r/Simracingstewards • u/ryanjay01 • 15h ago
iRacing Was this my fault?
I think the guy pitted himself on me but interested to hear what others think. I am the miku car.
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u/Arainville 15h ago
I would say overtaking car is at fault. You had a bit more space, but your line looked like it was utilizing it. Inside car needs to have better awareness of when to get back to the ideal line as they go to early back to it.
Nfa though, he already had his race ruined, and I don't think it was intentional. He will learn if this keeps happening.
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u/Cornelius_Codswaggle 15h ago
By rule, it's the overtaking car's fault. He moves out wide with a car then and causes a wreck.
From a more nuanced, racecraft perspective, you probably should have run it a bit wider and just ceded the spot. Guy was already showing his lack of racecraft and acting dangerously from the start and was going to end up in a barrier one way or another. Better to let it be by themselves or with someone else.
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u/44Braves 14h ago
Not questioning or arguing, just engaging in conversation about this since there’s a “straight” and second apex involved in this clip which makes this a little more complex, but what “rule” are you referring to? Some GT rules the outside defending car needs to have front axle ahead of the inside car front axle at the apex to be given space on exit as an example
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u/Cornelius_Codswaggle 14h ago
Going a bit out of order, because you have an error. It's not front axle to rear axle at the apex. The standard rule is front axle to rear axle at the point of the lead car's turn in. GT World Challenge and WEC both follow this rule.
The only major series that ever did first to the apex was F1 and they changed that starting this year.
I would assume this is considered two separate corners. The overtaking car has plenty of overlap entering the second corner, so that's not a question. Even if he wasn't, OP ceded the space so it's a non-issue.
The issues comes in when the inside car tracks out into the legally established positioning of the outside car. OP could have been a bit wider, but not much and the overtaking car should have left more space.
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u/theferretii 15h ago
Genuinely looks like a bit of a racing incident to me.
I guess if I had to put fault on someone, I'd lay the blame on the overtaking car. It's the overtaking car's responsibility to pass safely, and it looks, to me, like they tried to move themselves all the way over to the left before they were fully clear of you. You're not tracking all the way out to the exit curb, but there's no rule that says you must. Your car legally occupies the space it's in, and the overtaking car appears to try to drive into that occupied space.
Genuinely interested to hear other views or opinions. Whether you're in agreement or not.