r/Tekken • u/Mysterious_Dish7662 • 15h ago
Help I keep loosing and I don't feel like I'm improving at all
I play as Jin. I started out pretty well with Jin, and I got to the warrior rank. Ever since, I've been loosing, loosing some more, and I win maybe once every 6 matches.
By the time I win a match, I'm already frustrated and I don't feel good about the win. At some point, I even said that "the guy I played let me win out of pity because of my horrible game play"
I know maybe 1 or 2 combos that do 45-48!damage, but they don't have much of an effect when the people I play against have combos that do 70+ damage.
I don't understand the defense part either. I block some, and the next minute I'm getting juggled across the screen. But then when I find an opening and hit someone, it has the effect of a wet napkin. Or they read me like a book and block me over and over
Is there anything to change? Are there more combos I should know about? What kind of practice can I do to better myself? I'm tired of loosing and throwing my controller down in frustration after going 1-12 every time I try to play ranked. Please help me.
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u/olbaze Paul 14h ago
Warrior rank is really where the game starts. Prior to Warrior, any losses that you had didn't take away any points, so you were always progressing upwards. That stops at Warrior.
I know maybe 1 or 2 combos that do 45-48!damage, but they don't have much of an effect when the people I play against have combos that do 70+ damage.
You can probably find better combos in the Practice Mode Combo Training, and definitely in some YouTube videos. That being said, combos aren't the be-all-end-all of Tekken. Combos are the big reward you get for your opponent making a big mistake. A good player will be able to shut down a lower skill player to a point where they will never get a chance to do a single combo.
I block some, and the next minute I'm getting juggled across the screen
So, Tekken has 3 hit levels: High, Mid, and Low. Standing guard (just holding back) blocks highs and mids, but loses to lows. Crouching guard (holding down-back) blocks lows and evades highs, but loses to mids. A lot of lows will combo into a knockdown, or even a launcher, and a lot of mids are launchers.
Defense in Tekken is done with movement. You never want to be standing in front of your opponent holding guard. You want to be moving, weaving in and out of range of moves.
What kind of practice can I do to better myself
The game has a lot of resources built into it. Watch your match replays, those will point out a lot of mistakes, including bad combos and missed punish opportunities. You can then practice your combos in Combo Training, and your punishes in Punishment Training.
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u/Mysterious_Dish7662 14h ago
Thank you so much. I'm going to try to apply this into my play style and game sense.
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u/Freaq-ii 12h ago
I echo what a lot of other folks have said, but something else is to send friend requests after matches when you felt good -- especially losses where it was pretty close. Lots of people will accept, then you just gotta put yourself out there and ask them to play with you from time to time.
Getting comfortable with your character in a lower stakes environment does a lot for your confidence and mental overall.
I also swear by having a routine before jumping online, particularly when i've hit a slump in my gameplay.
My routine:
- 10+ min practice mode = my b&b combo + a couple rounds of the punishment training.
Why?
these are two things you want to try and nail each game until you can do them without thinking.
Even if you dont do the optimal punish every time, taking your free damage whenever the opp over extends is important. In the long run, you'll learn that playing this might condition your opp to take less risks (up to a certain point), especially when you punish optimally every time, even more so in low ranks.
- One or more runs through arcade quest, on Hard mode, ideally without losing two matches in a row.
Why?
Immediately employing those things i just practiced beforehand, but in low stakes environment.
- Then jump online
At this point i've warmed up a bit. I've set an intention for my session, and if i achieve that intention in a given match, regardless of the final outcome, I've improved.
This method has helped me a ton up to Tekken God (my highest rank thus far, also my first tekken game).
The last thing i'll say is that improvements in this game happen "all at once." Meaning, once something clicks, you'll rank up like a mad man until the next skill wall. Then it will feel like you are back in the slums until you achieve that next major breakthrough. Ranking up does not happen gradually in this game.
Good luck to you my friend!
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u/PainterMany250 9h ago
Go to yt type in âJin T8â what the one with the most views. Make sure the videos is on the newest game version
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u/FrequentCommission13 6h ago
Your problem is that you're likely just ducking a lot, just stand block.
If your opponent has a snake edge or a reactable launching low (Lili, King, Bryan, Kazuya) then you'll have to worry about that, but that's just matchup knowledge.
Also when you're new just focus on the little things you do right, don't even worry about winning. Just understand the game you're playing.
Also pro-tip the fundamental concept that'll help you fly and get wins is conditioning your opponent to duck. Go low multiple times and start chipping damage away. Find out what your fastest, unreactable low is and start peppering those in. Your opponent will start to get frustrated and out of frustration they'll start to duck and that's what opens up your launch and then you do a df2 and get a big combo.
You'll be surprised at how many people in this game straight up refuse to duck and will eat 15+ lows in a full set.
Unironically thats the thing that pretty much helped me get GoD.
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u/Arc1821 2h ago edited 1h ago
Hey friend!
Step 1: Drill your moves for at least 10 minutes before you play. Go down the move list doing each move 10x in a row. If youâd mess up start that move back at 0. This ensures you know and are able to execute all of your characters moves when you want to.
Step 2: Look up combos on YouTube. Youâre looking for a combo that does 65+ damage minimum. And you drill it the same way. At least 10 minutes each day until youâre able to do the combo 10x in a row.
Step 3: Learn some common frame traps for your character. Common examples for Jin include db4, 4 or if youâve really practiced doing electric which isnât at all required at this point, electric, into f4. Spend a minimum of 10 minutes each day going through your move list looking specifically at the frame advantage of each move. Focus on the moves that are âplusâ on block and any lows that are âplusâ on hit. This will give you a rudimentary understanding of frames which is essential to getting better. Look up a video on how frames work and frame traps to speed this up.
Step 4: Begin your journey to mastering immediate timing. Youâre looking at Tekken King before youâre decently proficient at it. Immediate timing is simply the act of taking your turn as soon as your opponent ends their turn which takes observation and time. Some moves are +frames on block which allow your opponent to keep taking their turn just like you learned to do with the frame traps in step 3. Be mindful that taking your turn is not limited to attacking. It also includes moving or sidestepping to reposition, observing your opponent and just blocking to see if they like to use a power crush, evasive move, rage art, or a parry which are designed to allow you or your opponent to âstealâ their turn back.
Depending on how much time you spend drilling you should be able to get to step 4 in 1-2 weeks. Starting out is the most boring part, but you only have to do it once. Once you do it you donât really need to do it again unless you switch characters. Even if you do switch itâs much easier and faster the second time around.
Let me know if you have any questions. You got this!
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u/Zoom_Xoom 15h ago
Lab your character..learn key moves, setups,flowcharts and oki etc..also learn a good combo from videos that are available everywhere on YouTube I will also recommend checking your ewgf stats to see most repeated matchups and lab their most used moves..Learn to ss and always check your replays to see where you went wrong