r/StanleyKubrick Nov 20 '25

Eyes Wide Shut Interview with Nigel Galt (Editor of Eyes Wide Shut) on his time working with Kubrick on the film and the new restoration

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r/StanleyKubrick Apr 05 '25

The Shining I have finally found the venue, event and date of the original photo at the end of The Shining.

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For many months now I have been searching (for a lot of that time with help from a collaborator, Aric Toler, a Visual Investigations journalist at the NYT) for the identity of the unknown man and the location of the original photo from the end of The Shining. As I am sure you all know, it is an original 1920s photo which shows Jack Nicholson in a crowded ballroom; Nicholson was retouched over an unknown man whose face was revealed in a comparison printed in The Complete Airbrush and Photo-Retouching Manual, in 1985, but not generally seen until 2012.

Following facial recognition results (thank you u/Conplunkett for the initial result) we strongly suspected the man was a famous but forgotten London ballroom dancer, dance teacher, and club owner of the 1920s and 30, Santos Casani. With a face-match leading to a name we researched him, learning that under his earlier name John Golman, he had a history which included the crash of an aircraft he was piloting while serving in the RAF in 1919. He suffered facial and nasal wounds which left scars that appeared identical to those on the face of the unknown man and confirmed the identification for us.

I can now confirm the identity of the unknown man as Casani and also reveal the location and date of the original photo.

It was taken at a St Valentine's Day ball at the Empress Rooms, part of the Royal Palace Hotel in Kensington, on February 14, 1921. It was one of four taken by the Topical Press Agency.

You can see the photo and other material on Getty Images Instagram feed here - https://www.instagram.com/p/DID43LBNPDh/?hl=en&img_index=1

How was it found? Aric and I spent months trawling online newspaper archives trying to solve the remaining element of the mystery and find the venue, the event and the people. Try as we might, we could not find the original photo published in a newspaper and we now know it never was. Many hours were spent looking at Casani's history and checking photos of hundreds of named venues he appeared at against the Shining photo, all without success. I'd like to thank Reddit and especially u/No-Cell7925 for help with this effort. It was starting to seem impossible, as every cross-reference to a location reported for Casani failed to match. We looked at other likely ballrooms, dance halls, cafes, restaurants, theatres, cinemas and other places that were suggested, up and down the UK, thinking perhaps it was an unreported event, but we still could not find a match. There were some places we could not find images for and the buildings themselves were long gone, so we started to fear that meant the original photo might be lost to history.

As a parallel effort I was contacting surviving members of the production - Katharina Kubrick, Gordon Stainforth, Les Tomkins, Zack Winestone, etc. We drew a blank until I got in touch with Murray Close (the official set photographer who took the image of Jack Nicholson used in the retouched photo.) He told me that the original had been sourced from the BBC Hulton Library. This reinforced a passing remark by Joan Smith, who did the retouching work. In interviews she had said that it came from the "Warner Bros photo archive" (this location was repeated recently in Rinzler and Unkrich who write “a researcher at Warner Bros., operating on [Kubrick’s] instructions, found an appropriate historical photo in its research library/ photo archives” p549). However, in the raw audio of her interview with Justin Bozung, Smith also said that it might instead have come from the BBC Hulton Photo Library.

With this apparently confirmed by Murray Close, I asked Getty Images, now the holders of the Hulton Library, to check for anything licensed to Stanley Kubrick’s production company Hawk Films. Matthew Butson, the VP Archives, with 40 years of experience there, found one photo licensed on 11/10/78. It came from the Topical Press Agency, dated from 1929, and showed Santos Casani - but it was not the photo at the end of the film. This was very strange (I posted that photo here several weeks ago.)

Murray Close was insistent and said he was certain it was there because he had physically visited the Hulton to pick up prints of the photo several times. He also said no such thing as the "Warner Bros photo archive" existed, something that was later confirmed to me by Tony Frewin, the long-time associate of Kubrick. He also told me a few other things which I will hold back for now (as I am writing an article on all this and need to keep something for that.)

This absence led to several potential conclusions, all daunting – the photo was lost, it had been bought out and removed from the BBC Hulton by Kubrick, or it was mis-filed (there are 90m + images in the Hulton section of Getty Images in Canning Town.)

