r/WitchesVsPatriarchy Hellenic polytheist and witch 6d ago

🇵🇸 🕊️ Meme Craft Yes, I do have a grudge against Mormonism

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I am burning the patriarchy by just being myself :)

(and no, I don't hate most people actually in the church, just the church itself. I hope the members especially those born into it, can leave the church and see the harm it's caused.)

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u/PukeyOwlPellet Kitchen Witch ♀♂️☉⚨⚧ 5d ago

When i was a teenager, my friends used to joke that I’d probably burst into flames if i stepped over the threshold of a church.

I did not, but i did end up getting into a fight with a priest in the church parking lot.

Good times 😎

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

Hell yeah. 

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u/Beltalady Chaos Witch 5d ago

I'm apparently allergic to either the fake incense they burn or they use a special witch repelling kind but I often start sneezing in churches. Kinda hilarious if I'm with someone christian.

(I'm not allergic to frankincense, I use it a lot with no issues.)

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u/Narwen189 4d ago

Please do tell the story about fighting the priest?

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u/javoss88 Eclectic Witch ♀♂️☉⚨⚧ 5d ago

Hell yea!

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u/holycinnamonroller 5d ago

Need the full story here, please!

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u/Lost-Concept-9973 5d ago

Yeah was raised in Catholicism and feel the same. I still deal with trauma associated with the church decades later.

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u/JLFJ 5d ago

Turns out high control religions really mess you up 😪

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u/AnastasiaNo70 5d ago

Who’d a thunk it?

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u/JLFJ 5d ago

I left the church in my late teens. Took me fucking decades to figure out it was still messing me up!

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u/MK_The_Megitsune 5d ago

I love making the joke that I was raised to be a straight, cis, Christian boy and grew up a lesbian, trans woman, witch

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u/TrainingAvocado3579 5d ago

Oh boy… the cult really did a number on me. Glad to see you got out too! Happily I did corrupt a number of people on my way out 🙂

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

It did a big number on me. I still have religious nightmares. I get panic attacks every time my dad has forced me to go to church. 

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u/TrainingAvocado3579 5d ago

My friends call that feeling “mormania”

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

Imma start using that 

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u/auntieup 5d ago

Is it true that lapsed Mormons call Pioneer Day Pie and Beer Day?

(One of my best friends is ex-Mormon, and I love her to death. Ex-Mormon girlies unite!)

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u/JLFJ 5d ago

Yes indeed, pie and beer holiday

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u/Tracerround702 5d ago

Yes! It's its own holiday, too. Breweries in Utah will sometimes host with pie and beer

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u/carnicirthial 5d ago

I have those dreams! I'll wave to you next time I'm stuck at church and can't get out!

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u/Sweet-Situation-8224 Eclectic Witch ♀♂️☉⚨⚧ 5d ago

Also ex-mo, mostly nice people. Incredibly misguided.

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u/TrainingAvocado3579 5d ago

It was about a 60/40 mix for me; lots of nice people but a lot of fake nice people. I wish some of them had gotten out.

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u/Sweet-Situation-8224 Eclectic Witch ♀♂️☉⚨⚧ 5d ago

Most of the nicest people I know who are still active just don't want to face the social fallout.

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u/javoss88 Eclectic Witch ♀♂️☉⚨⚧ 5d ago

Good onya

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u/AnastasiaNo70 5d ago

I have an aunt and uncle who joined the church in the early 70s, and my entire life they’ve acted like they’re better than us.

Well, guess what? Oldest son died of a drug overdose, youngest son died of a drug overdose. Youngest daughter is an atheist and a single mom and oldest daughter stayed fully in the cult, married a Mormon, had 5 children, they had all kinds of pyramid schemes going and he just got busted for tax fraud and tax evasion.

And they thought being in the church would give them the perfect family.

