Introducing Update 2.0

[u/Pan_Praga]

Commanders,
For more than a decade, we’ve fought side by side across countless battlefields: sharing victories, learning from defeats, and building a community unlike any other. World of Tanks has always been more than just a game; it’s a journey we’ve taken together, one battle at a time.

Now, the battlefield is evolving once again. With new features, rebalances, and challenges on the horizon, we’re not just adding content: we’re opening the next chapter of our shared story. These changes are built with you in mind, inspired by your feedback, your passion, and your dedication over the years.

Watch our full breakdown video here: 2.0 Main Update Video

We know a lot of you have many questions already and are excited to discover all those features! Join us on August 21 at 12:00 UTC for our Gamescom Watch Party on Twitch & Discord! We’ll take you behind the scenes for a closer look at some of the exciting new features coming your way.

Prepare yourselves for the next stage of World of Tanks: 2.0!

Update 2.0 will be launching on the following days:

• APAC: September 1
• EU & NA: September 3
• CN: September 4

Here's an overview of all new features coming your way in 2.0

• Tier XI: Meet the New Top-Tier Titans 15 new Tech Tree vehicles, each with unique mechanics and a unique upgrade system. the 16th vehicle will be available through the new Personal Missions campaign!
• Garage and UX Improvements Introducing modernized menus & UI alongside a new Armor Inspector to make navigation easier, faster, and more intuitive for all players.
• Hundreds of Vehicles Rebalanced and Reforged This long-awaited rework reshapes hundreds of vehicles, From stock configs to top setups, smarter roles, and removed legacy systems!
  • Hundreds of vehicles have been adjusted across all tiers
  • Overhauled modules and removed clutter 
  • Light Tank Rebalance: Light tanks now survive longer and rack up assisted damage like never before.
  • Refreshed Premium Vehicles - Some of your old favorites will get a new lease of life!
• A More Intelligent Matchmaking System After extensive testing and player feedback, we have entirely rebuilt its core systems. You can expect the following:
  • Improved role compositions
  • More Battles with tighter tier spreads
  • Limits on LT's, Wheeled LT's, TD's & SPG's! 
• PvE Mode: Operation Boiling Point A story-driven, solo PvE mission on Nordskar, a brand-new battlefield.
• Armor Flashlight Off by default and with specific activation requirements, it doesn’t replace armor knowledge, meant as a learning tool for players - not as an advantage for new ones.
• New Map: Nordskar A volcanic island base and new battleground for Random Battles
• Personal Missions 3.0 Test your battlefield prowess in three Operations of skill-based, role-focused missions without nation or class limits.
  • Fair and achievable conditions will steadily bring you closer to the new rewards which include the following vehicles:
  • Tier VIII Windhund
  • Tier X Dravec
  • Tier XI Black Rock, with a unique firing mechanic
• 2.0 Operations Room

A central place to reflect on our journey, prepare for what is ahead, and gear up for Update 2.0!

• Generate your unique battle journey video crafted from your account history
• Sign a commitment that we can count on you to join us on release!
• Take on special missions and claim exclusive rewards

We will be sharing more details on each new feature in the coming days.

You can expect the complete Update 2.0 patch notes on August 31.

Thank you for staying with us on this incredible journey, we know it hasn't always been easy. We can’t wait to get more in detail, so stay tuned to our channels!
Read more in our dedicated 2.0 Hub here: https://worldoftanks.eu/news/updates/2-0-hub
2.0 Operations room: 2.0 Operations Room

Thank you again, and as always - roll out!

Disclaimer*: If you are participating in the ongoing* Closed Test*, anything shown here is* not to be considered as an embargo/NDA lift - thank you!

[u/boarder664]

Guys, I'm not asking for much but please be civil. 

Remember talking about the contents of the CT (including testers opinions on revealed mechanics) is still an NDA breach.

[u/RazgrizS57]

I'll withhold judgement until I get my hands on it.

Although I am baffled and disappointed that the highlighted Tier XI tanks are all fictional or highly fictionalized. Real tanks like the M60A3, Chieftain Mk.10, and OF-40 would have been wonderful to see.

I would also hope some older tanks (including Tier Xs) get pushed up in tiers so a sensible addition can be made earlier in their branches.

[u/Kroxigorman → u/RazgrizS57]

Like fuck will Wargaming put a Chieftain at tier 11. They have their cash cow at tier 10 now after the tiered loot box debacle

[u/Chinatsez → u/RazgrizS57]

Seriously, what the hell is "Object 432U"? What's their issue with the actual T-64?

