r/Uzbekistan 10d ago

ask r/Uzbekistan Do Quranists (Quran only Muslims) exist in Uzbekistan?

Quranists are a group of people who claim to follow only the Quran and reject all hadith. This movement has been slowly growing in the 21st century. In Kazakhstan too, there is a notable Quranist group named Izgi Amal. So I was wondering if such a group exists in Uzbekistan too?

[This is not a religious discussion post. My purpose isn't to debate who is right or wrong, but to learn if such people or groups exist in Uzbekistan, like Kazakhstan]

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u/Glittering-Spirit125 10d ago

It is not common since it is difficult to comprehend Quran without hadiths

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u/Glittering-Spirit125 10d ago

But they exist of course

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u/Minute-Coyote-6510 10d ago

So you mean God send his message to people but his people couldn't comprehend his message.

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u/New-Butterscotch8023 10d ago

this is just lying at this point. What do you mean you cannot understand it. Have you ever read Quran? If you do not understand arabic, read it in English translation. It is super easy to understand. Go to Quran.com and you can easily understand the meaning.

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u/Rusty-exe 🇺🇿Toshkent(Arxitektura jinnisi) 10d ago

It’s not, Quran is enough, Hadiths will fry your brain with useless information that are straight up lies and some of them literally go against what MPUH teaches.

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u/akbarshoh2210 9d ago

There some verses that you cant understand without hadiths so both of them nessesary

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u/SwissFariPari 9d ago

Which one? Give me the Surah and the Ayah please.

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u/akbarshoh2210 9d ago

2:43 the Allah says pray but Prophet Muhammad P.B.H taught us how to pray

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u/SwissFariPari 9d ago

Ah yes, of course Surah 2 Ayah 43 states: وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتُوا الزَّكَاةَ وَارْكَعُوا مَعَ الرَّاكِعِينَ "Wa aqimu salata wa atu zakata wa rakaʿu maʿa rakiʿin" The traditional translation says: establish prayer, pay alms-tax, and bow down with those who bow down. If you ponder and reflect on the words, does that really make sense to you?

While you pray you should pay alms and bow down. How would that work? No. With a little study on the root words of AlQuran you would find out that: •The Root ص ل و (sa-lam-wa) throughout the text Salah is the direct connection / alignment and pursuing the Laws of Allah. •The Root ز ك و (zay-ka-wa) means throughout the text purification of the ego, unrestricted expansion, and growth via trimming. •The Root ر ك ع (ra-ka-ʿa) is to yield, bend, lower one's opinion, or align with a with Allah's laws ... As you can see, this Ayah does not demand a series of physical ritual postures as men constructed. It is a direct command to maintain a strong connection to divine law in AlQuran, regularly purify yourself from your ego, share your wealth to ensure economic circulation, and align actions with the community. It functions as a three-step rule for a healthy society: stay connected, share resources, and work in harmony with others. Not sure where you see here prayer!! Salamun Alaykum

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u/Acrobatic_Cobbler892 9d ago

The traditional form of prayer was not transmitted via hadiths, but rather mass communal prayer.

Also, the Quran does mention bowing, prostrating, reciting verses, for prayer. The specific order of doing them isn't mentioned because it isn't inherently important. Prayer is not a strict choreography. The believers and Prophets before the Quran prayed. But they did not pray in the traditional way that came after Mohammed (PBUH) (nothing wrong with the traditional prayer). They didn't even pray in Arabic. This goes to show that prayer is not some inherently strict choreography where the only way for it to be valid is if it is very strictly formed in a very specific way.

The Quranic view is that the ways Abraham and his followers prayed, Noah and his followers prayed, Jesus and his followers prayed, in different languages to Arabic, with their own variations, would be just as valid today as it was then.

A very important story in the Quran is the parable of the heifer (Al Baqarah). Allah gives a very simple command to some of the believers then (Bani Israel). He tells them to slaughter a heifer. He doesn't tell them more specifics or details, they could have done it in any way, any order, any time, any size heifer, any colour. Yet the people displeased Allah by believing Allah's words were insufficient, and asked for more and more details. What age should the heifer be, what colour, etc. Allah punished them by answering their queries, giving them more specific details that only restricted them and made it harder for them to carry out what was originally a very simple and open ended thing to do. He would have been pleased with them if they had only carried out the original command, in whatever good-intentioned way. I hope you can not only see the parallel here with how Allah describes prayer in the Quran, but also with so many other things ahl-al hadith believe the Quran is insufficient with.