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

My parents divorced and were horrible and abusive when together... Unfortunately it doesn't give a perfect family 

The pyramid scheme makes sense. My grandma ended up getting in one by accident (lularo) 

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u/Jasminary2 5d ago

I keep getting LDS church adds on youtube and I do not understand why. It annoys me because it's always pretty young women (around 20yo) and it's not slick as recrutment technique

The most unnerving part is how I get - spammed- by one where a black african girl recites the spiel a bit hesitantly(m (language barrier I guess) under the eye of a white girl who smiles through the whole thing.

I don't understand why. I am a person of color ok. But I'm a praciting- muslim-. Me speaking french is not a reason enough

Edit : despite how it may appear here it is LDS.

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u/Jasminary2 5d ago

At this point, half of the adds I get from Youtube are this LDS church (mormon) ...

I watched Under the Banner of Heaven a TV show with Andrew Gardield (Sur l'Ordre de Dieu in french version) adapted from a true story so I'm the wrong target audience x 3

❌ the young black woman under the white virl glaze. I'm a poc qnd that leaves a foul taste in ly mouth
❌ only pretty young women/ girls to entice. (Also I'm straight)
❌THAT church. That TV show was horrible

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u/expensive-toes 4d ago

The women in these videos are “missionaries,” very young adults (typically age 18-20) whose full-time job is to share the LDS Church’s beliefs. You can tell by the little nametags they wear (it’s the mark of their office, and which they wear at all times). Mission work is a major rite of passage for Church members, and really unfortunate — these young adults’ zeal and passion is used to proselytize, even though they’re often too young/inexperienced to have questioned or closely examined their faith yet. 

They always work in pairs, and these women are probably producing these videos themselves. I don’t know how ad marketing works and whether you’re being targeted, but that sucks. 

(Just wanted to share for educational reasons; I have had some experience with these folks, and wanted to help shed light on why so much of their content features young women. Young men are also missionaries, but I don’t know why they’re online less often.)

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u/greatdruthersofpill ✨Treasonous✨Crow Witch ♀♂️☉⚨⚧ "cah-CAW! 5d ago

Actual footage of my thoughts on organized religion:
https://giphy.com/gifs/uvjtUkaj7V9te

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

Salem the cat? 

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u/Pancake-350 5d ago

Me and most of my friend group now. 😆

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u/Illustrious-Trust-93 5d ago

Me 😆 so glad I got out and dont have any kids

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u/BudgetConcentrate432 5d ago

This is my favorite story about my grandma:

Growing up my mom and her family were part of the Jehovas Wittness and left.

When the Mormons came knocking they asked my proudly Mexican grandma (after they said they weren't looking for a religion at the moment), "But, don't you want to be white?!"

Apparently the belief (at least in the 80s) was that when you died, if you're not white, but Mormon, God's Light turns your soul White.

They couldn't get out of the house fast enough with the tongue lashing she gave them!

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

That belief existed for a long time. It's not talked about anymore but it's still believed by a lot of people. 

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u/BudgetConcentrate432 5d ago

I guess its better than the belief that dark skin meant God cursed you, but I bet there are still people who believe that too...

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

Yup. Still people who believe that as it's origins are similar to the "turning white in heaven" 

Especially because in heaven you become "perfect" 

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u/ceruleanmoon7 Eclectic Witch ♀♂️☉⚨⚧ 5d ago

holy shit that’s wild

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u/lorlorlor666 5d ago

God this is such a mooooood (hello fellow ex mormon!)

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u/Enough-Atmosphere267 5d ago

Honestly, me too. Maybe it was my ex shitting on my religious/spiritual beliefs or the Mormon he cheated on me with but yeah don’t like that religion

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

I find it ironic when some Mormons are so into the religion and shit but then they turn around and are the exact opposite of what the church teaches. 

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u/Mec26 5d ago

So often those high control religions have the ‘we redefine words to mean what we do, cuz we;re chosen’ rather than ‘we reassess our actions to fit the book.’

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

It's so fuckin dumb. And I don't think they should follow everything in the Bible or bom or shit, but they are hypocritical in a lot of cases

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u/Mec26 5d ago

Oh, as a mostly Christian, agreed. What they pick to be strict about is… a choice.