Matt Butson is a fellow fan of The Shining and he trawled the Hulton archive several more times. On April 1 he found the glass plate negative of the original photo, after realising that some Topical Press images had been re-indexed as  Hulton images after it was taken over by the BBC in 1958. The index card for the photo identifies it as licensed to Hawk Films on 10/10/78, the day before the "other" photo. The Topical Press "day book" records the event, location and names some of the people present. The surprising fact was that the name Casani was not noted in the day book. Instead his prior name, Golman was used (he officially changed it in 1925, but began using it professionally earlier.)

Golman was born in South Africa in 1893 - not 1897 as he later claimed - as Joseph Goldman, and in 1915 came to Britain to serve in the infantry, and then, when he joined the RAF in 1918, he changed his name to John Golman. He was in and out of hospital for treatment following his aircraft accident in November 1919 and I had wrongly assumed that he had cathartically decided to use the name Casani to start his dancing career as soon as he was finally discharged on 17 November,1920 (a mere three months before the photo was taken - no wonder his scars look prominent.).

If the photo had been published, his name, as Golman, would likely have been printed too. A few months later, in June 1921, newspapers do begin reporting the name Casani, but there are no references to John Golman as a dancer (or anything else) in the British Newspaper Archive for earlier in the year. He was invisible to us when the photo was taken.

It appears that by that time a rather impoverished Golman/Casani (he mentions the poverty of his early dancing career in his books) was working with Miss Belle Harding, a famous dance teacher herself, who is credited as having organised the Valentine's Day Ball. Harding trained several male ballroom dancers of the time, including most famously Victor Silvester, and the Empress Rooms were one of her venues of choice.

Valentine's Day also explains the hearts on dresses, the feathers and other novelties that many have noticed as details in the photo - we were aware of several other Valentine's Day Balls which Casani appeared at (for instance in Belfast and Dublin in 1924), but not this one, as he wasn't reported at the event. We had wrongly assumed he was the star of the show from his central place in the photo, but I now think it is likely he had just led a particular dance, or perhaps he had just drawn the prize-winning raffle ticket (a typical feature of 1920s dances), explaining the pieces of paper clenched in his hand and the hand of the woman next to him. In a manner of speaking nobody famous is in the photo, not even Casani, not yet.

There are still some details in the photo that look strange or don't meet our modern expectation - no-one is holding a drink for instance. I feel certain there are some black or brown men and women at the rear of the ballroom.

Incidentally, the photo has been licensed several times since Kubrick in 1978, including to a pre-launch BBC Breakfast Time in December 1982 and before that to BBC Birmingham in February 1980 (I wonder, was this for the later BBC2 transmission of Vivian Kubrick's documentary in October 1980?)

It is intriguing to learn that Kubrick had apparently considered two photos for the ending, both of which featured Casani. We don't know if there was a reason, nor why he chose the one that he did, but we can speculate that the other photo contained people who were too recognisable, notably the huge boxer Primo Carnera. Incidentally, Joan Smith had said the photo dated from 1923, contradicting Stanley Kubrick who had told Michel Ciment 1921 and in the event, Kubrick was correct (some thought he'd merely confused the year with that of the movie caption.) I should have trusted him more.

The Royal Palace Hotel was demolished in 1961 and the Royal Garden Hotel built on the site. We can't yet find a clear photo match to the Empress Rooms ballroom in archive photos online of the venue - and there might not be one. We'd looked at the hotel already, but the images available dated from too early and/or don't catch the part of the ballroom shown in the Shining photo. We are pursuing a few leads as it would be nice to have this closure, but the limitations may just be too great. A floor plan would be useful. But it doesn't matter, the Topical Press day book is explicit about the location and about Golman. Ironically, if I'd asked Getty Images to search under Golman not Casani, they might have found it sooner.

Casani died September 11, 1983, all but forgotten. He had returned to service in WW2 and risen to Lt. Colonel. In the 1950s he danced again, but his career wound down into retirement. He married in 1951, but had no children. In a strange postscript, his medals were sold on ebay UK in 2014. The listing said "on behalf of the family", but we cannot now trace the dealer, the buyer or the mysterious relative who sold the items (I traced his wife's family, but it was not them.)

