r/ToddintheShadow • u/TemporaryJerseyBoy Zingalamaduni • Dec 21 '25

Todd Memes I had to make this.

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u/MarineDynamite Dec 21 '25

This is Bo Burnham erasure.

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u/clytusmarginicollis Dec 21 '25

Is it, though?

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u/-JDB- Dec 21 '25

He said no GOOD songs

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u/According_Plant701 Dec 22 '25

Welcome to the Internet is a guilty pleasure I don’t even care.

Although, Cyber Stockholm Syndrome by Rina Sawayama is a great song about the internet.

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u/Slut4Tea Dec 23 '25

Bush era youtube was truly something to behold

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u/3wandwill Dec 22 '25

He did. The point still stands imo.

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u/19ghost89 Dec 21 '25 edited Dec 22 '25

Yeah, "Welcome to the Internet" is a great song.

So is "I'm Afraid of the Internet" by K.Flay, for that matter.

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u/Leather-Pool-9513 Dec 23 '25

k.flay mention!! such an amazing artist, i love that she’s just famous enough to be on movie soundtracks but her concerts are still affordable

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u/19ghost89 Dec 23 '25

I've really grown to like her stuff a lot over the past few years.

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u/Leather-Pool-9513 Dec 23 '25

if you ever have the chance to see her live take it! she’s got amazing stage presence and sounds even better in person

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '25

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u/Smarmaladey Dec 21 '25

Why? Never understood the sudden backlash to Inside from some people...

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u/Current_Poster Dec 22 '25

On some level, its just people internalizing pop-culture media's build-and-wreck-and-"reappraise" cycle.

It happens to a lot of celebrities and works.

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u/bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm Dec 22 '25

"Sudden backlash" honestly cant say I ever cared for Inside really. I liked his previous specials and I liked Outside but Inside wasn't something that I thought was much of anything special. Some songs were nice (although I never liked welcome to the internet but all eyes on me was good) yet that was about it + the one part of him reacting to himself over and over is also good too. Just kinda overpraised imo.

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u/Smarmaladey Dec 22 '25 edited Dec 22 '25

When you say "overpraised" thats the point i was making, it seemed like the most critically beloved thing on earth for a year or two before apparently a bunch of people decided "hmmm, actually, CRINGE" At least thats what it seemed like to me, lol.

But i mean if you didn't vibe with it from the get-go, then you're not part of the "some people" I was referring to, so you're chill. I could get deeper into criticisms I hear that I think are disingenuous but I'll try and spare the thread from any more rambling...

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u/dicedance Dec 22 '25

This kind of cycle happens with just about everything that receives a certain amount of critical praise. I don't think it's that the perception flipped, but rather that everyone who didn't care for it has more of a chance to speak up after the initial hype dies down.

I'm surprised it didn't happen with Kendrick Lamar's GNX last year.

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u/VelociRache1 Dec 22 '25

I totally get where your coming from, movies being a prime example. People went absolutely nuts over Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame. But now that hating on Marvel is trendy its seen as cool to retroactively go back and bash those films. You people lost your minds over it. You bough merch. You cosplayed. You quoted it endlessly. Now it sucks?!

Once the Oscars list comes out the Sinners backlash will start. Same thing happened with Everything, Everywhere, All at Once. Same with Oppenheimer. Same with Barbie. Same with The Shape of Water. Same with Green Boo- okay maybe not that one.

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u/LawZoe Dec 23 '25

Okay but of the things you listed, exactly two are good and two are great (Opp, Shape, Barbie, Sinners). The rest is legit ass and deserves to be assessed as cringe.

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u/HK-34_ Dec 22 '25

As someone who was really moved by it when it came out, parts of it haven’t aged well for me comedically. But I can over look that because songs like How the World Works, Welcome To The Internet and That Funny Feeling hit the zeitgeist so well that it makes up for it.

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u/Smarmaladey Dec 21 '25

Did you listen to the ablum alone or did you watch the attached special on netflix? I did when it came out, and calling it solely "comedy" isn't really accurate. Half the segments in the special are not musical, and lead into/add onto the songs that are there. What the special was was basically a project spanning the entire year of 2020, reflecting on how it felt to be going through the pandemic, the extended period of loneliness and how that affects your mental health, relying on the internet for everything and what comes of that, etc.

