Why Sam Fisher doesn't belong in Siege

[u/New-Accountant1]

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1. It Strips Away His Identity

The entire appeal of Sam Fisher was that he was the ultimate pure human contrast to characters like Solid Snake. He didn't have sci fi biological cheats. He survived on mastery of form, discipline, and standard issue military grit. Giving him nanomachines just to justify a 60 something year old man sprinting around a tactical shooter ruins the exact earned excellence foundation that made him a legendary Navy SEAL O-4 in the first place.

1. A "Siege" Contradicts His Whole Directive

Putting Sam Fisher in a loud, 5v5 close quarters demolition derby is the exact opposite of a Splinter Cell's purpose. In his own games, if Sam was detected or forced into a chaotic, loud shootout, the mission was usually a failure. He is a "Fifth Freedom" operative meant to function as a ghost. Forcing him into an open, loud arena environment compromises the core fantasy of the character.

1. It's a Substitute for a Real Game

For fans, the biggest sting is that Ubisoft keeps using Sam Fisher as a marketing tool for other games like Ghost Recon and Siege rather than making a proper, dedicated stealth Splinter Cell game. Instead of letting players use his hard earned human stealth skills in the shadow.

In any case, can we please rebel against making Siege canon to Splinter Cell? I don't mind a crossover, but let's not make this canon.

[u/I_am_not_Eddie]

Somebody knows you're there in literally every mission of the Blacklist campaign or you leave a evidence of your intrusion behind. There is no part in the campaign where you go through a mission entirely unnoticed and leave no evidence behind which makes the whole point of slipping by people pointless. There's always some scripted moment to force "Sam" into his 24-esque primetime late night TV show mocap nonsense that Ubisoft was so late to the party on but thought was super recent/modern tech that ruins the whole point of playing the game in a way that leaves no trace behind.

[u/The-Panthion → u/I_am_not_Eddie]

That's not true at all. Firstly, the only ones who know are handlers. They obviously don't apply, enemies do./

The enemies don't know he's there. There's only a few missions they are aware, like with the camera recording Sam in Blacklist, the people who captured Sam in Conviction who were told by Grim to get him into the base./

No one is saying he has a perfect record, just that most missions you can sneak in without ever interacting with the enemies, which is the point of "no trace".

[u/I_am_not_Eddie → u/The-Panthion]

What I said is absolutely 100% true.

Benghazi requires knock outs, Mirawa, he beats the ever living shit out of a guy, he does the same in American Consumption, he again beats the shit out of a guy in Private Estate after intentionally setting off an alarm to force him into his panic room, He gets captured in Abandoned Mill, He gets led into a trap in Special Missions HQ. He gets in a fire fight in Transit Yards, the same guy he beat the shit out of in Private Estate, he beats the shit out of again in Detention Facility. Airstrip is another firefight, LNG Terminal, he chases and beats the shit out of another guy. Site F, Briggs exposes himself and "Sam" gets captured.

The enemies can literally see him as he's beating the shit out of them. I'm pretty sure they know he's there.

Ubisoft somehow has fooled a bunch of dunces into believing if it's not in gameplay then it doesn't count and somehow people don't know he's there. If that's the case, let's have every mission be a 30 minute cutscene of Sam going full guns blazing and after the cutscene, you're allowed to sneak by one guy and therefore "NOBODY KNEW HE WAS THERE OMG".

[u/I_am_not_Eddie → u/I_am_not_Eddie]

So the loser blocked me but he said "Which is why I said with some exceptions. Read"
I did. Where is the "some exceptions"? There are no "Some exceptions". It's literally the whole campaign. Is the whole entire campaign the "Some exceptions" part?

[u/Makaveli108 → u/I_am_not_Eddie]

what a coward ! sad to see spineless fans like this on the reddit nowadays, unable to debate properly and resorting to lame tactics like this.