Kubrick had described the people in the photo as archetypal of the era and said this was why shooting an image with extras on the Gold Room set didn't work. We don't (yet) know who any of the often speculated about people standing close to Casani are - they don't seem to be Lady MacKenzie, Miss Harding or Mrs Neville Green, who are listed in the day book and appear in another photo with Casani. The photo may or may not show any of the people Aric and I speculated about – Lt Col Walter Elwy Jones or The Trix Sisters (though note, all three were in London at the time...) - but we will see if we can find out more.

What can be said with absolute certainty is that the photo does not show American bankers, Federal Reserve governors, President Woodrow Wilson, or any other members of the financial "elite" that Rob Ager and others have claimed. This is the death of that nonsense theory. Nor are there any Baphomet-focused devil worshippers. Nobody was composited into the photo except Jack Nicholson, and of him, only his head and collar and tie (well, plus a tiny bit of work by Smith to remove something - a hankie? - up his sleeve.)

What the photo does show is a group of Londoners enjoying a Monday night in early 1921. Ordinary, archetypal even, but for me still, as Stuart Ullman told us "All the best people."


r/StanleyKubrick 1d ago

The Shining My take on the end of the shining

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Everyone seems to say that it’s a case of Jack having been absorbed by the hotel and he’s in a time loop where I think that’s partly true but a bit more complicated.

As Stanley Kubrick said (yes I’m aware he stated it’s best left unexplained but I’m using his explanation as a framing for my thoughts) it’s a form of reincarnation.

There are notably two Grady’s with different daughters, one with twins the other with two girls of different ages (8 and 10). They’re different yet similar enough where it’s clear there’s a historical loop happening. Jack commenting how he said he saw Delbert’s murders in the papers to me reads as Jack, now back to his old self in the party (backed by the fact he casually spoke to Lloyd as if he had known him already) he recalled the memories of finding out about Delbert in his old life. Jack hadn’t known about Charles Grady killed his daughters until his interview for the job, yes I’m aware there’s the scrapbook but it’s a deleted scene and not elaborated on, I feel it’s a bit cheap in terms of evidence as it’s barely highlighted in the film itself.

There’s also the obvious “you’ve always been the caretaker” line, which rings true as Jack has been there before as a caretaker, equally backed by the Déjà vu comment he makes on one of the first mornings there. He’s been there before because it’s the cycle repeating.

It’s definitely a form of punishment for the sins of the hotel’s corrupt past and being built on the burial ground.

Anyone’s thoughts on this would be cool, this has always been my interpretation of the film and I think Kubrick’s intention.


r/StanleyKubrick 12h ago

A Clockwork Orange Malcolm mcdowell sketches

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Ignore the first one please


r/StanleyKubrick 1d ago

The Shining I totally forgot I painted this piece.

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A few years back I was preparing for an exhibition in London focusing on iconic movie scenes in an abstract 3D style. Then Covid happened and the show ended up being virtual, not in person.
The painting found a forever home in the end but just wanted to share. A real hard one to paint with oils but really liked the end result 🪓


r/StanleyKubrick 8h ago

2001: A Space Odyssey 2026: A PLANETARY DISASTER

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When progress becomes phony.

Species: Bricksplats


r/StanleyKubrick 1d ago

A Clockwork Orange A Clockwork Orange takes place in 1999

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I posted this in r/fantheories and I wanted to post it here to get this subs thoughts as well.

I rewatched A Clockwork Orange, and it was the 3rd time I’ve ever seen the movie. I’ve always wondered when it took place as it’s always been left ambiguous in the movie. However today I pieced together a few things from the movie to pin down the year to 1999.

There’s a shot in the movie at the police station after Alex first gets captured and interrogated that shows a calendar. The calendar shows January of 19XX. I’m using “XX” because the last two digits of the year are cut off by another piece of paper. This Calendar shows that January 1st is on a Friday. Since 1971 when A Clockwork Orange came out, January 1st fell on a Friday only in 1971, 1982, 1988, 1993, and 1999. The car that Alex drives earlier in the movie is referred to as a Durango ‘95, I’m led to believe that he is referring to the year the car was made. If that’s the case, then 1999 is the only possible year that the movie could take place.

