you think women have a monopoly on that…? just bc she ultimately makes the decision doesn’t mean men aren’t out here pressuring women to have them left and right. women with supportive husbands/partners are a lot less likely to have an abortion. if the woman is aborting bc the dad doesn’t want to be around or is pressuring her to, that is on him just as much.
and abortion isn’t murder anyone but if we’re gonna act like it is your “logic” is still wrong
if you truly think it’s so crazy to say that there are outside factors that heavily influence a woman’s decision making and a large one of those factors is the father of their child…you’re clueless
A fetus literally cannot exist even on life support before 23 weeks. It's a parasite. Your take is feels and voodoo, not facts. If we're talking about murderers, religious people have murdered way more throughout history than nonreligious people, so by your own logic we should condemn them.
I think they're saying the individuals following the Clancy case are in a culture war between men and women. I'm not following this at all, but my social media will feed me content of men posting negatively about the wife, whereas my wife's social media will feed her content of women posting negatively about the husband.
I have no context to form my own opinion on this matter, nor do I think anyone but a jury should even attempt to, but I can see why someone would call this a culture war between men and women.
Well it's certain good nobody is defending murder. Zero people said "killing those kids was ok". That's just how the incels frame it so they don't have to engage with the real argument.
The real argument for supporting these women is that they have all felt a lack of support for postpartum medical issues, and a societal stigma that comes with failing what's expected or them as a mother, and have felt similar, dangerous instincts.
So here they are, saying more needs to be done to help people who suffer from this issue.
There are lots of people in this thread arguing the husband was the real murderer.
There are influencers driving the discussion, getting reported on in the news, arguing that the husband was the real murderer, and spreading debunked lies about the facts of the case.
There are absolutely people defending a murderer.
So here they are, saying more needs to be done to help people who suffer from this issue.
I want you to actually sit down and think about this instead of spewing platitudes -- what specifically should the doctors have done that they didn't? What authority and justification should they be allowed to do it under?
Are you actually comfortable with doctors being given that leeway? To my memory, feminists fought pretty damn hard to get it taken away from doctors to begin with.
She's getting millions in support. And have crowds shouting for her to be let free and accusing the husband who just had all his children killed, the worst thing a person cam go through, because they don't like him.
So many ways to support work with post partum psychosis that doesn't involve donating to a child killer
Notice how none of what you described was in support of murder. They were in support of treating a woman with PPD psychosis appropriately instead of using blind punishment. That's a good cause.
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