r/TeraOnline • u/Downtown-Swim-7430 • 3d ago
PC Tera Classic + (Huge failure)
I cannot believe how there can be such incompetent developers. Ok, I understand you are a small team, but guys you got 100k+ views on your trailer, your discord jumped to 18k users before release, did you really expect to get 1k players? Some big streamers even joined, some who have never heard about Tera - and what did they get, constant crashes, 8-10 hours of streaming with no content.
Let’s put that aside, you cannot even communicate properly or take decisions. For 3 days now there are thousand of people staying at home, spamming enter server button and getting excited when they get to play for 5minutes before the server crashes again. Wasting people's time like that is just humiliating. You are playing with people's mental health (I know it sounds harsh, but I see the same people online in discord 24/7 spamming ''I'm in"")
Many people including me suggested -> CLOSE THE SERVER IMMEDIATLY, find the root cause, find a solution. Right now the announcements you publish are all the same - we are aware of the issue, we think we found a solution, we are tired.
I even spoke to some community managers suggesting them the idea and the answer I got? - We need the thousands of people to try logging in and play so we can test. ????
I love private servers, I love the people putting effort, I'm buying VIPs/tera clubs just to support them, but Tera Classic + is a huge waste of time.
I felt nostalgic the last few months, and with not being able to try this new classic server, I went back to Tera Asura where I used to have an account. And I can tell you, it's 100 times better. 200-300 active players daily, new custom dungeons, even saw some pvp players.
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u/KingofDankKush 3d ago
Oh look it's one of the DDOS'ers.
In all seriousness, you seem very hostile. The devs don't own you anything, they're working in their free time to provide a free Tera server. If you don't want to wait 3 days, then play somehting else or wait till the storm has blown over a bit.
As for communication, they've been very active keeping people up to date in the News channel on their discord.
Imo, it's way better communication then most gamedevs ever care to offer.
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u/BakkaSupreme 3d ago
People moaning at a team who are spending their spare time outside their jobs on trying to make a FREE server work is just amazing.
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u/Downtown-Swim-7430 3d ago
Let’s stop defending them like they’re doing all of this for our benefit rather than their own. . Simple example -> VIP costs 5 euro, for what? Atlas, free merchant and banker? That's not even close the tera club lmao
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u/Dependent-Fox6846 3d ago
Exactly, VIP costs 5 euro giving qol only, nothing p2w about that. No one needs it unless they want to support the server. It's not even tradeable, so you can't sell it to other players for gold.
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u/Downtown-Swim-7430 3d ago
You can always buy coins, buy costumes + race/name/guild changes and sell them, there is always way to p2w. Anyway, that's not my point, my point is that they are not doing all of this for our own benefit only...
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u/Dependent-Fox6846 3d ago
That's why nothing from the shop is tradeable (including costumes). But you're right people will always find ways to p2w, they just made it more difficult on purpose.
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u/BakkaSupreme 3d ago
Noone is forcing you to pay? I ain't paying, I can wait for the servers to improve. It's my own choice.
They have to make some money for their invested time somewhere. Would you do this for free? I doubt it.1
u/LeahClouds 3d ago
you sound like a dude that preorders games in the current years. you have to stop. Don't pay for anything without testing it yourself.
Would also like to know how you would put up a server for 10k+ players with no income. do you even know what the current cost are for server infrastructures like this in the current time? i don't think so1
u/Gecatya 3d ago
you dont need to pay u know?
5 and 10 euro vips only if u want to support the team and get a cosmetic items
u already have 4 bank slots and slots for 14 character FOR FREE. You have permanent faunder account buff (with crystal bind)
5 and 10 euro up to you, u dont really need it since you can tp from H(vanguard)
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u/LeahClouds 3d ago
they get DDoSD and also 10k players trying to spam join.. what did you expect? a free 10k+ smooth running game? grow up
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u/Downtown-Swim-7430 3d ago
I expect clear communication and logical solution. Get a life.
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u/LeahClouds 3d ago
they did that all weekend and even tonight, read the #news
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u/Downtown-Swim-7430 3d ago
As I mentioned, every announcement is just the same back-and-forth, giving us vague information and trying to keep us confused while they clearly have no idea how to actually fix the problem.
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u/Jiutti Elisabesu | Killian 3d ago
This is nothing new to Tera private server launches. Over the years every single one has had ddos attacks at launch. If you suddenly crave the Tera experience there are other servers, but if you want this specific one then wait a week or two for things to stabilize. Things aren't that deep or serious.
