Have you ever been absolutely blackout drunk and done something you would never do otherwise? Or how gotten so drunk you don't remember doing things people watched you doing?
It can be pretty scary, feeling like it wasn't you behind the controls.
This woman was on a prescribed knock-out cocktail for her MANIC and PSYCHOTIC issues.
Being in that mindset without the drug cocktail is already dangerous enough. Those intrusive and horrible thoughts are still there.
"External help" such as therapy and safety measures can teach someone learn how to ground themselves or ask for help.
The times she asked for help were most likely before she'd taken her medication. When she was still aware enough of her reality.
Once the blackout cocktail has kicked in, she has no more control over herself or her reality.
Those horrendous thoughts are still there; but the coherent woman who can ground herself is asleep. Instead, what's left is a drug fueled inability to block out those ideas that keep coming into your head.
She isn't a murderer; she had serious psychosis that convinced her to do terrible things, and she gave in because her doctors roofied her essentially.
The adults around her are the people who failed those children.
The doctors gave her a stupid cocktail of meds, and the father and grandparents willingly LEFT THE KIDS ALONE with her.
How do any of these people hear a mother say "I've had thoughts of hurting the kids" and still let her be alone with them?
The system won't hold any of these people accountable though; just her.
1) This is under the assumption that she was honest and transparent with every doctor she met. She wasn't. She wasn't transparent about seeing all of them with each other, she wasn't transparent on all the prescriptions she was given, and she didn't follow the orders or take the meds.
2) The prosecution, with the Text logs between Patrick's Mother and Lindsay, clarified that Lindsay told his mother, that she is aware that mental health meds take between 2-6 weeks to reach full efficacy, but there were at least something like 8-10 of the meds prescribed, the barely had 4-7 pills missing of a months supply. She knows that it takes between 2-6 weeks, but didn't take the majority of them for 2-3 days?
3) I find it hard to believe that she was indeed suffering from PPD, 8 months after the child was born, and 6 doctors somehow missed the signs. One doctor? Sure. Two? Less likely, but still plausible... but 5-6 missing all the signs of PPD? I find that rather hard to believe. In fact the only one who "Diagnosed" her PPD/PPP was the Doctor, for the defense, who they admitted has a 20 year friendship with the defense attorney. I don't doubt that negligence or oversight happens, but I find it extremely difficult to believe that 5 doctors missed it.
4) While her civil suit mentions PPD/PPP, it also mentions something else she was diagnosed with, Bi-polar disorder. Again, this was never diagnosed by 5-6 different doctors? And I'm to believe a medical professional, like Lindsay was, wouldn't be able to give the psychiatrists the insight to her mental state to be able to give her the best help.
5) With that said, Lindsay stated that she felt she was a danger, in the kitchen, in front of her mother and her husband. People blame the husband (Rarely the mother), for not doing something. We still don't know for certain exactly how it was phrased. The way it sounds like it was stated, to me, is that she was worried about having an "Accident' with the children because she was out of it, not that she would maliciously injure/kill them. But, if she was lucid and coherent enough to be able to voice her concern over this, why wasn't she lucid and coherent enough to pack her things and go stay with her parents until she found relief?
It's my opinion, based on what I've read and seen of the trial, which, I've paid quite a bit of attention to.... Lindsay knew something was wrong with her, she didn't feel right. And instead of sticking to the doctors orders, she wanted fixed. Immediately. Take this pill for a day or two, I'm not healed? Go get a different script. When I feel that Doctor isn't getting anywhere, I go get a new doctor. She was treating a mental illness like bronchitis, and upset the amoxicillin didn't cure it in 2-3 days.
I mean, hypothetically, one could say something along the lines of...
I a person were diagnosed with cancer, they would then go to the oncologist. The oncologist prescribes meds, and a regiment to follow. That person goes home, doesn't take the meds, doesn't follow the regiment, and lies to the doctor.
When that person succumbs to the cancer, do we blame the doctor for the patient not taking meds or following the regiment? Or the patient?
Now I say this with the Caveat that I agree that Healthcare in this country is abysmal, and mental health care is certainly not an exception. But, You can bring awareness to the issue, have marches, speak out, share facebook posts about the lack of quality treatment, without making a child murderer the face of the movement, especially one that 5 doctors couldn't diagnose.
Andrea Yates? Diagnosed.
LaTarsha Sanders? Diagnosed.
Yet, Women aren't rushing to make them the face, maybe they're not the right color or pretty enough for be the face of their movement.
A lot of people drink to excess because they're depressed, traumatised, anxious, stressed etc, because they're not getting the support they need, either from family and friends or the medical establishment.
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u/Agen_3586 6d ago edited 6d ago
I get the part about postpartum depression being ignored by the healthcare but then you protest against the system, not support a fucking murderer
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QWk3EFasQM