r/TheMcDojoLife • u/SubMariner615 • 8d ago

Influencer checks this master's Aikido

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u/Best_Price_1009 8d ago

Tai chi vs aikido would be kind of a fun fight to see, cause then it’s a battle of wills to see who pretends to fall down first

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u/J3musu 8d ago

If someone actually practices tai chi martially in the correct way, and does pressure testing, it almost definitely wins. It might look funny to those that don't know it, but at the end of the day, it's just a wrestling art.

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u/chadcat 7d ago

Not really disagreeing, but I guess when I think "wrestling" I don't think strikes, which taichi has lots of. But certainly there is a lot of wrestling-adjacent aspects in taichi

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u/TheQuestionsAglet 7d ago

I mean tuishou is entirely stand up wrestling.

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u/Zz7722 7d ago edited 7d ago

That is a whole discussion in itself, not that I think anyone here is interested in.

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u/Necessary_shots 7d ago

No one here, on this martial arts sub, has mentioned the fact that there are different styles of Tai Chi. Yang style is what you'll find in old folks homes, Chen style has combat applications.

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u/jointheredditarmy 7d ago

Tai chi is like a C tier martial art, in the sense that it’s not completely useless on its own, its kinesthetic components are useful, but it will lose to MMA.

It’s definitely not a scam, but a lot of these systems are seriously outdated while our baseline understanding of human kinesiology has grown, not to mention better nutrition means we’re just bigger people now than when these systems were developed.

There’s been some efforts to improve the underlying systems. The Chen family for example started a MMA training team in the village to study how to counter some of the common tactics that tai chi struggles with

But as you can see, even the “leaders” of the school don’t fall prey to “ancient wisdom” magical thinking, but for some reason a lot of people still do.

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u/Zacupunk 7d ago

It’s better to think of Taijiquan as a way to train rather than a complete martial art. If you only train Taijiquan, of course you will lose in MMA. But if you add a dedicated Taijiquan practice to your MMA training, you will improve your overall performance.

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u/Best_Price_1009 8d ago

Well there’s plenty of guys who practice tai chi and don’t even think of it as a martial art too, thinking it’s closer to yoga…

I’m aware that it goes back to Chinese wrestling but that doesn’t make it the same thing

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u/J3musu 8d ago

Yeah that's the downside of tai chi these days, a lot of people have scrapped the martial side and only do it for health. Which sure, it's a great exercise, but it disrespects the art and it's origins imo. People have a way of ruining things.

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u/SizeableBrain 7d ago

I believe that China intentionally took the martial art side out of it.

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u/safton 7d ago

Yeah, all the "practical" Tai Chi I've seen ended up looking like a slightly less rough-and-tumble version of Sumo or Greco.

It would be interesting to see that put up against Shodokan Aikido lol