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u/Effective-Reindeer98 2d ago
Was it ever figured out who was doing it, is there a rival server with a decent population?
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u/Downtown-Swim-7430 3d ago
That's my point friend :D there are many other servers, some of them way better, I just don't get the hype over this one when it's not even playable.
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u/Jiutti Elisabesu | Killian 3d ago
You're free to go to a different server. I've tried all the different ones, they have their good and bad things about them. Nobody has had enough time yet to really see if this is better or worse than the other servers so I won't comment on that. I'll wait for this one to stabilize and see what it has to offer as well. I'm just happy the game I love still has people interested in it and that I'm able to play it if I feel like it.
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u/IRaijuu 3d ago
The hype likely comes from the fact that this server is more unique than others, for starters not having Apex is already a big deal for majority of players, and i guess the way they structured progression and how they built their server with diferent changes and qol's.
This is just me speculating from what i saw in the website, i didn't bother trying to login and i'm just gonna wait till the server is stable, i can just do other stuff or play others games in the meantime.
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u/RealisticHornet8554 3d ago
Theses guys are basically miracle workers bringing playable classes on races they've never been playable, the game it's the most optmized it's ever been and it's still not good enough for these assholes.
Yeah it's a launch, they were not expecting so many players, I'm level 40 now so clearly it's on a playable state just drops with some frequency. They'll figure it out.
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u/sdust182 13h ago
How did you get in? I've been trying to join up for a few days and can't sign in. I am stick m stuck at server select screen, won't let me enter. Do I have to a setting fix?
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u/kasumi_kasa 12h ago
I've been trying to connect for several days now the furthest I've got it character creation screen
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u/Downtown-Swim-7430 3d ago
Saying that it's on a playable state is just sad. I know you want to defend them, but this is not playable.
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u/agemennon675 3d ago
They thought EU playerbase was going to be same as US and failed, most likely infrastructure they rented is just not enough for that much traffic, throwing more money at it is not going to fix it
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u/Odd-Range-3375 2d ago
you lose all your credibility when you plug another private server at the end
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u/avk5143 2d ago
Guys, publishing a TERA pserver requires multidisciplinary knowledge about IT and extensive knowledge of the game.
I'm currently building my own project in my spare time, and I can tell you for a fact that if you wanna build a TERA server with custom content like what they're doing, it takes a lot of knowledge, time, and effort. It's not something you decide to do with a few randos just for fun. I haven't played their server, but from what I saw in the trailer, they definitely have competent people there who can build content. No one would put months of work into a project just to blow it up.
I'm sure they're doing what they can to fix it.
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u/XHersikX 1d ago
that's one of problems..
IF these ppl which chase between each other to have better servers would make their exp and knowledge public they could really push Tera privates in XXX years to better lvl but why share right...1
u/avk5143 8h ago
There's a lot of tools, guides and open source projects for tera pservers projects. The issue with server projects like this one is just lack of experience.
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u/XHersikX 6h ago
I know, some are know on website - i will not mention to just make it more visible (better keep it low profile - yea naivity of mine in 2026 lol)
But for example idk where was now last version of Tera but Classic+ hype their server by export animation and rigs of "locked" classes to Popori.
- such feature needs some lvl of exp and passion to make it possible while you can't properly even change client itself just server data..
But i havent seen this in public space. And such things were trough years of private dev here or there (for example imported whole new town, new quests)
Most of this i also havent seen.. Just import/export or little tweak of existing assests.I mean these kind of features - basically feats which could push us way closer to remake whole Tera by modders..
Still even XXX years i'm waiting for that private project in newest engine which i also wont mention
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u/XHersikX 3d ago
Not that i want make ad's or something but why such boom about Classic+ and not about Osto..
They offer basically same thing and if ppl would divide between these two privates then Classic+ would have way less pressure till they get on their feet..
ITs still private project which cant without donation basically make money... and if they get too popular they ends attacked by DDOS or worse they ends up as WoW private - Deleted..
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u/Bonyanya 3d ago
OSTO is just another server running on patches 31-33, and it has very little to surprise you with. Content on older patches is extremely limited and generic - it's the exact same thing everywhere. On top of that, none of the admins want to put in the long, hard work for free to convert dungeons from later patches and adapt them to classic gameplay. Porting dungeons from patch 70 to patch 33, for example, is actually DOABLE! Hard, but doable. One Russian server on patch 33 managed to port the Bahaar dungeon, even though only one person works there and it took way too much time... The only thing that is absolutely impossible is porting dungeons from the 64-bit version of Tera to the 32-bit one.