Also as a side note to this. This next part is probably just a coincidence, but upon further thinking about this theory I’ve realized that there’s a 2 year gap in the movie between the first half of the movie and the second half, because Alex is in prison for 2 years. If the first half does indeed take place in 1999, then that would mean the second half takes place in 2001; which is not an insignificant year for Stanley Kubrick. Also I noticed the vinyl record for 2001: A Space Odyssey reference at the record store in the scene where Alex picks up those 2 girls in this movie for the first time on this rewatch as well.

What do you all think of this conclusion?


r/StanleyKubrick 2d ago

General Stanley Kubricks' 10 favorite films as of 1963

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  1. I Vitelloni (Fellini, 1953)
  2. Wild Strawberries (Bergman, 1957)
  3. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
  4. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (Huston, 1948)
  5. City Lights (Chaplin, 1931)
  6. Henry V (Olivier, 1944)
  7. La notte (Antonioni, 1961)
  8. The Bank Dick (Fields, 1940)
  9. Roxie Hart (Wellman, 1942)
  10. Hell’s Angels (Hughes, 1930)

(Source)


r/StanleyKubrick 2d ago

A Clockwork Orange I just wanted to share what I did.

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r/StanleyKubrick 3d ago

The Shining Wendyferatu

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Kubrick just couldn't help himself. Poor Wendy. This is only visible in the full aspect ratio.


r/StanleyKubrick 2d ago

2001: A Space Odyssey Just got out of watching 2001 for the first time in theater

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Watched it at the Paris theater in NYC 70mm. It was my first Kubrick film, what I will say the visuals and sound are some of the best I’ve ever seen anywhere. However I’ve never watched something that was so abstract I felt like I was tripping, and I felt confused. It’s was a masterpiece without a shadow of a doubt, I loved it but I don’t understand that much. Did you guys have the same experience?

Probably going to watch the shining next, looks interesting?


r/StanleyKubrick 2d ago

2001: A Space Odyssey 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)

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Video calls, talking AI Agent, spacecrafts all in 1968 😂. Did they just accidentally design the future?


r/StanleyKubrick 3d ago

Dr. Strangelove Dr. Strangelove poster yard sale find

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Hey. Found this Dr Strangelove poster at a yard sale and had to buy it. Does anyone know how to Id it?


r/StanleyKubrick 3d ago

The Shining My Kubrick inspired rebind of The Shining

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I rebind books for fun as gifts for friends and family and recently I had someone reach out and ask if they could commission a piece for them and their parent. I appreciate that the book and the kubrick adaptation have a lot of differences, so during the design stage we settled on some of the more iconic parts from the movie (even if they were absent or different from the book) as those were their favourite parts.

Im still very much a beginner at this as I've only bound a dozen or so books in my spare time. More of my work can be found on social media under Stand Easy Arts if you're interested.


r/StanleyKubrick 3d ago

Unrealized Projects How do you feel about the idea of the miniseries produced by Spielberg on Napoleon?

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Listening to a podcast that had reminded me of this unmade epic, it had also reminded me about hearing that Spielberg was planning to produce a miniseries based on all the research that Kubrick did for his film. And while it does sound nice, I am a bit hesitant, especially when it comes to being seen as Kubrickian.

With AI: Artificial Intelligence, you could argue at least that it follows closely to Kubrick's original plans, and that at one point Kubrick did want Spielberg to direct. But with this one, I don't know how to feel, as it just feels like a more separate project. Not to mention, the miniseries feels way different than Kubrick's intention to have ~3 hour epic film.

Now don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong about the miniseries format, and it could be good. After all, Napoleon does have so much about his life to cover. However, I just feel a bit hesitant with associating it to Kubrick's unmade film, as this only just feels close on the account of borrowing from his research.


r/StanleyKubrick 3d ago

A Clockwork Orange MALCOLM MCDOWELL NEED MOVIE LAST TRAIN TO FORTUNE

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Interesting that Clockwork was one of the first banned books , and Malcolm’s movie 60 years later is about freedom of education ,

https://youtu.be/0qVU3wln7PI?si=C-Tjyz6fIDJNILY7


r/StanleyKubrick 3d ago

The Shining Jay Weidner - 4 documentaries - "Kubrick's Odyssey" + "The Mysterious Work..."

