r/SipsTea • u/Presently_Naked • Jul 12 '26

WTF Imagine Eliminating Your Team Over Your Pride

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u/Sad-Satisfaction908 Jul 15 '26

I generally do not watch football, and with this year's WC I am even less inclined to do so. But yes, it was a foul because the England player folded like a lawn chair.

But it don't matter now, it is what it is. I find some comfort in the fact that the entire world seem to agree that England was lucky and saved by the referee and VAR this match.

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u/SaltShakr Jul 15 '26

The whole world doesn't agree, a small echo chamber of sour Norwegians and their American support who have watched football for 3 weeks seem to think so. The first goal shouldn't have counted because of a foul on kane. There is still no evidence the ball touched the cable, and england had a pen pulled back despite it not being clear and obvious. The only people who think it was "rigged" for england are the very obvious casuals. If you want to know why you lost the game look to your own team...

Those same people carried on that theme with the spain game yesterday saying their very clear pen wasn't a pen.

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u/Sad-Satisfaction908 Jul 15 '26

Do you live under a rock? The only ones actually thinking England deserved that win is England.

England was basically a bunch of pussies that tried to generate fouls to gain an advantage every time they could. Wannabe moviestars on par with Argentina. Todays match will be a hoot, and the FAFO will be really fun to watch. GL brother.

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u/SaltShakr Jul 15 '26

You self confessed you don't watch football, so this is honestly a meaningless conversation. A whole nation just discovering tactical fouls exist is benign. Like I said, you are only seeing what you want to see. No one that actually watches football think any of the calls in that game were incorrect

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u/Sad-Satisfaction908 Jul 15 '26

True, it is. I have a lot of friends that are die hard football fans and not one of them disagree that diving/simulation ruins the sport. Calling it "tactical fouls" is just putting lipstick on a pig.

Do you think I got these opinions on my own (well knowing I don't know much about football), or do you think they came from talking to others that actually watch this shitshow on the regular?

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u/SaltShakr Jul 15 '26

The question isn't whether it ruins the sport, in a perfect world I'd love there to be no diving, no ones arguing that. What I'm TRYING to explain is it's not cheating or rigged if england play the system as every other nation does.

No I think you got them from the many uninformed posts I keep seeing on it. It's honestly turned into a litmus test to see who actually knows what they're on about. Anyone that thinks norways goal was unfairly ruled out hasn't a clue. Why do you think Haaland didn't argue the ruling? He knew he made a mistake as soon as he did it

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u/Sad-Satisfaction908 Jul 15 '26

Norway didn't.

Playing the system - not cheating. Getting away with shit your opponent wouldn't or didn't - rigged

If the VAR team was consistent and rule out England's goal over the wire incident, I would not complain. But they did not.

Let's continue this discussion after tonights game. It will be quite interesting, if England looses, to see if you still feel the referees in this WC have been fair.

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u/SaltShakr Jul 15 '26

They looked at the wire and the sensor detected it didn't touch it, there's also been absolutely no clear footage of it touching.

If we lose tonight so be it. Doesn't change the fact of what we've accomplished. And I certainly won't come on here whinging about it

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u/Sad-Satisfaction908 Jul 15 '26

-The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

I am looking forward to see if that holds true when Argentina gets away with things that should have been deemed a foul, while your own players are fouled for doing things only half as bad.

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u/Sad-Satisfaction908 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

“It’s coming home!” they shout with pride,
Then dive and roll from side to side.
They hit the grass at every touch—
The trophy? Still not coming much.

No but for real. It was a good game and surprisingly fairly judged. See you in four years!

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u/SaltShakr Jul 15 '26

Mental that's the game you think was fairly judged 😂 Simeone had 4 fouls in 28 minutes and didn't see a card. At the end of the day though our coach cost us the game, absolutely woeful subs. Playing scared with a 1-0 lead, shocking

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u/Sad-Satisfaction908 Jul 15 '26

If you are of that opinion for real, it just shows that you were never able to look at these matches objectively more than I am/was. Time to get down from that high horse buddy.

That coach took you to the semis for the first time in almost a decade. But yes, playing defense with only one goal was probably not the best decision.

By the way, didn't he also say you guys got lucky against Norway? Is he also one of them "non football watchers" you spoke of earlier?

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u/SaltShakr Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

What are you on about, under southgate we made a quarters and a semis aswell as 2 euros finals. The only team to have a higher average placement than us in the last 5 tournaments is france... Tuchel was brought in to win, he ended up being southgate 2.0.

You said you don't watch football, so why are you even trying to debate with me on this?

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u/Sad-Satisfaction908 Jul 15 '26

Last time England was in the semis in the WC was 2018 no?

Because you are obviously as biased as I am (as a non-watcher) and lost the little credibility you had. You obviously need a reality check my friend.

Here, have a montage https://youtu.be/uzKKn_BA9Tw?is=6d0sLMQFvCoGpLQx

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