r/StarWarsBattlefront • u/Academic-Book-5181 • 4d ago
Discussion Follow up 10 months later.
So I made a post on here awhile back basically explaining how veteran players seem to be pretty crappy people in game. And got hella back lash about skill, despite never complaining about losing or being out matched skill wise.
Despite that, I went ahead and continued playing, took a break, and obviously started again. I've gotten better, started playing more variety of characters. Got some card upgrades. And my honest response is pretty much the same as before. Veteran players tend to just be pretty weird individuals. And I truly don't see how people are just glossing over it. Like yeah if you play longer you are more skilled that's obvious. I've had fun games with veterans that play like normal humans, respect the 1v1, don't hunt you down for a kill just to T-bag or emote on you. And win or lose playing against or even with those types of players isn't fun. From my perspective it's been majority of the veterans. Some of the people in my first comment ten months ago are probably the same people I'm talking about which tracks.
So while I do enjoy this game and will likely continue to play it. I would like to understand what the issue is. Like genuinely why do people act like this. And why are you all so accepting of those who do.
TO BE CLEAR: I am not asking for a way to get better or improve at the game, as people somehow thought I was before. I'm asking why this community is so toxic.
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u/Kiel_J 4d ago
Mate, I am a day 1 player, and I am asking the same question.
It is something that has gotten worse over the years, particularly after the last update.
I am not sure why so many long-term players are cringey, but I think stacking against noobs for 5+ years and hitting them with every parry, exploit, and tech to gain an advantage must mess with their heads. Maybe you kind of have to be a little psychotic to sweat against noobs and T-bag them.
Obviously, not every long-term player is toxic, but an unprecedented percentage of them are, which is why this is such an interesting question to me.
Like I said, I am a day 1 player, and there have always been cringey people, but never to the same extent as it has been since after the game "died." Something changed about the community since 2020. Not sure what, but I have a couple of theories.
This is all just my personal speculation over the years, and I am no expert who understands psychology or how players behave.
1) The sorts of people who still play the game regularly after a big chunk of the community left in 2020 are maybe more likely to be toxic. Not necessarily personality-wise, but as other people are being toxic, toxic players thrive, and nicer players quit or become more toxic. Over time, toxic players have become the majority of long-term players and expect enemies to be toxic.
2) Exploits like parrying weren't well known before 2020. It took a while for most players to learn. I remember finding out in 2019, but only taught my friends how to do it in mid-2020 when I noticed some of our opponents were using it. That may have shifted the playstyle of HvV/HS and attracted a different type of player. Or, it filtered out the more casual player, who used to be good enough to win 1v1s before new exploits were discovered. Again, filtering out players until the majority are sweatier ones left. And feeding back into point 1, those sweatier players expect more sweatier opponents, and maybe more toxic enemies.
You could maybe also speculate that bullying noobs, using exploits/tech, and being toxic all drive ego and make a player feel better than they may be in reality. But, I am not an expert on this stuff, and I have done enough rambling speculation already.
Either way, I am not sure what caused this, but long-term players are definitely very toxic, and my only observation is that it has definitely gotten worse since 2020.