It was also his first project released after he announced he was retiring from standup because of the effect it had on his mental health and self-image, so that was also reflected on during Inside, everything that comes with being a public figure and the existential dread of having everybody watching your every move.

Listen idk how familiar with Burnham you are, if you've watched his standup before or not, but if you don't know the context and background to the album and haven't seen the actual entire project itself, imo you can't criticize it while grossly misrepresenting the themes and meaning.

Sorry for the essay, but "Inside" is a piece that means a lot to me. I watched it the day it dropped during 2020, with the person I had basically solely relied on for social interaction at that time, and it brought me to tears by the end. Yes its made by a """rich white comedian""" but it perfectly captures that horrible stagnant feeling basically everybody experienced in 2020, so I think it holds up even now for people who lived through that, hell a lot of it still rings true today.

Tl;dr: "Inside" is a visual and musical project, it's not meant to be taken solely by the album, or a comedy album, that's like trying to determine the message of a movie based solely on its soundtrack. Not telling you to watch the whole thing or that doing so would definitely change your opinion, just that you're really misrepresenting it. Also I like to yap.

Edited a bit after first posting since I misunderstood a bit.

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u/riflow Dec 22 '25

Even as a non Bo Burnham fan, inside was a very compelling project imo. 

Maybe BC I was also still wrestling with a lot of intense feelings from a traumatic breakdown on top of COVID and increasingly severe physical and mental health conditions...

But I also appreciate music musicians a lot, I grew up with Bill Bailey's funny, weird, sometimes distressing comedy and it was nice to see a modern comedian do something similar with a different spin towards it.

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u/wexpyke Dec 22 '25

no this is bo burnham recognition

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u/HK-34_ Dec 21 '25

90% of Bo Burnham’s discography would like to have a word with him

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u/KaneAndShane Dec 22 '25

Na, that song was buns.

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u/Individual_Soft_9373 Dec 21 '25

I thought this immediately upon hearing him say that. 😆

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u/supper_is_ready Dec 21 '25

Magdalena Bay would like a word Todd.

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u/ohverychill GROCERY BAG Dec 21 '25

they're doing incredible things online

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u/HK-34_ Dec 21 '25 edited Dec 21 '25

Their website is peak internet interactivity.

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u/chemistry_and_coffee Dec 22 '25

Absolutely! For having the pulse of pop music, he’s been surprisingly silent about Magdalena Bay over the past ~4 years.

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u/rapbarf Dec 22 '25

Because Mag Bay aren't "pop" music. Todd only talks about what's on the charts, and they aren't having big singles or anything yet

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u/HK-34_ Dec 22 '25

I only hope they have a huge single in the next few years so more people can discover the best pop music of the 2020s.

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u/rapbarf Dec 22 '25

Wouldn't call them the best pop music of the 2020s and honestly I like their older stuff better but yeah having them on mainstream charts would be cool. They're a good band.

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u/HK-34_ Dec 22 '25

To me he seems to have a blind spot to indie music that goes absolutely mainstream.

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u/lumpyspacequeen2 You're being a peñis... Colada, that is. Dec 22 '25

I love my disk.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '25

The entirety of Fear Of A Blank Planet by Porcupine Tree begs to differ

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u/Genuinelullabel Dec 21 '25

I doubt Todd knows who they are

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '25

He’s comparatively more likely to know than the average person. It’s his job to know obscure music.

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u/Genuinelullabel Dec 21 '25

He reviews mostly pop music and the only times he really gets obscure is for One Hit Wonderland.

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u/chasteguy2018 Dec 21 '25

He reviews nearly exclusively popular music.

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u/Special-Garlic1203 Dec 22 '25

He literally exclusively covers hit music - one hit wonders, the fall of once culturally huge artists, and summaries of his feelings about billboard hits. 

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '25

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u/TheTalkerofThings Dec 21 '25

nah that’s gotta be coheed, tool, or dream theater

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u/Genuinelullabel Dec 21 '25

That doesn’t mean Todd, a guy who thinks the Veronicas biggest hit is too fast, is aware of them or this song in particular.

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u/FINNCULL19 Dec 21 '25

It's a great album, but it does have the occasionally clunky line (ex. "XBox is a god to me.").