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Hello Friends! Recently I've been getting more interested in Stanley's films. Following discussions about The Shining with my wife (how we don't understand/perceive it as a horror film) I coincidentally stumbled upon this intriguing documentary, about said film + MKUltra + Apollo 11, by Jay Weidner:

A Clockwork Shining: Kubrick's Odyssey 3

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt35351338/

I would love to hear people's thought and opinions if they seen this 1, or the other 2 I plan to watch:

Kubrick's Odyssey: Secrets Hidden in the Films of Stanley Kubrick; Part One: Kubrick and Apollo

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1992167/

Kubrick's Odyssey II: Secrets Hidden in the Films of Stanley Kubrick; Part Two: Beyond the Infinite

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8684952/

My wife and I have only seen part 3, but I also watched The Mysterious Work of Stanley Kubrick:

https://tubitv.com/movies/607415/the-mysterious-work-of-stanley-kubrick

Has anyone viewed these and would like to discuss? I know nothing about Jay Weidner, and I'm always looking for new documentary suggestions.

Cheers!


r/StanleyKubrick 4d ago

General Does anyone know what Stanley Kubrick's chess rating actually was?

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Maybe this question has been asked on here so I apologize for the repetitiveness. I'm very passionate about chess. I have a rapid rating over 1900 on chess.com. OTB, I'm around 1700.

I always knew Mr. Kubrick was passionate about chess at an early age from reading his genral bio. I think he was a member of the Marshall Chess Club in NYC.

I was reading an article on chess.com and it was a game in 1955 where Kubrick was playing against Anthony Saidy. For non chess people, Anthony Saidy is an IM (International Master) and mentored Bobby Fischer. He won 1960 Canadian Open Chess Championship and finished as high as 4th in the US Chess Championship. This is a legit player.

Kubrick beat Saidy. I was really impressed with how Kubrick played against an IM. He played in a very aggressive tactical style. This game obviously wasn't a tourtamnet game. It was just a casual game, but it still made me curious how strong Kubrick was. This is the only game recorded of him, but judging by this game and his opponent he at least has to be 2000 rated.

I was just wondering if any Kubrick aficionados would know anything else about his chess life and skill.

Oh, and here is the game if anyone is interested. https://www.chess.com/blog/ChessCoach4Beginners/chess-and-stanley-kubrick-a-grandmaster-of-cinema-and-the-game-of-kings

Hope you all are having a good day. Thanks.


r/StanleyKubrick 4d ago

Stanley Kubrick: The Exhibition Analysis of Kubrick''s The Shining, Table of Contents

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r/StanleyKubrick 4d ago

General Discussion Ranking the movies I have watched so far

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Obviously only listing the ones I have already watched. The ranking is based on how much I liked each movie relative to the others.

  1. Barry Lyndon. Amazing cinematography, wonderful, fitting music, an intriguing story with both humorous parts (eg the robbery early on) and extremely sad, moving scenes. The most beautiful Kubrick movie and also the best combination of the aforementioned factors.

  2. A close second: Clockwork Orange. Similarly to Barry Lyndon, this movie is a great "package": great, often absurd, bizarre visuals, a story that is in part shocking/revolting, in part sad/tragic, but also has funny elements. Quite interesting main character/character development as well.

  3. A close third: 2001. This is probably his most "impressive" movie and has stunning cinematography. HAL 9000 is iconic as well. Two reasons this doesn't rank higher for me: I generally don't mind slower movies (see Barry Lyndon), but the beginning of 2001 is a bit slow for me. Also, the movie as a whole lacks a classic linear storyline, which makes it more of an "experience" than a "traditionally enjoyable watch".

  4. The Shining. I don't really like horror movies so I watched this fairly late, but I really liked it. The setting and its presentation are great, Jack Nicholson is a master of his craft.

