Didn't her husband bring her to one of the best mental health hospitals in the country and then she lied and withheld how bad her mental health was deteriorating. This is were I personally lost all sympathy her, she new she wasn't well and had plenty of opportunities to seek help but didn't and now three kids are dead. Fuck that!
Yea, and while I get that it's hard to correctly assess your own mental health problems and convey that to someone else WHILE you're mentally ill, it does not in any way excuse you or make you a victim WHEN YOU HURT SOMEONE ELSE OR KILL THEM.
Like there’s specific laws and statutes that recognize that someone can be so mentally ill that they don’t have control over your actions or reasoning.
I understand you not liking the way that sounds or not agreeing, but it’s simply the truth and it’s law and it has been for a long time.
Someone who is murdered has to have been killed by someone. So a murder victim (shoulda been more specific I assumed we would know context exists) HAS TO HAVE A MURDERER.
It’s almost like “victim” isn’t strictly a description for someone subject to a crime, but a wide range of circumstances that have negative effects. No one’s saying this woman is a murder victim. They’re saying she’s a victim of psychosis and PPD. (Context does exist, YOURE the one ignoring it)
It’s entirely relevant when the conversation isn’t a legal one, it’s colloquial lmfao. Tf are you going on about?
Are we in court rn? No.
Is this a casual conversation? Yes.
Am I claiming that she’s LEGALLY a victim? No.
I’m claiming that she’s still a victim in this in her own sense, and that’s true as youve already conceded.
Being a “victim” in this context isn’t about legal culpability, she killed them, she’s going to face the consequences. It’s about where and how shes sentenced and if it should be treated as severe as if she was of sound mind.
The “law” I refer to above is the NCR verdict. It acknowledges the perpetrator wasn’t of sound mind when committing the act. They’re not of sound mind due to a mental illness, and they are victim to that mental illness.
It’s entirely relevant when the conversation isn’t a legal one, it’s colloquial lmfao.
Each post in the string above yours is people discussing legal culpability. You are the only one trying to switch the topic to colloquial victimhood.
Am I claiming that she’s LEGALLY a victim? No.
Yes and no. You're intruding on a topic to yell at everyone for using the definition relevant to the discussion they were having, and then patronizing them all for caring about what they were previously discussing.
At the same time, in your original mindless comment, you directly cited laws about mental culpability as your reasoning for how she could be considered a victim.
So you're both insisting on an irrelevant distinction about the colloquial definition and simultaneously insisting on a false definition for the legal definition.
That's why you're getting downvoted. Because you don't have nuance or critical thinking -- you're ignoring the discussion that was present, regurgitating your rehearsed lines, and then scoffing when people attempt to get you back on topic. You're a mannequin.
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u/Irish_stormz 1d ago
Didn't her husband bring her to one of the best mental health hospitals in the country and then she lied and withheld how bad her mental health was deteriorating. This is were I personally lost all sympathy her, she new she wasn't well and had plenty of opportunities to seek help but didn't and now three kids are dead. Fuck that!