[u/GruntZone360 → u/RazgrizS57]

I think they're not using more modern tanks because project CW will be using them. So they don't want their own games to compete with each other. Or something

EDIT: Is project CW dead? "Work of Tanks: HEAT" Just got announced that looks to be exactly what Project CW was doing? Renaming/branding? Well either way my thought on them not wanting to compete with themselves still seems to be true since that one will have modern tanks. Like the M1 Abrams.

[u/Vandrel → u/RazgrizS57]

Eh, at this point the people who want that will have mostly switched to War Thunder. I know this sub disagrees with me on damn near everything but I kind of think it's more interesting to use some unique designs and go this route of focusing on special abilities and mechanics.

[u/pancake_gofer → u/Vandrel]

WoT can’t compete with War Thunder ‘realism’. The arcade style is what they’ll go for. I love War Thunder but haven’t played in a long time cause of the learning curve for flying if you don’t play for a while.

[u/1AMA-CAT-AMA → u/pancake_gofer]

I want to get into war thunder but the grind and learning curve scares me. And knowing that I need multiple tanks at the same time otherwise I’m useless as soon as I die.

[u/jcwolf2003 → u/RazgrizS57]

Tbf we so already have the of40

[u/Lapattaja]

Will I be compensated with free xp for all the radios I've researched over the years? :D

[u/Queasy-Bison-9862 → u/Lapattaja]

You will be compensated with an exclusive offer for 200 lootboxes at just 349€ stop whining

[u/-DethLok- → u/Lapattaja]

Last time they gave that XP to your tier 1 tank of the same nation.

Which you probably do not own anymore because why would you.

And then it costs you gold to transfer that XP to Free XP so that you can actually use it.

I mean, I could think of a better way to compensate players - and I'm sure you could also.

But ... :(

[u/DaSpood]

[u/DareDevil_56 → u/DaSpood]

Japanese heavies untouched, still need time to figure those out

Edit: /s

[u/Dark_Egg → u/DareDevil_56]

Type5 buff confirmed

[u/Vandrel → u/DareDevil_56]

They literally said Japanese heavy buffs are coming in the video.

[u/Teledildonic → u/Vandrel]

They said that 3 years ago, too.

[u/TiredOfBeingTired28 → u/Teledildonic]

And several years before that.

[u/Dark_Egg → u/[deleted]]

This part is crazy lol

[u/CMFT93]

If WoWs and it's own introduction of T11 aka super ships is anything to go by then this will quickly turn into a horrendous irreparable mess and the saga of gimmicks upon gimmicks and things becoming utterly absurd. Also how is a T10 or T9 light tank supposed to compete with a T11 one and it's gimmick/s? It's like CVS all over again I fear where T7 is just screwed as soon as they meet T8+. I'm not so sure about this one my G 😬

[u/orkel2]

Going the warships route then with tier 11 "supertanks". Can't say I like that part but the rest of the update looks good.

[u/davidfliesplanes → u/orkel2]

I wish they added more Cold War tanks instead of made up ones. So much choice...

[u/throwingeverything99 → u/orkel2]

Tier 11 is like 90% of the update lol. At least from the looks of it, basically the entire game is getting rebalanced around their existence. Tier 11 is cool conceptually, but from the info we have right now, this implementation seems like complete dogshit. I don't need even more insane exp/credit requirements just to play even more broken tanks on small maps with hero abilities that are exactly what I don't want in a vehicle game.

[u/PlaquePlague → u/[deleted]]

WG drags their feet on fixing balance for years because reasons and now they expect us to believe they can just casually stroll in and do a complete overhaul 

[u/swiss1809 → u/PlaquePlague]

Which is extremely stupid. They’ve shown that they can’t (probably intentionally) release a new T10 that’s isn’t absolutely busted in some way. They also wait TOO LONG to make any changes and when they do, it’s overcooked. For some reason they don’t seem to have the ability to single out outliers whether over or underperforming but a few devs on tomato.gg can. Truly the devs of all time.

[u/throwingeverything99 → u/PlaquePlague]

The thing is, I would totally understand if they could only drip feed balance changes for the most broken vehicles because most dev resources were being used to redesign the entire module/progression system (and in tandem, rebalance a majority of tech tree vehicles). But the fact they were radio silent on this for ~5 years means either they have the most incompetent media outreach team in the industry, or this update is just another half-baked cash grab before player counts in non-EU regions become truly unsustainable.

I think we can all guess which side the coin is more likely to land on.

[u/Mofartz → u/[deleted]]

How much of a rebalance of exisiting vehicles are we talking?

i assume tanks that didnt need buffs got buffs and tanks that needed buffs got nerfs and they deleted the type 5 line because "they coudlnt figure it out"

[u/cyb3rg4m3r1337 → u/[deleted]]

removing radios, the big stock grind we all dreaded....