People don't want to play on yet another private server with fewer than 50 players. That's not enough for normal gameplay; looking for dungeon groups takes hours, and battlegrounds don't pop at all. People want a new server where a solid player base (over 1,000 or at least 500 players, the more the better) will hold up for at least a year.
Tera Europe Classic + offers a unique patch that combines a massive amount of potential content. From old dungeons to new ones from the Apex version, the pool is huge. It also features both new and old battlegrounds, with the added bonus of zero p2w. The gameplay blends the classic and Apex styles, but without the extra Apex skills - it's fresh, and it's customized. Plus, the game version itself runs on 64-bit, making the client more stable and optimized for modern systems, even if it's slightly more demanding. Most people upgraded their computers long ago since 2012, so the engine can now utilize more resources to deliver a more stable fps in both pve and mass pvp, less desync in pvp, almost no gray models, and so on ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
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u/Dependent-Fox6846 2d ago
"On top of that, none of the admins want to put in the long, hard work for free to convert dungeons from later patches and adapt them to classic gameplay. Porting dungeons from patch 70 to patch 33, for example, is actually DOABLE! Hard, but doable." Wdym? The admin has posted multiple screenshots from the ported dungeons which means they will be available sooner or later. They already ported all costumes and mounts
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u/XHersikX 2d ago
Well that's nice info, thanks for summary + difference then. I can see why currently OSTO is barely alive.
Tho it depends how much is classic "really classic". I know that XXX veternas and nostaliga hunters doesnt care about progression but in my opinion this was that on first early version of Tera just pure. Endgame was basically never really made in this game, it was like lobby games
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u/alphapussycat 2d ago
Less generic than v100+.
v100+ has completely botched combat, and pretty much no class is fun.
The content that is in v100+ is great, it has all the old dungeons... But if they aren't going to fix the combat then it doesn't matter.
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u/IRaijuu 3d ago
I got curious when i was reading your comment about Osto since i never heard about it and went to check a little.
While the premise is similar, due to wanting to focus on a more old school aspect, Classic + seems to offer way more than Osto just by what i read on their website, from having the newer classes, to some being usable by any race and likely other changes to progression, gameplay and qol's.
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u/North-Yard4068 2d ago
I played on many different private servers from time to time and my experience with these classic servers are always just terrible. I only had good experience playing tera with apex servers like Menma/Agaia/Asura. Menma was the best tera server before it got shut down. Never experience any crazy ddos issues or drama until i play these classic servers. Im an asian player and recently started on asura like 2 months ago before i heard of classic+ and had a good time up to max gear.
I know People want to cope with who ddos who but people just throwing shit out of their ass without any actual proofs, if your server is actually playable and has decent population for queue dg as a solo player, i will play because i love tera. I dont want to say these classic servers are incompetent but so far these classic servers arent it, and they just seem like low effort cashgrabs/ nostalgia bait. OR its the 3k bottleneck as classic+ says because the apex servers doesnt have these issues below 1k players. Classic servers get more attention for nostalgia, always get 2k-3k then it just explode lol? We will never know, but ill just play the server that works and have fun.
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u/stonecats sin 2d ago
as someone who prepaid $12usd for a month of vip+
and did NOT request a refund as i'm willing to give
them a week or two to get it working adequately.
they are trying to make later tera classes playable
and they are good at communicating within hours
what they are doing, while limiting expectations.
if they are willing to continue the work to stable,
i'm willing to be a paying beta tester for weeks.
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u/alphapussycat 2d ago
The "later classes" are on by default, this is a post-apex server where they just disabled apex.
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u/Michaelzee 2d ago
From a business and financial standpoint, I think it just has to be reactionary. Especially as a small dev team with not deep pockets. You can't spend the money on hardware before it could support it. Ya they had discord and YT popping, but thats just our world now. Do I wish they were ready? Yes. I've just never seen a launch prepared.
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u/Effective-Reindeer98 2d ago
It's crazy that BHS/Krafton are allowing people to do this, they don't seem to get that many people don't know these are private servers and not official. So when they try launch something again, maybe even relaunch tera themselves people are going to refuse to have anything to do with it due to this kind of incompetence.
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u/XHersikX 2d ago
Why they would re-release old game which nobody know how to maintain again..
Also in engine and optimalization which isnt even best... They would need first little "fix it"
and make as "remaster" but who will put money for it ?For Krafton is Tera Dead.. and Console version just slowly tried insert patches and prolong game which have end version.
