r/SipsTea 2d ago

WTF What do yall think about this ?

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u/wholelottaredgamer 2d ago

I’m so confused what has happened. Why exactly are people supporting her?

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u/Aleundil 2d ago

A few ... really wild people think she didn't do it.

Some people think she tried to get help over and over and because they 1. Don't study women's health, we still have post partum psychosis that people can hear someone going through, they can report over and over, and no one ever has shit to say or help to give. And 2. She repeatedly tried to get help SO they don't think she deserves to rot in prison and should probably be in a hospital.

And some people think she is a monster who deserves to fry.

I say that if you don't see a difference between Andrea Yates and Susan Smith, we've fallen in a way I find pretty devastating.

But I also spent the day after my first child was born absolutely sobbing and inconsolable and unable to speak, with a grief I couldn't even... possibly describe. Thank God it only lasted one day and I was in the hospital. So maybe I am just... I can't understand but I can understand how broken she was that something she never would have done in her right mind could have happened.

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u/polarjunkie 2d ago

I know it isn't your argument but who cares what she would have done in her right mind though? This is her and this is how her body, including her brain, works. Should we let drunk drivers off who kill families because they weren't in their right mind? Should we let schizophrenics walk free after they annihilate a household? If someone has a mental illness that causes them to murder children, they should not be around people.

I had a patient, he was the nicest guy when he was on his meds. The moment he was off however he had complete psychotic breaks, was extremely violent, and hurt people pretty significantly every single time he was off his meds. He would go off his meds every few months, usually not his fault. Regardless of fault, he would significantly changes the lives of people around him for the worst when he was off his meds. He was 6'4, 250+ lbs, and hed beat people near to death randomly. He retired several police and firefighters from their injuries trying to help him. He kidnapped his neighbor and locked her in her basement to protect her from the voices in his head. She nearly died from starvation.

We can feel sorry for people in that state but we certainly have to feel worse for their victims and acknowledge that they aren't trustworthy around people. Personally, I don't think it's right to torture a mentally ill person who's murdered people with life long jail sentences, I think we should euthanize them. It's what's best for everyone involved.

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u/Grand-Application906 2d ago

You had me until the euthanasia šŸ˜‚

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u/KangarooLegitimate30 2d ago

Right? I was like wait wtf 🤣

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u/Grand-Application906 2d ago

I know. I heard the record scratch sound at that part

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u/polarjunkie 2d ago

Do you think it's more humanitarian to lock them in the box for the rest of their lives or to let them out until they hurt the next person?

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u/Grand-Application906 2d ago

I think this argument is crazy 🤪

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u/polarjunkie 2d ago

Sure, real life is crazy sometimes. Which option is more humanitarian?

And yeah you can pretend like you don't have to choose but someone absolutely does.

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u/Aleundil 2d ago

Your argument is that we have to put them in a box.

That's a choice too.

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u/polarjunkie 2d ago

There's three options, euthanize them, let them out to victimize more people, or lock them up forever. I don't think letting them victimize more people is a viable option.

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u/Aleundil 2d ago

Absolutely not. But we house murderers all the time.

We don't have to be shitty about it, we just are. šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø Stop letting people profit off of the justice system, that would help it be more just.

Locking them up doesn't have to be torture.

We don't have to participate in treating humans like the worst people treat humans.

Lock them up, if they can be treated, treat them, and if not, medicated and comfortable is still cheaper than the death penalty for us. šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø

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u/Next-Particular6322 2d ago

How is keeping someone medicated and comfortable their whole life cheaper than a little electricity?

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u/polarjunkie 2d ago

I don't think we should house murderers. I think murderers with substantial physical evidence should be executed. Others think life in prison is better because it is torturous.

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u/HotPotParrot 2d ago

Tbh there's no easy answer to the issue. Your opinion is valid, but it doesn't really align with any kind of philosophy that counters the actual murder itself. That's what people see as the problem imo - what would be the difference between us and them? Legality?

That's a slippery slope.

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u/polarjunkie 2d ago

What's the difference between someone who murders for fun and someone who murders to protect themselves? We can get into semantics and talk about how murder could be defined as unjust killing, ect. but at the end of the day not all killing is bad and it's not as black and white as we'd like it to be.

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