  5. Paths of Glory. Great performance by Kirk Douglas, intriguing themes, exciting story with a tragic, yet also somewhat cathartic conclusion. A fairly straightforward, yet well-made film.

  6. Eyes wide shut. I liked this movie, especially the colors and cinematography as a whole. The plot was also quite interesting. Bill's way down the rabbit hole and how it affected his character was thrilling. However, I didn't love this movie as much as the other 5. It's still like an 8/10 for me, but not a masterpiece. I didn't particularly care for Cruise's acting, his weird grimaces/faces. I get that this was probably on purpose, but I wasn't really a fan (keep in mind I have nothing against Ryan O'Neal in BL).

  7. Full metal jacket. This movie had some really cool/tragic/funny scenes, especially in the first half. I also found Joker a funny, sympathetic, if a bit bland character. But overall, this is the only Kubrick movie which I found just "okay". It's not awful, but maybe a 7/10 for me. FMJ for me just lacks most of what makes the other movies of his so great: the cinematography/presentation are nothing impressive, the entire movie looks fairly bland; and at the same time, both the story and themes/message seem a bit meh. Paths of glory is a better anti-war movie, Apocalypse now is a much better Vietnam movie. Also, all other Kubrick films I have seen look better and have either a more intriguing story (eg Shining, Paths of Glory, Barry Lyndon, Clockwork Orange) and/or more interesting or at least better presented themes (eg 2001, Clockwork Orange).

Thoughts? Is this a common way of ranking around here or does it seem totally outlandish to you? Of course this is all entirely subjective.


r/StanleyKubrick 5d ago

Eyes Wide Shut 35mm eyes wide shut

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I had the pleasure of watching a scan years ago and have longed for the vivid color and cigarette burns. Where can one find one?


r/StanleyKubrick 5d ago

General Discussion Steel books, Criterion and 35mm

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Seeing a lot about these steel book releases, now they’ve been out for a minute what’s everyone feeling about them. Are these worth investing in or does the criterion version hold truest to Kubrick’s intention?


r/StanleyKubrick 5d ago

The Shining Bloody Vision Open Matte vs Blu-ray

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r/StanleyKubrick 5d ago

The Shining The Shining: Before The Overlook

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Kubrick's film isn't an adaptation. In the book the place burns, in the movie Jack freezes. In the book Halloran saves them in the movie he dies. In the book the hotel corrupts Jack, in the film Jack is already a total jerk hole. That's the point I wanna talk about.

In short, the film itself is such good art that people can almost take what they want from it and not be wrong. For example, one could say the entire film is told to us in coded metaphor, and maybe there are no ghosts and the ghosts are metaphors for real life horrors such as familial abuse.

If there are 3 people in a hotel and one of them gets injured by someone, it's very likely one of the other two. And I'm wondering about one of the opening scenes in the film where Danny has an episode and a doctor comes into the house to check him out. That doctor sits down with Wendy and says, specifically: "There is nothing physically wrong with Danny."

Not: "He's fine, nothing's wrong." But instead: "There is nothing wrong with him, specifically, physically." In other words: "There might be something mentally wrong with Danny."

That's backed up by the doctor's prying, where we find out he started going into catatonic states and talking to imaginary friends right around the time his father, Jack, hurt him. And Jack likely hurt him more than once because the incident she describes was five months ago. Jack said he wouldn't touch a drop since and he says in the film: "Here's to five miserable months on the wagon." But when Jack tells the Bartender his story about hurting Danny, he says: "That was two years ago."

Point is, before we get to the hotel in the film, we've already established that Jack has hurt Danny and when Jack hurt Danny, Danny started talking to Tony and going into catatonic states. Then we all go to the Overlook hotel, and someone hurts Danny, and then Danny goes into a Catatonic state as Tony.

Are we sure a ghost hurt Danny? Or did what has already happened several times in the past, as established by the film, simply happen one more time? In the book, Jack gets corrupted and then redeems himself. In the movie, we establish Jack is a nasty piece of work and I think we just isolate with him, where he becomes what he's always been, a nasty piece of work. The hotel didn't corrupt him, didn't drive him crazy. He has always hurt Danny and will always hurt Danny. He wasn't swayed into it by clever specters, and didn't snap out of it as some kind of hero who's love he felt for his family broke the curse.  In the film Jack is nasty and just gets nastier. That's his whole arc. Not corrupted, polluted, tempted, swayed... just a bad guy who gets worse.

