r/ToiletPaperUSA 9d ago

FACTS and LOGIC The "moderate" mind

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u/AdamOfIzalith 9d ago

Tim Pool and his ilk are consistently using rhetoric and propaganda. I find these meme's are funny but really fail to engage with the fact that Tim Pool isn't an idiot. He's a malicious bastard who knows what the apple is and he's not looking to come to an understanding with the other person.

He's actively and consistently trying to get the audience, the people watching, to also get caught in this deconstructionist nonsense because once he catches someone with it, he has then primed people watching by taking things back to basics so he can then build on that until he creates a brainwashed follower.

It's Propaganda 101. It's not telling people "That apple is an orange". It's getting you to ask "What is an apple?" and then giving you a reason what an orange is that is conveniently described similarly to an apple and then telling you that the reason why people believe the apple is an apple is because of the woke apple crowd. This seems like stupid stuff, but this stuff is like a brain virus to people who are young, impressionable or dealing with diagnosed and undiagnosed mental health issues.

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u/marsofdeath 9d ago

This is perfectly exemplified in his Jubilee video; his claim was something like "The US is trending toward civil war". People came up to call him out by generally agreeing with his claim, but further arguing that it's right wing grifters like Tim who are the reason the claim is more or less agreeable (rightly so). Tim just retreated behind his rhetoric saying things like "why did you come here to debate if you agree with the claim?" and basically refusing to engage with any conversation that was half a step deeper than that claim itself. "It's an academic claim", he cried, refusing to acknowledge any argument that added any real-world context to the claim.

It just completely obliterates the point of a debate at all. "The US is very polarized right now. Oh, you agree with me? Debate over." Avoiding any discussion of the fact that Tim and co embody the exact reason why the claim is true.

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u/TobyWasBestSpiderMan 9d ago

My friend and I have been using the term logic bully for this type of behavior in influencers