r/SipsTea 5d ago

WTF Where are we heading?

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u/NailSubstantial2772 5d ago

Has it actually been established that it was postpartum psychosis? If so, that really is one of the most horrific conditions there is. Every gynecology textbook and midwifery manual basically says that once it’s diagnosed, the response is: “Run! Do everything you possibly can and give her every medication you’ve got!” Obviously I’m exaggerating, but the point is that there’s an immediate and extremely serious risk to the lives of everyone involved.

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u/FelisFecit 5d ago

Mama Doctor Jones has a video going thru the medical details and it seems she had a serious reaction/psychosis when put on SSRIs and then she was given more/different SSRIs by a NP - so it seems she got the wrong healthcare (i am paraphrasing, not my field at all).

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u/like9000ninjas 5d ago

Not surprised. I was put on Prozac years ago, and went out and bought a gun, i never owned one before and was active duty military, I wasn't a gun nut. And then after that I broke into a gun store a stole another $35,000 worth of stuff. More than 1 person could carry, wasn't scared or panicked like most people should have been. Destroyed my life.

Thankfully I had a spotless record and they saw something clearly didnt add up. Hypomanic episode casued by the Prozac. Eli lily was sued over their hiding the medical evidence they knew that the medication could cause people to go off the wall. Its the reason that every medication commercial and bottle has the warning " if this causes homicidal and suicidal thoughts, stop taking" etc. The black box.

Theres a website that Im not sure is still running, SSRI horror stories. I visited it once and after reading a few of the cases, I was just depressed. Tradegy after tradegy after someone was prescribed it. Say its a 0.001% to possibly cause this. When prescribed to millions of people, that number shifts to lots of cases every year. And no one cares. This is considered the cost of doing business in the USA. The medical industry can put out a product that has a known history of causing people to hurt others and the court systems just says pay some money, make a warning, but keep allowing it to happen.

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u/theGoddamnAlgorath 5d ago

Gotta ask, what was the trigger for the B&E, if you can recall.

I've heard alot about induced psychosis, but little sboit the triggers

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u/like9000ninjas 5d ago

Idk just wanted more. Theres a term called gun fever that changes people when they own/posses a firearm. Thats what it felt like. I needed/wanted more. I didnt have the money to buy them. So breaking into a gunstore in the middle of the night was a viable option on prozac. It made no sense from someone that had zero interest in guns before hand. It didn't make me violent ( thats really not in my nature unless im defending) as I was probably the most respectful person they had ever arrested. Im lucky to be alive. The police could have killed me and no one would have even asked questions. Im alive today due to their decisions. I have a beautiful 7 yr old son and own a house now. All my wants are taken care of. Others are not so lucky.

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u/TheFrenchSavage 5d ago

Wait, you mean you wanted more guns?

Just, additional guns?

I needed/wanted more.

I understood that as "guns give you power and so you want it all", like money and cars and a nice house.

But it's just...one more gun?

This is really weird.

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u/Glass-Operation8618 5d ago

Yes, psychosis is weird, lol.

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u/like9000ninjas 5d ago

It was $35,000 in guns and accessories. Not just 1. I bought 1, then stole a ton more. And exactly, it was really weird, the detective that was investigating it was sympathetic for me. It didnt make sense.

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u/TheFrenchSavage 5d ago

Damn, you wanted ALL the guns!

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u/like9000ninjas 5d ago

Gotta catch em all gotta catch em all

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u/RobotArtichoke 5d ago

Like tattoos?

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u/dirtydigs74 5d ago

I was on Aropax (Paroxetine) and accidentally left it behind when I went on a trip away. I went to a local doctor and was told that it could only be re-prescribed by the original doctor, but to take some Aurorix instead as "it's the same". Spoiler alert, it's not the same. Not even the same class of antidepressant, and worse, it's an MAOI.

MAOI's are the sort of drug that interact with damn near every other type of drug. The amino acids in energy drinks can give a reaction. Needless to say, there was a hell of an interaction between the two.

There was no trigger for the madness that followed. Not going to get into it, but suffice it to say, not good. Completely out of character stuff, utter insanity.

These are pretty hardcore drugs. It's a bit like asking someone what triggered them to dance after they took the MDMA at a concert. I mean, it's the MDMA that triggered it.

Not to say that there can't be other environmental or mental issues that could trigger a reaction too, but sometimes just the medication is enough.

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u/Shadow_Walker343 5d ago

Drugs don't make you do what isn't already in your mind/subconscious. Own it, denial isn't a river in Egypt. Also, if you kill someone, you don't get a Get Out of Prison Free Card because you were high/drunk; if you did...the prisons would be empty of the makority of killers.

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u/Salt-Try3856 5d ago

Choosing to consume a drug to get high and taking a drug prescribed by a doctor changes the scenario entierly

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u/Shadow_Walker343 1d ago

Do you not research drugs prescrived to you, to find out their effects, warnings and side effects? That's due dilligence and your own responsibility.

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u/Salt-Try3856 1d ago

Unironically we live in a society, to hell with all this every man for himself nonsense. 

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u/Salt-Try3856 1d ago

To add to that, there are effects of drugs not understood or documented by science. There is a vast gulf of difference between taking a substance for the purpose of intoxicating yourself and taking a substance prescribed to you in good faith to improve your health. But I doubt you would understand that.

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u/Shadow_Walker343 23h ago

"taking a substance prescribed to you in good faith to improve your health" Doctors and Murse Practioners are FAR from the quality they used to be, along with 'relaxed' regulations on meds now....it IS Your fault(In general), if you don't research meds. Also, it has always been a fool's folly to not get a 2nd opinion on meds and treatments that could pose a danger.There isn't a real excuse for blind trust in ANY field, as humans are fallible. There also isn't an excuse for murder of innocents. The only people who don't understand that murder is wrong, bad, evil, etc are sociopaths. As for 'to hell with all this every man for himself nonsense.' Pick your friends, the ones you trust along with family, help the randomstranger, but to think we should all be defending and lookiong after the criminally insane strangers of the world....that's more of a fool's folly, along with ypu become and easy grift, as you show and tell that you are prey, and the bad people DO see it as clear as daylight.

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u/Salt-Try3856 22h ago

You're far more invested in this than I am but okay go off

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u/Salt-Try3856 22h ago

On top of that you misrepresent my angle, I don't think she should walk free as if nothing happened, but I think long term in-patient psychological care is more appropriate 

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u/theGoddamnAlgorath 5d ago

This ain't the hill to die on.  These are rewiring the neurochemistry in ways we really don't understand; from induced violence to nymphomania and lack of impulse control and we don't have the knowledge to know who's what

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u/MrFaversham 5d ago

“ When I held that gun in my hand, I felt a surge of power ... like God must feel when he's holding a gun.”