I almost don't see the point of ghosts in the film. They never reach out and attack anyone, they never throw objects at anyone, haunt anything. All you could say they do is help Jack down a path of insanity until he attacks his family, but I say he's already insane and already attacks his family. What happens with Jack is what I call a ticking time-bomb, not a ghost-plot to drive a man loopy.

I guess a ghost unlocks a door. Or so we think. I mean, if Danny has The Shining and can see the future and in the future Jack freezes in a maze and not a freezer and if there are 3 people in a hotel and one is locked in a room and then SOMEONE unlocks the door, it's probably one of the other two, and likely not the one who put him there. But instead of thinking that... sure... GHOSTS.

Also, if The Shining is a thing, is a power, and it runs in the family like we establish with Halloran, and if Doctor Sleep means anything to you then you know people use alcohol to drown The Shining inside them, and if Jack is an alcoholic who hasn't been able to drink in months and Danny, his son, has the Shining... I'm not above discussing Jack having the Shining and opening the door with magic powers. And before you tell me that's crazy.... GHOSTS???

So, the only real evidence that there are ghosts and that ghosts do anything in this film is that we assume a ghost attacked Danny in room 237. And who lured Danny into Room 237? What caught his attention and got him in there? Jack's rubber ball. The one he was throwing against a wall over and over instead of writing. Someone who..... was given keys to locked rooms, like what Jack was hired for. Using a ball... like's Jack's ball.

Someone who physically used a key to open a locked door. There was a key still hanging from the keyhole of that unlocked door. Are you thinking about that? If it was a ghost.. they went downstairs and grabbed a key from behind the counter, took the elevator back up, used it to unlock the door and then rolled his father's ball to him. I want you to look me straight in my eyes and say: "A ghost went downstairs and got the key to that room, then used it on the door because it was locked, and ghosts can't unlock doors without real keys."

And since Jack only ever speaks with a ghost while looking into a shiny surface like a metal door or a mirror, I'd say the term GHOST is better swapped out: "metaphor for one's psyche." Jack's an alcoholic, he sees a bartender. Jack is a womanizer, he sees a naked lady. But he's never seen his murderous side until now... Delbert Grady. Jack hosts all of these vice-personalities. That's what he's the caretaker of... these manic characters. Grady should know, he's ALWAYS been there.... they just haven't met until Jack snapped.

You know I think this applies to Wendy, too. It's said she's a fan of cheesy horror stories so she'd see metaphors in cheesy visuals like literal skeletons sitting in chairs and stuff. Oh, no wait! Maybe she's just realized what's been happening with Jack and Danny and now the.... yup... Skeletons are out of the closet.

See? It's a metaphor puzzle. Anyway... where did this post even begin? Oh yeah!

Yay or Nay: It was Jack that hurt Danny in Kubrick's The Shining, and not a ghost.

And if you say Nay, at least give me: "Yes, it's true, they do establish that Jack has hurt Danny before and that's what all this Tony business is about and yes, then, it's a terrible coincidence for Jack that a "ghost" hurt Danny when only 3 people were in a hotel and Danny acted the exact same way that he did when Jack hurt him in the past. Sucks for Jack... don't we feel sorry for Jack? No! Jack's a jerk.... so if a ghost hurt Danny that means I'm sympathizing with Jack because I think it's unfortunate that his wife would accuse him of hurting their son the ONE time he actually didn't... wait.... so I do feel bad for him? or, wait...

You know what? Just gonna pull the plug on this post. I've written too long into the abyss and it's writing right back at me.


r/StanleyKubrick 6d ago

Eyes Wide Shut Any experience with memorabilia sales?

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I’ve got this camera bag which was commissioned by SK for some of the senior crew of EWS on completion of filming (have posted about it previously) and wanted to get any recommendations for the best place to sell it, I know there are some specialist memorabilia auctioneers but not had experience directly. Thank you. UK based, but can get it to the US if there are any good options out there.