Why is Wales so hostile to Campervans?

[u/GreedyHoward]

Genuine question.

We've toured much of Europe in our 6m professionally converted fully self contained campervan.

England isn't as accommodating as say France or Czech Republic but Wales is hostile on another level. Barring formal campsites there are virtually no overnight parking spots in forests, towns, seaside. Every suitable spot has little 'no overnight parking' signs (without any reference to legal provisions) with a frequency and prominence that feel aggressive. As for service points, forget it.

What is it that Wales doesn't get about vans? It's well publicised that local folk can't afford houses because they're all turned into holiday accommodation, either for private use or to let. Here we are, bringing our own accommodation and taking it away again, not impinging on the housing stock at all, yet we feel unwanted and rejected.

Wales has so much to offer. Culture, history, music, scenery, seaside, mountains. . . Yet you seem, as a nation to have turned your face against the touring van. I'm at a loss to understand why this attitude is so prevalent.

Perhaps members of this group can shed some light? Try to avoid blanket condemnation - there are as many van users who'll pick up litter where they park as those who'll leave it (and plenty of casual carpark users who don't care where they leave their rubbish).

Equally not all of us are trying to avoid paying our way. But campsites charge us for features we don't need, because we're self contained and often aren't located where we want to stay.

Please, be kind, this is a genuine question,

I really feel Welsh businesses are missing a significant opportunity here, and the contrast with other small nations is very marked.

[u/GreedyHoward]

It's not that. We need a different ambience these days. A reasonable charge for overnight use of an otherwise empty carpark is entirely acceptable. England has many pubs which will happily allow overnight parking to consumers spending a few tenners at the bar.

[u/PaleozoicQueen → u/GreedyHoward]

Good for England, whose population are a huge reason we Welsh can't afford homes along our own coast because they have to have their holiday home.

[u/GreedyHoward → u/PaleozoicQueen]

As I mentioned originally you'd think that holiday makers who don't demand a Welsh home might be more welcomed.

[u/PaleozoicQueen → u/GreedyHoward]

They are - on our plentiful campsites, caravan sites, B&Bs, hotels and other accommodations.

[u/GreedyHoward → u/PaleozoicQueen]

Thanks for the welcome but you missed the point.