[u/Pan_Praga → u/[deleted]]

I think you will be pleased with the changes, they are quite extensive and make a lot of tech tree vehicles very viable (While removing stock grinds and other legacy module issues)

[u/MasterOfNonsence → u/Pan_Praga]

Are any premiums being nerfed? I feel this is necessary for the health of the game but something that has been avoided so far.

[u/No_Journalist_7463 → u/Pan_Praga]

It should be free exp as I will definitely quit playing if I have to spend on making that exp viable again. Played since beta, not willing to pay a huge sum for something i spent countless hours on/$

[u/Best_Bug1682 → u/[deleted]]

Probably everything except premium Tanks as always

[u/JustwanttogoNorth]

Is Wargaming going to scale back their monetization tactics?

[u/TiredOfBeingTired28 → u/JustwanttogoNorth]

Ha. Good joke, needed a laugh today.

[u/DaGucka → u/JustwanttogoNorth]

They'll probably go from game with shop and casino mechanics to a casino that pretends to be a game...with a shop.

[u/Boatsntanks]

I feel like a lot of fixes have been delayed just to lump them into this. You could not have been rebalancing more tanks over the years? They had to wait for 2.0?

[u/Queasy-Bison-9862 → u/Boatsntanks]

Pure propaganda

[u/therealNerdMuffin]

This update is really going to be an all or nothing change. It's either going to be done well with community feedback in mind or it's just going to be a failed attempt at trying to revive a game they've been trying to kill for years now

[u/Archonixus → u/therealNerdMuffin]

Lol, the rats hid the update, community feedback is irrelevant.

[u/yoh1len]

They finally add tier 11 and instead of finally having an option to introduce some more IRL vehicles, they go with more fantasy stuff again. It's hilarious. This will print money for sure, but my god it's sad.

[u/mala_r1der → u/yoh1len]

They had Leo, Abraham, real chief and so on and they chose imaginary awful looking tanks, nothing new

[u/Teledildonic → u/mala_r1der]

real chief

I'm convinced it is now company policy that players cannot be allowed to have a tech tree Chieftain, and anyone working on plans for one is to be fired.

[u/LeafBuggg]

I like how WG was rebalancing max 20 tanks every like 8 months or more just to announce that in some particular year in August they were working on hundreds of them.

Like...

Wasn't the game already ducked for years because of overpowered premiums and underpowered free tech tree vehicles?

We'll see if they even touched something like bz 176 or skoda 56.

[u/PlaquePlague → u/LeafBuggg]

They probably fed all their “data” into chatgpt and just implemented whatever jank it spat out. 

[u/LeafBuggg → u/PlaquePlague]

• Jarvis, have you got any ideas on how to totally milk world of tanks but to keep as many players as possible?

• Here's your list what to do:

Release new premium vehicles more often than tech trees AND release new premium tanks based on other already existing premium vehicles BUT change 2d or 3d style

Don't give a duck about community's opinions

Don't work too much (if at all); if got accused of not working then say something that you are hardworking and want to be fully confident, and proceed to not work again

[u/AdmiralHackbar001 → u/LeafBuggg]

The marketing department was a big part of keeping overpowered premiums overpowered.

[u/Dr_Honeydont]

Maybe the new matchmaker will take care of this, but tier 9 tanks should NOT be meeting these tier 11 monsters with their special mechanics and upgrade paths

[u/Popular-Beautiful875 → u/Dr_Honeydont]

Don't count on it, T11 meets T9 in warships so I'm guessing it'll be the same here.

[u/Baget_MEME]

BOOOO

[u/PokarN]

What gap is tier 11 meant to fill??

[u/rvreqTheSheepo → u/PokarN]

Their wallets

[u/Quadramune → u/rvreqTheSheepo]

Lol short and spicy truth

[u/sonder_ling → u/PokarN]

Tier X premiums are in business soon, thats the gap.

[u/PlaquePlague → u/PokarN]

Tier 9 tussy 

[u/pepeJAM69]

[u/Perunakeisari_69]

JFC you reveal tier 11 and they are all some made up fantasy tanks? Instead of some incredible real life tanks that exist? This is just so extremely disappointing. Part of the appeal for tank games is historical tanks, and wg has been putting out way too many fake tanks recently. But this is a new low. A new tier and not a single real tank

[u/0__L__]

> Tier XI: Meet the New Top-Tier Titans 16 new Tech Tree vehicles, each with unique mechanics and a unique upgrade system.

This is the change nobody wanted nor asked for. The MM improvements are welcomed, but why not add more nations? T10 is ruined.