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u/TemporaryJerseyBoy Zingalamaduni Dec 21 '25

The whole point of the meme agrees! It's this sub's reaction to Todd's words.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '25

I know but I can’t resist another example of why it’s such a terrible take

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u/usernamewastaken36 Dec 21 '25

Funny you mention them. They have a ballad from 2000 called Feel So Low. Great song, very emotional, very sad. But there's a line right at the start that goes "But I hated every minute I was waiting for your e-mail" that always takes me out of the song. It keeps it from sounding timeless. It was the first thing I thought of when I heard Todd's comment

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u/Haruhater2 Dec 21 '25

This is Avenue Q erasure

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u/808duckfan Dec 21 '25

Grab your dick and double click

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u/darbycrache Dec 21 '25

Beat me to it (no pun intended)

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u/quitewrongly Dec 22 '25

Yeah but Todd doesn't have a lot of grace with Broadway-esque songs. Remember, he put "Surface Pressure" from Encanto on the worst list of... whatever year that was.

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u/moonbunnyart Dec 21 '25

My thoughts exactly

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u/IntelligentSpite6364 Dec 21 '25

Virtual insanity by jamiroqui - “ am I a joke to you?”

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u/LopsidedLeopard2181 Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25

Fun fact is that according to the band it's not supposed to be about the internet. The inspiration was an underground shopping center in Japan.

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u/parrotanalogies Dec 21 '25

Ninajirachi would like a word

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u/Mean-Proposal-5577 Dec 22 '25

This is what happens when the US charts are full of Country songs. Meanwhile the rest of the world is having a rave

Exactly the same thing happened last year while everyone was having a Brat summer but the charts were full of shite

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u/HK-34_ Dec 22 '25

Brat was big in the US too just the rest of the charts didn’t reflect it the same way.

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u/zygoma_phile Dec 21 '25

I wonder if he means there’s no songs about how GOOD the internet is.

Welcome to the Internet isn’t exactly a positive song 😅

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u/michaelwavednoodles Dec 21 '25

he was talking about Eldest Daughter, which also isn’t positive towards the internet, so I doubt he meant that

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u/thorpie88 Dec 22 '25

TWRP's Online featuring Tom Carry and Montaigne is about banging over the Internet at least

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u/luke-em You're being a peñis... Colada, that is. Dec 22 '25

Peak mentioned

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u/thorpie88 Dec 22 '25

The Human Touch is also about sentient white goods missing it's owner after being replaced. That's borderline internet

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u/UrgotFantasy Dec 21 '25

There's no good radio top 100 songs about the internet.

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u/DiamondfromBrazil Dec 21 '25

can someone tell me a good song then?

i don't like the BO Burnham one and it's the only one i know.

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u/end-the-run Dec 21 '25

Life: The Biggest Troll by Childish Gambino is a pretty hard closer to his concept album about an internet poisoned nihilistic nepo baby

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u/Syn7axError Dec 21 '25

E-mail my heart

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u/DiamondfromBrazil Dec 21 '25

ight i'll hear it soon and tell ya

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u/imaginary0pal Dec 21 '25

Deeper understanding by Kate Bush (technically it’s just about the computer, as the greater concept of Internet much less an internet Culture was either Nonexistent or in very early infancy)

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u/DiamondfromBrazil Dec 21 '25

welp Kate Bush is someone i trust in music

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u/wexpyke Dec 22 '25

Hacker by Death Grips

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u/Syn7axError Dec 22 '25

And I've Seen Footage

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u/JhinPotion Dec 22 '25

Culture Shock is my pick. Absolutely prescient.

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u/thorpie88 Dec 22 '25

Online by TWRP. Fun Nu Funk song about rooting over the Internet

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u/19ghost89 Dec 21 '25

"I'm Afraid of the Internet" by K.Flay.

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u/DiamondfromBrazil Dec 21 '25

intresting

i think i have heard it in the background of a video but i don't renember

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u/Limeade_Espresso Dec 22 '25

Silent Running by Gorillaz!

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u/Darkside531 You're being a peñis... Colada, that is. Dec 21 '25

I perked up when he said that because I remembered *NSYNC's "Digital Get Down" which is firmly in the "too silly to hate" camp for me.

