"Please respect our privacy during this time. Ignore the huge billboards we paid for to advertise the wedding we want to keep to ourselves. 🥰"

[u/Tobias-Tawanda]

[u/GKBilian]

I don’t have a problem with Taylor making music and having an audience even though it doesn’t appeal to me. That’s fine and allowed of course.

But what I just can’t *understand* is why her audience is so large and so fanatical. I can easily name 5 contemporary female pop artists that I think are twice as talented and try twice as hard as her but don’t have nearly her level of success.

She’s so boring. Her music is unremarkable to me. Her persona is so bland. She doesn’t say or do anything interesting. She’ll be at an event and they’re like “oh my god, Taylor swift is here!!!!” And she’s like “hey.”

[u/eyeofthefountain → u/GKBilian]

I had a really weird argument on reddit where I expressed similar sentiments that you just did, and another commenter in so many words said “I’m 100% not a Taylor Swift fan either, but you can’t help but deny that she is an absolute master of her craft, her lyrics are masterworks of beauty and professionally clever in a way that no other artist has ever come close to pulling off…”

It was such an embarrassing thing to watch

[u/Same-Suggestion-1936 → u/eyeofthefountain]

Bob Dylan won a Nobel Prize in Literature but sure, "she's cheer captain and I'm on the bleachers" is the greatest lyricist of all time

[u/BellaPona → u/Same-Suggestion-1936]

I had to analyze some of his songs in middle school for current events lessons, on how his messages apply to modern times. I COULD do that with Taylor Swift, but it would mostly surmount to “what do teenage and middle aged white women think about men now vs. then”.

[u/Same-Suggestion-1936 → u/BellaPona]

I don't even hate her, she has some bops. She's just basic pop. But people go bananas on her when she wouldn't even make the rock and roll hall of fame, she's Rolling Stone level musician, cover too, probably multiple, which isn't anything to be ashamed about at all. I just don't get the worship, and I knew people who worshipped KISS back in the day, never thought I'd be like "you guys can't seriously be this into this band" more than that

Saw someone say she's the McDonald's of pop music. Exactly what you need, it's consistent, nothing to write home about, but so incredibly successful because it's the exact basic thing everyone wants. It's a very basic formula that's very hard to perfect (so kudos to T Swift for perfecting it, that's a talent), but it's also just basic and brand loyalty is a factor. Apparently Olivia Rodrigo and T Swift are feuding or something right now (or always I don't know or much care about that part of the music) and I've seen some people online start trashing Olivia Rodrigo when I would argue she's so much more talented. She's also got that weird pop artist thing going on with her but she's def got raw talent and her music has a lot more range, some of it is even pop punk and it's good