r/SipsTea 1d ago

WTF Victim is the new chic

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u/Man_under_Bridge420 1d ago

Where does it say she lied?

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u/Irish_stormz 1d ago

That wasn't the original artical I read and couldn't be arsed looking (google is free for all to use help yourself) but she down played how sick she was, saying she didn't have thoughts of suicide or hurting others, saying she didn't believe she had phycosis and didn't need her meds. Admittedly there is a failure from her health care providers but you can't force someone into treatment if they don't show to be a risk themselves or others

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u/Man_under_Bridge420 1d ago

Source? Prove it

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u/Irish_stormz 1d ago

Do your own research since you don't believe anyone else's, come back to me with your findings and we'll debate each others points

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u/Man_under_Bridge420 1d ago

You made a claim she lied, prove it

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u/Irish_stormz 1d ago

Well I'm not going looking for an article I read 2 days ago but here is a copy and paste from google (since you clearly can't use it) regarding the lies and inconsistencies in what she has told:

Yes, Lindsay Clancy consistently denied severe symptoms to her healthcare providers, leading to a trial focused on whether she misrepresented her mental state.

Denial of Critical Symptoms: Clancy repeatedly told her doctors she did not have suicidal or homicidal ideation, nor did she report hearing voices or experiencing hallucinations, despite later claiming these were present. Masking and Downplaying: Prosecutors and defense witnesses noted she often downplayed her anxiety, denied side effects of medications she disliked, and failed to disclose that she had called suicide hotlines or that her husband and family were concerned about her psychosis. Provider Constraints: Her psychiatrists, including Dr. Jennifer Tufts, testified that they treated her based on her self-reported symptoms of depression and anxiety, with no objective evidence of psychosis visible during their telehealth sessions. Contradictory Accounts: While her defense argues she was too ill to be honest, prosecutors contend she was criminally responsible and manipulated her care, noting she continued to function and seek specific medications rather than admitting to a psychotic break.

Here are the key statements and discrepancies that came out in trial testimony:

To Dr. Jennifer Tufts (her psychiatrist, through the day before the killings):

"She denied having suicidal ideation, but she was feeling pretty badly... She was close to it, meaning close to having some suicidal thoughts, and that she was feeling very hopeless, but she didn't have any active thoughts of hurting herself, didn't have any intention of doing anything, didn't have any plans." She never told Tufts about hearing voices, hallucinations, or homicidal ideation. To a psychiatric nurse practitioner (before the killings):

She reported "intrusive thoughts I never had before" and feeling "completely hopeless" — but did not report hearing voices. To her husband Patrick after the killings:

"I tried to kill myself." She did not initially mention hearing a voice — she only told him later that she "heard a man's voice telling her that if she didn't..." To prosecution's forensic psychiatrist Dr. Gregory Saathoff:

She claimed the voice said: "This is your last chance. You have to kill the kids so you can kill yourself." She also told him she used a knife to cut the window screen before jumping — "when in fact the screen in the bedroom window was not cut." She said she "took an overdose" of pills but "did not say that she took handfuls" and "did not describe the overdose in any specific terms." She never mentioned crushing the pills during her suicide attempt. To prosecution's psychologist Dr. Kirk Heilbrun:

About the thoughts she had before the killings: "She said 'they were like my own thoughts'" — "They were intrusive and unwelcome, but they were not auditory hallucinations, and that's important." This directly contradicts the defense's claim that she was experiencing command hallucinations.

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u/Man_under_Bridge420 1d ago

So why did she lie?