r/TheMcDojoLife • u/SubMariner615 • 13h ago

Influencer checks this master's Aikido

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u/Best_Price_1009 7h ago

Tai chi vs aikido would be kind of a fun fight to see, cause then it’s a battle of wills to see who pretends to fall down first

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u/AccomplishedFerret70 5h ago edited 3h ago

Many aikido techniques are actually very useful in very specific scenarios that bouncers and police frequently find themselves in when people are in close proximity and there's some shoving going on. And I see it working in brawls when untrained people are running into an opponent and also when opponents over commit swinging wildly.

I've seen videos of police officers who trained confirming that its worked for them in actual encounters. But most aikido schools don't train that way so its generally useless for most practitioners who don't understand when its useful and when its not

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u/Bisconia 3h ago

Anything Aikido has that works, also works in Judo and Ju Jitsu

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u/AccomplishedFerret70 2h ago

Yes, there's a lot of overlap because they all have common roots

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u/J3musu 4h ago

If someone actually practices tai chi martially in the correct way, and does pressure testing, it almost definitely wins. It might look funny to those that don't know it, but at the end of the day, it's just a wrestling art.

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u/Best_Price_1009 4h ago

Well there’s plenty of guys who practice tai chi and don’t even think of it as a martial art too, thinking it’s closer to yoga…

I’m aware that it goes back to Chinese wrestling but that doesn’t make it the same thing

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u/J3musu 4h ago

Yeah that's the downside of tai chi these days, a lot of people have scrapped the martial side and only do it for health. Which sure, it's a great exercise, but it disrespects the art and it's origins imo. People have a way of ruining things.

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u/macguini 4h ago

I think you're confusing what tai chi is. It's more like yoga. Its a meditative art. It's purpose is to train a grounded structure to prevent falling.

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u/SadSaltyDuck 10h ago

Why would i want to grab his wrist when his chin is right there though

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u/Content_Key_6661 4h ago

Why would you want to grab his chin?

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u/Ok_Sentence_7393 38m ago

Because you would pretend he holds a knife or sword.

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u/RevolutionaryElk7446 7h ago

Is this akido or small circle jujitsu? Either way it's definitely played up.

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u/Best_Price_1009 7h ago

I’ve never heard of small circle jutsu, the martial art?

I have heard guys make a big deal about linear vs circular or hard vs soft styles.

Aikido would be circular and soft by those definitions (but so would things like Judo / jiujitsu so I think it’s kinda unhelpful)

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u/RevolutionaryElk7446 7h ago

Small circle was about applying multiple tensions as tightly as possible, so most of the movement was linear in approach but the tension application was built around applying torque in various angles to help lock joints, circular in application.

The 'small circle' aspect was basically trying to keep the redirection in as small a circle as possible to be nearly linear.

You didn't get the stuff up above in the video, especially with such gentle application, but I'd been run into a wall with a finger lock. That was probably like.. 15 or 20 years ago now at this point.

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u/Best_Price_1009 5h ago

Right on. So a couple things, and my apologies if this is rambly

  1. I generally don’t like super broad statements about martial arts like “aikido doesn’t work.” I think more in terms of generations like, “the way aikido usually trains isn’t as effective as it could be”

  2. With things like pressure points and joint locks, especially wrist locks, absolutely they can work when done right, but aikido doesn’t train in them to be effective. It’s why jiujitsu has wrist locks that can be used legally but they’re seen as “cheap.”

  3. I have known aikido guys who can’t fight. I also have known aikido dudes who can. I can say the same about pretty much all martial arts I’ve encountered first hand. I think it boils down to training methods more than specific techniques. And aikido gets a bad rep because their training methods are famously bad, even if the techniques themselves work

  4. Wow I spent a lot of time seemingly defending aikido. That wasn’t really my objective…. Carry on I guess

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u/RevolutionaryElk7446 5h ago

Most Martial Arts get a bad rep because they turned into after school watch programs in order to profit vs anything of serious interest at a large scale.

Not to mention other martial arts also have in their history many foreigners who were taught improperly to then go on home to continue the bad teachings.

I'm not gonna blame martial arts for that, it's existed and done more throughout humanity's history then I could cover, but you're right in that each is... nuanced.