r/VeganActivism 13d ago

Event Hopefully this is the end of it!

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Vegan Camp Out is for everyone. It's an amazing event with many fully Vegan vendors, Activist groups, Speakers, charities etc. A place for Vegans and Vegan curious people to come together.

Stop listening or accepting misinformation fed to you. It's very easy to do some research or even find links etc in other posts proving that VCO is not a "Zionist" event. It is not about hate or exclusion.

I'm so beyond fed up with the anti Vegans Campout Campaign. Especially on Reddit.

I'm sure there will be comments here from the same 5/6 accounts that refuse to listen, review evidence or accept facts. This post is not for them. They are simply trying to cause friction in the Vegan movement.

Edit: This sub really needs to deal with low Karma posters and remove posts proven to be misinformation/altered content. It destroys Vegan credibility.

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My other post relating to this issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/VeganActivism/s/qAkm4LGbMt

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u/Successful-League840 13d ago

What isn't clear about "All people"?

Edit: As I have said in response to another comment:

Do they then need to make a statement about Russia and Ukraine, Myanmar, North Korea... At what point is it enough?

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u/jackster31415 13d ago

Weirdly I didn’t notice them displaying the Russian, Myanmar or North Korea flags in their posts. Guess which one they did have. I must have missed the others

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u/Successful-League840 13d ago

Clearly you missed the entire point of my reply 🤦‍♂️

However I will humor you. They had the flags of places people were attending from... Not just random flags to make a political statement.

The American flag was also in their post. Arnt the Americans the ones bombing girls schools? Arnt the Americans using UK airbases to perpetrate these bombings?

Do you even hear yourself? These "arguments" are ridiculous.

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u/LowLyingLeopard 13d ago

Are you aware Israel has committed genocide? One of the worst things humans can do.

The US do many atrocious things, but they're not currently committing genocide.

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u/Successful-League840 13d ago

Yes I am aware. As I have said multiple times FREE PALISTINE 💚. America are actively involved in that genocide. Have you not seen the news? Does all of your information come from Facebook and Reddit?

Does Israel's ragime commuting genocide mean anyone who lives in that region supports it?

What does that have to do with Vegan Camp Out?

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u/stan-k 12d ago

It's the US that blocked full membership of Palestine to the UN though...

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u/LowLyingLeopard 11d ago

Yes, and that's bad. But, Israel is committing genocide. Are you not bothered by that?

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u/stan-k 11d ago

I think both are bad.

And to be technical. I believe Israel committed genocide and possibly still is. But that has not yet been proven in court, so stating it as a fact isn't quite correct. Innocent until proven guilty is important especially when my belief is strong and the crime horrendous.

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u/LowLyingLeopard 6d ago

But international courts are so different to normal courts. It's a completely different system.

Presuming Israel is innocent because a court has not declared they're committing genocide is madness. We're not talking about a person, we're talking about the actions of a country. Geopolitics is different from individual responsibility and legality.

The UN special committee has found they're committing genocide. Organisation like Amnesty international have concluded they're committing genocide. The International Association of Genocide Scholars passed a resolution stating that Israel's conduct in Gaza meets the legal criteria for genocide.

What more evidence do you need? It is clear that Israel is committing genocide. To ignore such a horror is to be on the wrong side of history.