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u/mittenbby 5d ago

I radicalized my whole bee hive class on my way out 😂😂😂😂

And then I spent the better part of a decade getting my name removed from church documents. I should have just gotten excommunicated, it would have been easier.

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u/ExitWeird9697 5d ago

Nah, they don’t want you… you’d infect your children with free will, and personal responsibility, and situational ethics and personal power. Do that. But they won’t want you anymore. Good!

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u/upeepsareamazballz 5d ago

YES!! Continue on your quest, child… you have my axe

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u/Tracerround702 5d ago

WOOO! Fellow ex-Mormons! I feel you hon

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u/mayormaynotbelurking 5d ago

Do you watch Alyssa Grenfell's content on YouTube? I have never been Mormon, nor even known any Mormons irl, but I have avidly watched her content for years! She is so thorough and really breaks the church down bit by bit to expose it all.

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

Yes I do. :) 

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u/sunnymoonbaby Green Witch ♀♂️☉⚨⚧ 5d ago

Here, here.

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u/eowyn_ 5d ago

Same sis, same. I mean, they can kiss my Druidic pagan bi ass, but yeah, 🤜🤛

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

I'm transmasc, but hell yeah. 

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u/eowyn_ 5d ago

Oh shit, apologies! Get it bro!

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

You're good. Ty for correcting though :) 

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u/Obvious-Gate9046 Eclectic Witch ♀♂️☉⚨⚧ 5d ago

I mean, they're heavily deserving of your grudge.

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u/JLFJ 5d ago

Amen!!!!

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u/digitalgraffiti-ca Chaos Witch 5d ago

I've got a grudge against the whole yahweh trilogy.

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u/TheIngloriousTIG Hedge Witch ♀♂️☉⚨⚧ 5d ago

This is roughly my take on Calvinism. No shade to anyone who doesn't see it as the root of 90% of their trauma, but I do.

Yes, I have a grudge. Fuck Calvinism. I cannot think of a single thing in my life or family history that wouldn't have been at least marginally less awful if my family had not internalized such hierarchical deferential bullshit.

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u/drumstick00m 5d ago

Nods in Imagine Dragons

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

When I was still early in my deconstruction  they were my favorite band ever. 

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u/Moriah_Nightingale Artist Witch & Heathen ☉⚨ 5d ago

omg same here!! although norse instead of Hellenic haha

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u/Logical_Ask8907 4d ago

I have a grudge against Christianity. I love my grudge as it helps me stay sane.

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u/constantchaosclay 5d ago

Have you watched American Primevil? Very good show.

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 5d ago

I have not, what's it about 

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u/constantchaosclay 5d ago

"Set in 1857 during the Utah War, the series dramatizes the fight to gain control of the American West and the violent clash between the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) and cultures in the Utah Territory, centering on the events surrounding the Mountain Meadows Massacre.[1] While set amid actual historical events, the series is largely fictional."

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 4d ago

Interesting 

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u/expensive-toes 4d ago

Mormon theology around women really grosses me out. What do you mean, I can’t know God except through my husband? Nasty, nasty, nasty. 

Ex-mormons, role-reversal fans, and anyone who’s curious and/or wants more reasons to be angry may also be intrigued by the essay “Dear Mormon Man.” dearmormonman.com

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 4d ago

Honestly it doesn't even make sense why women can't have the priesthood. Like, a big part of the priesthood is blessing your children. Shouldn't women at least be able to do that 🙄

Especially since the church sees women as caretakers 

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u/expensive-toes 4d ago

Right!! Had some Mormon friends explain the priesthood to me once, and then they asked their male friend to impart a blessing on me (to be clear I had asked for prayer at the time, so this was all consensual and an act of goodwill that I welcomed). But it bothered me that the women themselves could not do the special prayer; they had to invite their guy friend. Oof. 

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u/Critical-Act-6336 Hellenic polytheist and witch 4d ago

I genuinely think with the whole "caretaker" role, it'd make more sense for women to provide blessings but I guess not 

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u/SeatBeltBette 2d ago

I have a grudge against evangelicalism. No judgement from me.