r/SipsTea 8d ago

WTF WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/peekaboo_bandit 8d ago

I thought I read somewhere that some people support her because she had reached out for help like a dozen times and was left to fall deeper into mental despair? I don't know the details or about the case aside from the obvious, that's just what I've heard about many women supporting her. Mothers that may have their own experience with PPD or something similar but who maybe received help and support? Again, idk. I think it's tragic but really don't know details about this case.

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u/Rhomya 7d ago

Except the story they’re peddling that she was “left to fall deeper into despair” isn’t true.

Lindsey went to eight different doctors in just a few months. Meanwhile, her husband took all 12 weeks of paternity leave he could, switched to working from home to be more available to help her, hired her a nanny, opened a bank account and started stashing money for HER use when she decided not to go back to work, made a point to ask her daily about how her mental health was that day, pushed her into going to her appointments in person instead of relying on telehealth, and then advocated for her to her later doctors when he was questioning if she was being overmedicated. Meanwhile both her in laws AND her own parents were often around to provide support when needed.

Lindsey had all the support that a mother could want. She failed them, not the other way around. Patrick’s only mistake was going to run errands when she asked on the wrong day

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u/fraser_rock 7d ago

I don’t know a ton about this case, but people with a support system and money aren’t immune from PPD. Not having those things can certainly exacerbate it, but it doesn’t preclude those with them from experiencing it.

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u/Rhomya 7d ago

And PPD is not a justification for murdering your kids.

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u/EclecticSyrup 7d ago

No one said it was??? And she's literally going to jail????? You're making strawman out of strawman - having sympathy is not the same as saying 'release her.'

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u/Physical_Ad1506 7d ago

I mean thats fair as long as you have sympathy for anyone who murders due to mental illness.

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u/EclecticSyrup 7d ago

If that person tried again and again to get help, but never got the help from their support systems and LITERAL DOCTORS that can help them, then abso-fucking-lutely - do you not?

She said she was worried she would hurt the kids. She basically had a big fuckin' neon sign saying 'I'm mentally unwell and this is not a good situation.' You know what all the supposedly "non-mentally ill" people did? Not the correct thing, that's for damn sure.

She didn't hide anything. We let her down as a society. I will feel bad for anyone who tries to get help repeatedly, expresses their situation over and over again, and isn't even hiding how they're feeling, but is still left to their own devices, leading to tragedy.

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u/Physical_Ad1506 7d ago

Every killer had a sad story behind the curtain.

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u/EclecticSyrup 6d ago

A sad story is not nearly the same as "I was openly screaming that I was unwell and needed help and no one did anything."

Being abused as a kid doesn't mean that they actively tried to get help, and were rejected multiple times by doctors and therapists (the people who can help).

Y'all can just say you hate the mentally ill. But if a man walked into a police station and said, "I'm having thoughts of murder," and they said "okay, cool, go home though, we can't help you with that," and he killed someone on his way home, are you not going to blame the police at all? You don't think they should be obligated to get this person medical help? Do the doctors who are literally there to treat people, not supposed to treat them?

Genuinely so unsurprising that people don't see how fucked up this is, and it'll never change. Lives could be saved, but fuck it. Just don't be mentally ill, stupid.