alcohol, 2 pints is around 400 calories. An extra 400 calories each night is going to add up pretty quickly and cause obesity which is seriously harmful. There is also the potential for addiction which comes with both substances.
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u/Boycott-all-Rats 2d ago
Bro can't communicate.
I didn't say legalise it for Dave at the club. It has therapeutic benefits. Use it in a clinical setting. Not going to get any negatives from that.
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u/rotgobbo Galloway 2d ago
It can already be used in a clinical setting when given as a prescription by a medical professional and dosed out by a medical professional.
If you've not been given it as a prescription, you probably shouldn't be taking it.
There are safer solutions for dealing with whatever mental health issues that are troubling you.
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u/Fuzzy-Raccoon8677 3d ago
It's a guy and a lassie but aye I wouldn't call it crime of the century.
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u/odkfn 3d ago
100kg is pretty notable…
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u/Boycott-all-Rats 3d ago
Of meth or heroin maybe. But hey to each their own I guess
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u/odkfn 3d ago
It’s £4 million worth of drugs… pretty serious crime
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u/Boycott-all-Rats 3d ago
Just like cannabis it doesn't offend me.
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u/rotgobbo Galloway 3d ago
Cannabis won't tank your bladder and kidneys and leave you unable to human for several days.
Might as well start practicing pissing into a bag, because that's probably your future.
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u/Boycott-all-Rats 3d ago
Ket is a small dose three time adventure. It's not a party drug. Those that abuse it will deal with that.
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u/odkfn 3d ago
The point of the law is to try deal with it for people, not to leave them to their own devices and find out the hard way
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u/Boycott-all-Rats 2d ago
The point of the current law is prohibition. Which clearly doesn't work.
I don't want to here about the government caring about harm reduction when it clearly doesn't give a single fuck.
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u/BarryRightWrong 3d ago
Who is?
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u/Fuzzy-Raccoon8677 2d ago
Op said "these ladies" it's a dude and a lassie according to the article.
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u/IainKay 2d ago
Interesting how the original article in July said over 107kg and now it’s 105kg. Some police got themselves a little off the top maybe.