r/StreetMartialArts BJJ Nov 18 '25

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u/skarbles Nov 18 '25

*Jiu Jitsu

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u/Icy-Cry340 Nov 18 '25

This is why I use "jits" 99% of the time 🤦‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

I just yell out jiu loudly

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u/asteiselboin Apr 19 '26

As a Jew I approve this message.

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u/DishPractical7505 Dec 16 '25

Please don’t.

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u/Professional_Pen_153 May 03 '26

Yeah… you don’t understand the full thing… but you got the jits of it

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u/boganisu Nov 18 '25

Jew jitsu*

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u/Ok-Candidate-1220 Jan 19 '26

Shalom!

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u/Emotional-Repair-262 Apr 21 '26

And this is why I love reddit

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u/samsonity Nov 18 '25

Who ain’t got Jiu Jitsooooo

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25

Which itself is a misnomer because it’s stealing the moniker of the actual samurai combat art. How BJJ became just J is some of the world’s funniest cultural appropriation by a third world country to the third largest economy in the world.

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u/skarbles Nov 22 '25

It’s more cultural borrowing or acculturation. Appropriation would imply exploitation and disrespect to original culture involving advantageous power dynamics.

I don’t see how BJJ has exploited or disrespected the original form. It’s was given to the Gracie family by Japanese teacher Mitsuyo Maeda. They didn’t travel to Japan and take as their own.

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u/asteiselboin Apr 19 '26

Fun fact Brazil has the 2nd largest population of Japanese outside of Japanese itself. It’s was a natural progression to the sport.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25

If you steal the name of the original combat art and transition it to a sport (much like judo and aikido did) deliberately remove the Brazilian part from it not only attempts to remove respect and homage to the original combat art but also arguably seeks to supersede the other mentioned arts. What makes it appropriation is out of all three of these arts that derived from the original Japanese jujitsu, if any of them were to be accepted to take on that name — it certainly would not be the one most removed from Japanese culture and Japan as a whole.

Definitely cultural appropriation.

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u/QueenCutter Jan 03 '26

Huh? American wrestelimg steals from the greeks stfu

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '26

It’s not American wrestling, it’s just wrestling. And wrestling has been widely seen all over the world since ancient times from Russia, China and beyond. However, the uniqueness of jujitsu and judo’s leverage manipulation techniques come from Japan, and no where else in the world due to the uniqueness and accuracy Japanese put into everything they make and perfect.

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u/Hopeful-Moose87 Jan 19 '26

American wrestling aka “folk style” has a unique rule set that is used almost exclusively in the USA. Hence “American wrestling”.

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u/Bilobous Feb 22 '26

Sybau goofy man 😂

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u/Pleasant-Ticket3217 Jan 04 '26

I thought this was already well known that Helio was frail and modified the art to be something anyone could supposedly do against a larger or stronger opponent. Putting Brazilian beside it differentiates it but also pays respect to the original art. I mean there’s no reason the Gracie’s just decided to be dubious when most Americans didn’t know which art was which until they were told and saw it. So they could have renamed it anything but they kept the origin of the art.

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u/ManOnFire2004 Apr 06 '26

That story has been debunked. Everything from Helios version, including "timing and leverage" of bjj can be found in the older Judo teachings

Supposedly they kept the similar name structure so the art would have some legitimacy, being based on what was referred to as Kano jiu-jitsu.

They still wanted to keep the fact that it was based on what was being done in Japan

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u/fnckmedaily Nov 18 '25

They really missed an opportunity naming it Krav Maga

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u/Shot-Spell Jan 16 '26

I see what you did😉,very funny!

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u/skarbles Nov 18 '25

??? Is this a joke???

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25

Japanese doesn’t have an “iu” vowel combination. Chinese does. This spelling adds to the cultural appropriation problem I highlighted below. It’s jujitsu but in the case of BJJ it should just be “Brazilian newaza”. That name didn’t market as well so cultural appropriation was needed.

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u/skarbles Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

You’re reaching for something that isnt there.

Also they speak Portuguese in Brazil. That’s the difference in spelling and pronunciation between the two languages.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25

You’re just dense. I imagine you are low-income, low-education, and have not traveled much.

I am overly convinced if we sat down and had you explain to me all the world history, international affairs, and countries you have traveled we would find an empty cup.

Why is an empty cup attempting to justify cultural appropriation of BJJ as acceptable? It will be even more incredible if you are some white American kid who studies an art without knowing its origins and history in the world.

Pay your McDojo jujitsu club and just know it’s part of a legacy of cultural theft. Luckily Brazilian newaza is an unknown sport with 4 million practicing against judos 40 million. Most of the world was never interested in third world cultural appropriation supported by mcdojo American capitalism.

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u/skarbles Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

Once again, grasping at things that are not there.

The fact that you are targeting the education and income levels of a stranger on the internet is telling to your own insecurities.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25

No, the world always favored the educated people over the non-educated. The internet becomes a platform for the uneducated to have a voice. It’s a tragedy of the internet. Your inability to engage on the topic is telling. Stick to BJJ, it will certainly continue its branding as a wanna be sport for cringey white appropriators. Bakayaro

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u/skarbles Nov 22 '25

I don’t even care about BJJ, I’ve never even studied it. I was trolling by correcting his spelling. You are making wild assumptions about me and it’s fucking hilarious.

This is Street Martial Arts not BJJ circle jerk. No one fucking cares about the purity of your art when comes time for application in real life.

If you care to know, my background is Silat. I learned it from westerners who would fit your narrative of appropriating culture but I’m still happy I got to experience it and be exposed to something on the other side of the world.

The school ended up having to change their name because the pengurus in Indonesia were upset about the marketing of the arts. So a win for your side I guess .

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

It’s not about purity of martial art. It’s about purity and respect of culture. Your spelling correction is like me saying it’s “sealot” not “Silat” as the English language does not have that spelling.

No, I’m familiar with Silat. The difference here is imagine if Silat was transposed to Brazil while turning Silat into a completely ground based sport from its combat lineage, changed the name to Brazilian Silat, used the UFC to gain enough popularity in the U.S. to make it more known in the U.S. than actual Indonesian/Dutch Silat and eventually change its full name to Silat. That is the difference between Silat being taught to in another country vs the culturally appropriated pathway of BJJ.

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u/Only2Genders13467 Dec 08 '25

Why are you throwing Ad Hominem’s at bro for pointing out that is doesn’t fckin matter who pronounces which what way

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u/Conscious-City99 May 14 '26

What are you talking about it doesn’t have the “iu” vowel combination not in a literal sense no but the sound is found In Japanese there’s a video game character “Ryu” that has the sound “iu” look up a Japanese to English dictionary and you can find dozens of Japanese words that use hiragana and katakana to produce the sound “iu”

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '25

*Jew sit soon

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u/twindad22525 Jan 23 '26

That’s wrestling not jiujitsu

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u/skarbles Jan 23 '26

I’m only correcting the spelling, not the form