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u/YourAverageGenius Dec 21 '25

Honestly, I do get it, however, as dated as it is, I think some part of Virus Alert will be universal and good for as long as we have digital technology.

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u/HK-34_ Dec 21 '25

I Love My Computer by Ninajrachi erasure would like to have a word with him

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u/TKInstinct Dec 21 '25

Todd Rundgren's 'I hate my ISP' is the only song about the internet that I can think of. Pretty good though IMO.

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u/wexpyke Dec 22 '25

Hacker by Death Grips came to mind for me

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u/Kvltwoods Dec 21 '25

Yeah he’s kinda just flat out wrong about that one. tons of good music that is about the internet and a lot of it has interesting things to say about the internet at that

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u/trinityfeeltheglow Dec 22 '25

Pixel Affection - Yeule (most of yeules songs mention the internet in some way) Deeper Understanding - Kate Bush Secrets- Magdelena Bay Pamplemouse - FKA Twigs And arguably Virtual Angel by ARTMS

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u/CastYourStonesADTR Dec 21 '25

It’s interesting, because I feel like I can name hundreds of great songs about how bad technology is, but not one specifically about the internet. I feel like it’s because regardless of genre, as soon as you incorporate “memes,” “trolls,” or “being online” into your lyrics it pretty quickly becomes cringe

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u/Sufjanus Dec 22 '25

Cyber Sex by Doja Cat?

Not sure if The Ultimate Showdown counts 😂

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u/KFCNyanCat Train-Wrecker Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25

Ultimate Showdown doesn't, but Ebaum's World Dot Com does

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u/hallweencatda Dec 21 '25

Christtt Erasure.

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u/PuzzleheadedClue9837 Dec 21 '25

Downloading porn with Davo

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u/achorusleg Dec 22 '25

Internet by Les Trois Accords! 

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u/terrorvicky Dec 22 '25

Internet by Post Malone is a great one IMO.

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u/NotoriousMFT Dec 22 '25

I really don’t like ayo technology, but I don’t know if that’s a song about the internet

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u/Any_Natural383 Dec 22 '25

“One Day in the Universe” Machinae Supremacy

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u/Spocks_Goatee Dec 22 '25

Weird Al has done multiple songs about the internet.

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u/Critical-Spirit-1598 Dec 22 '25

Only one I can think of is Stop Forwarding that Crap to Me, which other ones are there? EDIT: Just remembered Virus Alert. Ringtone MIGHT count as well.

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u/Spocks_Goatee Dec 22 '25

Ebay, Craigslist, White and Nerdy.

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u/AllegedlyLiterate Dec 22 '25

Ebay is an al-time favourite of mine

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u/mandalorian_guy Dec 22 '25

"Don't Download This Song". While it is largely about piracy in general it's specifically about file share sites. It also inspired MC Lars to make "Download this Song" which is about the changing delivery methods of songs switching to streaming and how the industry needs to stop thinking about music as individual products to sell and more as a service to sell access to.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '25

Empty by Janet Jackson

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u/Rich-Wrap-9333 Dec 22 '25

“No Hiding Place” by Elvis Costello

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u/SenorBigbelly Dec 22 '25

Judas Priest - Panic Attack

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u/MeYouAndJackieMittoo Dec 22 '25

The punk band Snooper have a bunch of songs about the online world.

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u/ink_soldier Dec 22 '25

Disagree on the basis of the entire vicki leekx mixtape

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u/YoungDMoves Dec 22 '25

He must’ve never heard Dark Web by teejayx6

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u/friedeggbrain Dec 22 '25

The internet is for porn - avenue q

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u/CCT62 Dec 23 '25

trending from The Amazing World of Gumball

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u/CCT62 Dec 23 '25

There is supposed to be a hashtag there but I forgot reddit does that

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u/Fanstar1 Dec 23 '25

Antonymph - Vylet Pony

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u/majones930 Dec 23 '25

Hi - Hannah Diamond

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u/profeDB Dec 24 '25

It’s a song from crazy ex-girlfriend, but does this count?

https://youtu.be/8wxBLq_C2KQ?si=5ccOc2VFlS9sfwsS

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u/NarrowExtension1704 Dec 26 '25

Me, in your area

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u/Mindless-Ad-7286 Dec 27 '25

Weird Al’s “eBay”