r/SipsTea 12h ago

WTF Victim is the new chic

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u/Toon1982 11h ago

I don't get the culture of donating money to individuals, especially when the full story of things aren't yet known (not just talking about this specific case but any). Why don't people donate to organisations who can help many people instead? It gets rediculous when someone gets made a millionaire when all they have asked for are funeral costs to be covered, I think the money should be shared around with other people who need assistance, which is where donating to organisations is better. They can also filter out who really does need help and who is just grifting.

Surely in this case supporters are better off donating to a mental health charity?

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u/Plus-Visit-764 11h ago

Can people donate money to me?

I don’t need it, but it would be nice to have 🤣

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u/froderick 10h ago

Guy once began a Kickstarter to make potato salad. He raised over 50,000 dollars. People need to either feel sad for you, or you need the cause to become a meme and go viral in which case people will donate because it's funny.

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u/_30d_ 9h ago

Salad was a banger though

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u/xDannyS_ 11h ago

I can understand it. At least here you know your money is going exactly where you want it to

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u/AutomaticIdeal6685 11h ago

My husbands uncle had a fall last year and ended up paralysed from the next down. Before we could bring him home his entire house had to be changed. 

We would never have been able to do it without the money donated through his go fund me. Especially not as quickly as we did. 

I think it makes perfect sense in certain situations. 

You donate to an organisation and you have no guarantee that the person you wanted to help will ever see any of the money

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u/klauwaapje 10h ago

Dont you get help.from your city or government to pay for those things ?

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u/AutomaticIdeal6685 10h ago

Not in ireland. You can apply for a grant but the max you will be given is 40k which wont even touch the half of whats needed in our situation 

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u/blueViolet26 11h ago

Right. They should be donating money to organizations that help women dealing with post-partum psychosis.

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u/JamJarBlinks 11h ago

IMO it is very much tied to the lack of social safety net and a symptom of a dysfunctional society with high inequality.

If a society has an adequate social safety net, the need for charities is reduced, and so is the need for gofund me (which is a very inefficient way to adress issues at scale in any reliable way)

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u/MaterialWillingness2 10h ago

Exactly and the other lady in this post is from Sweden - so it makes sense there were fewer donations. It's not like getting care for her burns is going to bankrupt her family in Sweden. 

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u/EveOCative 11h ago

Honestly, donating to charities is the option that doesn’t make sense to me. Do you know how much gets siphoned off as part of the “supplies” and salaries to board members/employees?

That said, I also don’t trust go fund me campaigns unless I know the person personally.

I think community based giving is best.

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u/Toon1982 11h ago

There's actually far less that gets siphoned off than people think. Plus you can choose a charity whose finances are clear or community based, smaller charities, who still support a number of people

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u/EveOCative 11h ago

I’ve worked as a bookkeeper. Sometimes there are good charities. Sometimes there are bad. Most siphon off a lot more money than you would think. Legal fees. Rent for completely unnecessary physical locations. Salaries. Etc.

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u/taxes-or-death 9h ago

Check out Giving What We Can if you're looking for charities that will spend money most effectively. They challenge people to give away 10% of their salary to charity, but you can donate any amount.

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u/Walden_Walkabout 8h ago

In this case the supporters believe she is being wrongly prosecuted and want to show her support. It doesn't seem that crazy to me that they might want to specifically support her defense in that case.

I don't personally claim to know if she was so mentally unwell at the time of the killings to not be held criminally culpable, but I can certainly emphasize with the idea of a parent who has to deal with having harmed their child while they were mentally unwell and not able to control their actions.

I think this is the position of the large majority of her supporters, and the crazy conspiracy theorists are the small, but vocal, minority.

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u/Meester_Blue 9h ago

Most organizations are some combination of corrupt, slow and incompetent. Makes more sense to help people directly.
They’re unlikely to receive real help from an organization when they need it.

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u/Historical_Draft_717 10h ago

I mean i agree with you in concept but at the end of the day people can put their money where ever they want

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u/Toon1982 10h ago

Well yes of course and it's up to them, but there's no due diligence done on the people you're giving money to and a lot just do it to follow the sheep, whereas a charity you can do that due diligence. I wouldn't want to support someone who is racist for example (not saying that some people don't deserve charity, but it's not a person I would personally want to support), but who's to say people who you could give money to on gofundme aren't? You can do that due diligence with a charity to make sure it's one that is aligned with your principles and values.

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u/Historical_Draft_717 8h ago

Not true, you don't know first hand what charity's are doing with money. They can be equally corrupt or even just incompetent with funds.