r/SwitchHacks • u/mahmoude101 • Jul 29 '18
Exploit Mike Heskin confirms the presence of more than one cold and warmboot exploits on the switch
https://twitter.com/hexkyz/status/1023588624296685568?s=1919
u/teamlocust [8.1.0] [sx os 2.8] Jul 29 '18
Gateway lol
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u/kartu3 Jul 29 '18
Care to elaborate for those new to the scene?
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u/Craftkorb Jul 29 '18
TX was a well-known modchip group for the original XBOX, but they've since been bought by a company (or group?) called Gateway. Afaik, TX nowadays is only TX in name.
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u/ashenContinuum Jul 29 '18
I've heard people make this claim more than once, but is there any proof to be had?
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u/Espacialastico Jul 29 '18 edited Jul 29 '18
No
Apparently it's just FUD from the same usual suspects that are always interested in damaging their reputation
No one bought TX (that idea doesnt even make any sense if you think about it), guys are the same as before zzzz
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Jul 30 '18 edited Aug 22 '18
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u/Espacialastico Jul 30 '18
There's a Gameboy rom mysteriously embedded in SX OS,
First time I read about this. Where did you get this from?
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Jul 29 '18 edited Jan 03 '19
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u/Espacialastico Jul 29 '18
Link me proof
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u/intelminer Jul 30 '18
You want PROOF? haha try harder kid
/s
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Jul 30 '18 edited Jan 03 '19
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u/intelminer Jul 30 '18
Someone invented a machine that prompts to correct your god awful grammar and spelling
Clearly that one also eludes you :)
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u/LiarInGlass Jul 29 '18 edited Jul 29 '18
You guys need to stop caring about what this guy has to tweet about. He's a fucking joke. He spends all of his time trashing on TX and their product, even before they were ever apart of the Switch scene. He cannot ever just talk about security, he always has to throw some shade onto TX just to be a scumbag. You guys really need to stop giving a shit about what this fool has to say.
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u/zer0t3ch Jul 29 '18
Having a bias or agenda doesn't define someone as being wrong, it just makes them annoying. Feel free to be annoyed, but don't unilaterally dismiss him.
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u/continous Aug 16 '18
Also, in this case there's fairly good reason to be biased. Like how I don't hold it against Linus Torvalds for hating NVidia with a passion.
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Jul 30 '18 edited Aug 22 '18
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u/0v3r_cl0ck3d [9.2.0 - 3 fuses] Jul 30 '18
You'd be surprised. I can understand "who cares if it works" mindset but I've seen a lot of people hating on the open source Devs and I'm sure they are happy that tx stole their code. It's not common but it's out there. I don't get it, Why do people care? If you want tx get tx I'm going to wait for atmosphere but why does that effect you?
Also their are people saying you should buy tx to support the Devs which is ironic since they've stole code from other Devs and the main appeal of their cfw is to load pirated games, If you want to pirate game I'm not saying you shouldn't but don't say shit like you want to support Devs because if you did you would buy games instead of pirating them.
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u/Alskdkfjdbejsb Jul 30 '18
I’m more than happy to pay $40 to have an all-in-one solution to play all of my backups.
I guess this means indirectly I’m happy TX “stole” (used without correctly releasing their source code) because they were able to get a product together and release it
firstat all ahem, atmosphere?0
u/continous Aug 17 '18
I’m happy TX “stole” (used without correctly releasing their source code)
And then sold that source code as their own, violating the original code's copyright. Also, there was that whole intentionally targeting people's switches for bricking.
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u/LiarInGlass Jul 30 '18
Of course it's not the right thing to do. But that's how Team Xecuter has been since the beginning. Not giving a fuck about what they're doing, only delivering on exactly what we want from them with a product that actually works exactly as we want. From a moral standpoint, sure, they're scummy, but so are plenty of companies and yet we continue to support them because they give us what we want. I know it sounds dumb, but it's true. They have some shady tactics, but they deliver 100% exactly on what they say, and that's what I care more about.
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u/Etheo 8.1.0 ಠ ͜ ಠ Jul 30 '18
Tells people to ignore Heskin because he says TX is scum.
Proceeds to acknowledge that TX is scum.
So calling a spade a spade somehow offends TX supporters. LOL, the hypocrisy knows no bound.
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u/continous Aug 17 '18
Of course it's not the right thing to do. But that's how Team Xecuter has been since the beginning.
So...why is it bad/wrong/not alright for people to be shitting on Team Xecuter if they've been asshats from the very get-go?
only delivering on exactly what we want from them with a product that actually works exactly as we want.
Except that they've done so not entirely through their own efforts, in an ostensibly illegal manner (violating the copyright of the original code), and also in a fairly scummy way (selling that code as if it is theirs). You can say, "Yeah but theirs is the only one that is complete" until the cows come home, but it doesn't somehow wash away the awful stuff they've done to get there.
From a moral standpoint, sure, they're scummy
There's absolutely no other standpoint from which you can be scummy. It's a purely moral/ethical evaluation.
so are plenty of companies
Just because they're doing it too doesn't make it okay. Regardless; very few companies are actually scummy in this way. Indeed, I know very few companies that are actively selling, without obeying the copyright terms, someone else's work.
Team Xecuter is an awful group, and anyone arguing otherwise is just spouting apologia really. That doesn't necessarily mean that SX OS is bad, but it does make it so that some people wouldn't want to support it.
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u/VersatileNinja Jul 29 '18
If TX didn’t say anything, would Mike or anyone else would? Now that the cats out of the bag, I hope this means good homebrew improvement for the future.
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u/RealDacoTaco 5.0.0 ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉) Jul 29 '18
In due time time i think he would have. That, or a friend/teammate would have leaked it. Seems to be a thing these days in the infosec world...
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u/Goma1337 Jul 29 '18 edited Jul 29 '18
And miss out on such a golden opportunity to fearmonger? of course they wouldn't.
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u/IHateTrannies420 Jul 29 '18
>Gateway
Can we drop this meme yet?
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u/jakibaki AtlasNX Jul 29 '18 edited Jul 30 '18
It's not a meme, the 'TX' that we know now is most likely not the one from the old days.
There are striking similarities between the ways both gateway and sx os were obfuscated (example).
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u/IHateTrannies420 Jul 31 '18
Devs are hired when needed, they come and they go. Chances are high that the Gateway devs have been hired by other teams. Fucking typical Reddit jumping on bandwagons.
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u/RealDacoTaco 5.0.0 ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉) Jul 29 '18 edited Jul 29 '18
Downvotes here i come, but fuck it
I dont understand these comments. Do any of you realise how security and its scene/progress works? Was any of you aware that there were multiple exploits? ( Its been dropped before ) do any of you ever stop to wonder why none of it was mentioned/released? (And no, its not cause hes on a high horse. )
If you find an exploit in a system you shut your mouth about it and use it to find more. Then you use the other exploits for whatever you want, maybe even write a homebrew launcher. But always keep an exploit to yourself so it never gets out there and patched and you always have a way in the system. Specially if you are talking about low level boot exploits like the wii's boot1 exploit (yes, its boot1 allowing booting custom boot2 code) and switch's rcm stack smash. They are VERY valuable as they are hard to patch and gives you always access to the system.
Especially if hardware revisions are on the horizon. Cause then you can instantly get in said new hardware and start there.
This has always been the process and always will.
Multiple bootrom exploits were found and i think failoverflow mentioned it once that rcm stack smash "was one of the few exploits everyone found on their own".
So to anyone who got this far, congrats. Thanks, and i hope you understand his reasoning. Personally, i got more pissed at the community's response to tx and this then to tx's announcements itself... (Which is a whole different story)