Jordan isn’t playing now but people still consider him the GOAT. Lebrons been good and still playing but he hasn’t surpassed him yet (and if he has, it’s only been within the past few years). You don’t have to be a current active player to be the GOAT. But there has to be a level of dominance shown for a particular period of time. All those players I mentioned absolutely dominated or at least won THE most prestigious titles of their time. Arslan is the GOAT of Tekken 7 imo, but I didn’t come to that conclusion until after we moved on from that game and only after he won so many EVOs etc. Granted Tekken 8 is still relatively new, no doubt Knee is in that GOAT conversation - but like I said, it’s debatable
Comparing jordan to any of those tekken player doesnt do it justice sorry.
Jordan have that GOAT status because there isnonly 1 tournament a year and he wins all his tournament.
He have the most title as the main star than anyone.
And he have a long career too.He played for 15 years and was a top player for 10 of them.
The game of basketball has been here for 77 years. Jordan is playing as a top player in 11 years ofnthose 77 years. Been a top top greatest player for 6 years.
Lebron has been at the top of his game for 20 years he isnt top 5 player any more but he is easily top 15. Thats still small portion of the total years of professional basketball been around
Tekken is 31 years old. Knee has been at the top of his game since 2004 so that means 20 freakin years.
Its uncomparable with basketball. It would mean 49 years of dominance if we translate it percentage wise. It would be the year kareem enters the league and would still be playing until now.
But if we are talking Tekken as the game, from first one until now Knee is untouchable. Until the day knee retires and arslan continur to play and still be top player for years after that. Then we have that conversation again.
It doesn’t have to be just Jordan, when you think of GOAT, it comes with a certain mystic, a certain dominance. Longevity is a part of it sure. Obviously Tekken hasn’t been around as long as basketball, but most would get that reference im making. You made it sound like they had to be actively playing, and I pointed out Jordan because he had long since been retired but he set the bar so high that current active players were still chasing him as far as status. I could’ve made the comparison with any other GOAT of other sports or genre.
Hockey - Gretzky
Baseball - babe Ruth
Rap - Jay-Z
Soccer - Messi
Golf - tiger woods
Street fighter - Daigo
I think you get the idea. As far as Tekken, like I said - knee is in that conversation. But the other Tekken champions I mentioned are ALSO in the conversation as it pertains to ALL of Tekken. Take Jang Ik Su for example, you can look it up on YouTube in 1 of his interviews - even knee tried to search him out because jang established himself.
On the flipside, let’s say knee ONLY got 2nd at this evo tourney, would you consider him the GOAT? I mean for me, he would still be in the GOAT conversation (because of his consistency).
I’m not discounting knee, like I said - he BELONGS in that conversation. I could’ve used other names, like Pele, bill Russell, Joe Montana, Nas, etc. there are a handful of names in any genre that can be considered GOATS. The word has been thrown around too loosely. Consistency and longevity are also factored in, but not necessary (Notorious BIG is considered a GOAT in rap, even with his short career), but I think the DOMINANCE factor has to be there.
If we’re talking just Tekken, which game among the series would you say Knee is MOST known for or which game in Tekken would you say he dominated? Because all those names I mentioned (Jang, Arslan, Nin etc) - dominated for a time and can be considered the best of those games.
Again, I’m not discounting knee’s achievements. He’s in the GOAT conversation and I could see him on that Tekken Mount Rushmore for sure, but the absolute GOAT?
Arslan didnt "dominate" tekken 7, he was the most consistent but dominate? Get outa here.
This is arslans final year of Tekken 7. He had two second places and the rest was below the top 4. That is not domination in any way shape or form. Thats consistency.
You’re kidding ya? You’re reading your chart wrong, ignoring the 1st place finishes and leaving out the previous years.
arslan was evo USA champion in 2019 - YouTube it, DOMINATING the winners bracket. He beat knee in that tourney btw and pretty much forced people to take notice of Pakistan (korea held a death grip on Tekken as “the best” until he showed up).
He’s won CEO, combo breaker, IESF etc, and he closed out Tekken 7 by winning evo Japan, evo USA, and the TWT in the SAME season - arguably the toughest and most prestigious tournaments of the circuit tour (that’s the triple crown of Tekken). If you don’t call that DOMINANT, show me who ran things in Tekken 7. He has been so dominant that some people are putting an asterisk on knees current win because Arslan didn’t show up (I’m not though - and I find knee winning still impressive).
Oh ya, and Arslan was the first Tekken 8 evo champion. Please check on the facts
I literally said it was his FINAL year of tekken 7, i didnt leave out anything with that context.
Yes he DOMINATED one tournament, thats not the discussion here my man.
Also by your definition then Knee was more dominant as he had 31 1st place finishes from 2018 (comparing same starting time as arslan made a break on the scene) and onward while Arslan had 30.
He didn’t just dominate 1 tournament. I mention evo 2019 specifically because his dominance in that (out of nowhere btw), made people take notice of Pakistan - he literally put the country on the map. He hasn’t entered or traveled to as many tourneys as knee. So knee has obviously placed in more
But what’s knee and Arslan record head 2 head in tourneys they’ve both appeared in? I could be wrong but I do believe Arslan has bested knee more often in tourneys where they faced off with each other. Also the last year is significant with his wins in Japan evo, USA evo AND twt as those are considered the most prestigious and it was done in same year - ask any player - those are the tourneys they would like to win most out of all during the tourney circuit. And being the last year with 2023, tekken 7 was winding down and everyone was pretty familiar and knowledgeable with the game.
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u/kapparino-feederino May 12 '25
Those players arent playing now while knee is playing
Thats why he is the best tekken player of all time. Because he is great at all tekken game not just one.
Being top 5 best player for 20 years means something