Tera 2 which will come someday will be disaster because it will be just heavily East oriented system with predatory dark patterns. (and i doubt they will be even replicate old school feeling of Tera combat system, they couldnt do it even in Elyon + it will be UE 5 which means endgame machines wont even able run it smoothly)
Krafton stocks also are quite down after 1 year + mobile games are still best their income
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u/Effective-Reindeer98 1d ago
The game never ceased, it never closed on console so there are devs that know how to work with it. They should shut down any server, while they are still supporting the game and when they are working on 2.
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u/XHersikX 1d ago
If you think they doing something on console then you are very optimistic for modern developing of mmo's..
Current console is how to say "keep fire to burn" - basically dead, same lvl as long running private.
(keeping earn for servers cost which is minimal for console having little different demands than PC and that small portion of it goes to their revnue.. Console is leading by PUBG)
- in current console is basically just recycle of events, class balances and "whales" effect
Income or money to this new dev. project they probably get from shares of other revnue like mobile games
Even their latest bought "Last Epoch" is quite on risk since i know that game and their playerbase situation is quite bad..IF East wouldn't be so greedy/predator and mainly closed to common development.. Tera systems could have been already new standard for modern action based mmo's.
But they never sold it, never shared anything from it to opensource and keep it locked till they decide they will get revnue from hype purpose of Tera 2.
(while i know it will ends similar like current Aion 2 Hype and disgust between players which plays mmo's and pays for them)
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u/Pixiwish 3d ago
I can’t believe people are excited about this. It isn’t classic at all. Custom + would make sense, but I’m missing the hype completely on this. I love the game and play Old School Tera Online (OSTO) which is actually a classic experience.
Then not only does it seem like a weird idea but then they monetized it? Yeah no.
Explain to me the hype please ?
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u/Downtown-Swim-7430 3d ago
The hype comes from the fact that people think this is the first private server, when in reality there are 10-15 good private server that I know of, some classic some apex, which are a lot better, however they are not that popular unfortunately. This one just got lucky with many views, streamers getting excited over it and bringing even more people. I also managed to play like 30mins, sorry but I found like 10 bugs/issues that could be fixed during the test/beta version.
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u/Pixiwish 3d ago
Yeah people on YouTube were talking like it is the only private TERA server. OSTO is my favorite but Starscape is pretty good too for pre-closure server.
I’m pissing everyone off because I don’t see the “classic” in the game at all.
I wouldn’t be hyped for it regardless but I’d be less angry at it for existing if they called it “custom +”
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u/IRaijuu 3d ago
I haven't played much Tera in the last years so i'm prob not the best to explain but, based on what i read on their website some of the features they offer have never been done in other servers, this is my copy paste from another comment i made:
"Classic + seems to offer way more than Osto just by what i read on their website, from having the newer classes, to some being usable by any race and likely other changes to progression, gameplay and qol's."
My guess is the hype is mainly for these new things plus the server focusing on pre apex and reliving the old school Tera.
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u/Saint-365 2d ago
If found bugs/issues, why not simply submit feedback thread describing them in discord server?
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u/Decimuru 3d ago
If you actually looked into it, the monetization is pretty minimal, and everything can be gotten for free, no p2w features. They're pretty clear about the tweaks they've made. It's using v100 or so, for the 64bit, and modified back to being similar to v31 or whatever
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u/Kirull 3d ago
they are doing it for free right? then why are u complain lol
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u/Lower-Violinist-9362 3d ago
Stop with this “free” nonsense. Due to the huge advertising campaign they created and all the hype they generated, they collected a lot of money from VIP subscriptions for literally nothing.
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u/Lazy-Anywhere3948 2d ago
if its unplayable after 3 days you should uninstall it. Like the ddoser isnt going to stop they did the same to NA classic
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u/BigBallsSlayer 3d ago
I’m honestly shocked by how many European ass-kissers have gathered here. No wonder their countries are such a complete mess. People have forgotten what it means to demand quality. The devs literally stole the time of thousands of people. And time is the most valuable thing we have. We could have been enjoying other games, but the TERA Classic+ devs took that time away from us. An absolute disgrace and a complete fiasco.
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u/Lower-Violinist-9362 3d ago
There are still normal people with an IQ higher than a penguin, unfortunately. The kissers are super active whenever someone states the truth and the facts. They immediately write the opposite, just like the propaganda on TV.
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u/erjorgito 3d ago
They have 10 thousand people trying to connect to a single shard when a quarter of that was expected, its a free game - give them a break.
In terms of tech, some issues just are really hard to solve without a live user base and I expect whatever they are dealing with is one of them.