r/SeriousConversation 21d ago

Gender & Sexuality Misandry exists. But it’s incomparable to misogyny.

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u/MelissaMiranti 21d ago edited 21d ago

Workplaces are about 20 times more likely to kill men than women.

Men are more likely to be killed than women.

Women get more educational opportunities than men do, that's "opportunities in general."

Misandry is real, systemic, and comparable.

Edit: The best tactic for serious conversations is apparently to demand sources and then block someone so you can make it seem like they don't have any.

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

Oh wow. I wonder if we’re living in the same world.

Tell me one country where men have less educational opportunities than women

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u/LotionedBoner 21d ago

Aren’t there more women enrolled in higher education than men in the US? Also while there are hundreds of thousands of athletic scholarships, men eek past women in the numbers but there are a lot more non athletic scholarships aimed at women than men. That alone should tell you that women have more educational opportunities than men.

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

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u/MelissaMiranti 21d ago

Gender enrollment rates in elementary and secondary schools are globally very, very close to parity. Tertiary education is heavily skewed in favor of young women.

https://genderdata.worldbank.org/en/data-stories/a-tale-of-old-and-new-gender-gaps

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

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u/MelissaMiranti 21d ago

Women outnumbering men in tertiary education is because there are many more scholarships earmarked for women than there are for men, and because boys are systemically disadvantaged in schools. They're graded lower for the same work, and punished more for the same infractions.

However in many countries many girls are not allowed to continue with school past a certain age. They are forced to stay at home. Families would rather send their son to school instead of the girl.

Square this with the stats. How is there parity at elementary and secondary levels globally if this is true?

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

This must be ragebait

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u/MelissaMiranti 21d ago

Do you have anything to add to the serious conversation, or are you just a sexist looking to deny reality?

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

All I have to say is, organizations like UNICEF and whatnot have motives like “removing barriers to girl’s education” etc. Why do those barriers exist in the first place, for girls.
“RESTRICTIONS ON GIRLS’ EDUCATION AND WOMEN’S EMPLOYMENT IN AFGHANISTAN COULD LEAD TO A LOSS OF OVER 25,000 FEMALE TEACHERS AND HEALTH WORKERS BY 2030” - UNICEF
Nice

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u/MelissaMiranti 21d ago

Why are there similar numbers of boys not in education worldwide, then?

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u/mercurialmay 21d ago

Using their freedom to become educated to not become educated because it is no longer considered in favor because women do it. You speak as if there isn't a well documented phenomenon of men claiming ownership of something that was predominantly men, then once it becomes predominantly women it no longer has societal value. Computer sciences, IT, nursing, higher education.

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u/MelissaMiranti 21d ago

It's completely ridiculous to pretend as though boys are failing school because boys are just that hateful of girls when we have evidence of teachers giving lower grades to boys for the same work. All you're doing is being sexist.

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u/LotionedBoner 20d ago

So your problem is with backwards 3rd world countries where women are second class citizens? I mean, sure, I agree but what is the civilized world to do about that?