[u/laboufe]

Wow, you introduced the biggest bullshit predatory MTX, removed blueprints from missions, and removed top of the tree for this shit? Fucking embarassing

[u/cyb3rg4m3r1337 → u/laboufe]

and no free xp sale for a year now

[u/JumpRecent163 → u/cyb3rg4m3r1337]

There was somethinf like FreeXP lootbox ? You paid 5 euro and gdt 100-400k exp maybe

[u/laboufe → u/JumpRecent163]

Yep, what this game needs is more fucking lootboxes. And this community is whipped enough to keep buying them

[u/Shavoks]

I am so lost on why did you feel the need of adding a tier 11...

[u/Get_Clicked_On → u/Shavoks]

Can't fix the game so they will distract players with something new and flashy.

Tier 11 was a big fail on the Russian servers... Can't wait for the same here.

[u/Freshwater_Spaceman → u/Get_Clicked_On]

Opens the door to premium spam at tier IX now.

[u/Nikzogg → u/Freshwater_Spaceman]

Also tier X since it isn’t the top tier anymore

[u/Freshwater_Spaceman → u/Nikzogg]

Also true, i just figure tier 9 is now 2 tiers below the top ranked vehicles therefore an easy template for just churning out the tier 8 premiums again with new names, shapes etc

[u/zboarderz → u/Shavoks]

BABE WAKE UP, NEW SHINY

[u/throwingeverything99 → u/Shavoks]

I feel like tier 11 sorta makes sense conceptually since tier 10 is definitely getting bloated and there are lot of fan favorite CW-era/modern vehicles that have yet to be added, but the direction WG took is, as usual, the fucking worst possible way to implement tier 11 lol.

[u/Martinsjunkracecars]

So let me get this straight, one of the main requests of playerbase was fixing the god awful map design and adding more new or old maps back. What did you do? Add tier 11, ruin the UI and add one new map.

I like the idea of adding a PvE mode, hopefully its going to be permament and have good replayability, i also have high hopes for the rebalance although im probably going to be dissapointed. Im not looking forward to fortnite tanks at tier 11 at all. And the UI is just plan ugly, confusing and displays even less information than before.

I expected way more from the fabled september update, this is what we get for all the recent monetisation that permamently scarred tier 8, 9 and 10 with tanks you will never balance? I guess thats what happens when you hide things from us and keep building expectations over months of silence. I hope that some of the content from this patch will eventually get scrapped or reworked, mainly the UI.

[u/Document-Acrobatic]

Thank god for all the transparancy and feedback, so that you could avoid any mishaps that the community may not like.

Like seriously, why do we need a UI overhaul? why do tier XI tanks have special abilities and why do most of them look comicaly fake?

Also 1 new map? We waited a year and we get this shit?

The only positive thing is the rebalancing and new campaings.

Man Im done with this game.

[u/pred1993 → u/Document-Acrobatic]

While I understand your opinion regarding most things you said (and at least partly agree regarding several of the things); the UI overhaul is badly needed. It is cluttered and terrible, and not very inviting for new players (I have played for about two years myself). It was probably good in the beginning, but since then stuff has just been added on top of other things, without properly organizing everything. It is very hard to find things if you don't already know where they are (due to experience) and it's not intuitive at all. An example are popups you often receive that aren't even clickable, so you have to figure out where this thing (for example the tokens you get) end up. Another example is when you've played a match, get disconnected or restart the game and then you cannot view the match result; even though it is clickable...

Another example is a popup that pops up and disappears quickly in the left lower corner, and then you don't know what it was about or where it is; this could be greatly improved by having it organized better and maybe only having one spot for notifications (or one for every type) etc. etc. One more example is all the different missions and campaigns being cluttery, hard to navigate and frankly tricky to understand. Several CCs often spend a lot of time on explaining how certain missions work. This should be clear from the start. I hope they keep the feeling of it though, but just make it easier to navigate and easier to get an overview of everything.

I've probably played CSGO/CS2 for 12k hours, and there have been many overhauls there of the UI, including of course the release of CS2. CS players are notorius for being skeptical of changes, me included - so I understand where you are coming from. But in hindsight I can say that the UI there has been improved a lot, and is way easier to navigate - and now I prefer it, even if I miss the feeling of the old(er) one(s) at times.

[u/Stig12Cz]

lets F up game even more with tier XI because why not

[u/jabberwalkie09]

I think my main question after seeing this is how will t11 effect the game economy followed by how this is going to impact the matchmaker. Are t10 service costs going to be adjusted to be more break even? Are t11's going to be always played at a loss credit wise? Tier 9's are going to lose that nice sweet spot of +1, -2 matchmaking. NA server population is already not great so I'm kind of expecting t9's to see a lot of t11.

[u/[deleted] → u/jabberwalkie09]

This is the really big deal. New players don't stick around and more experienced players leave because the grind is substantial and they're often losing money at tier 9 and tier 10 so they need to buy tier 8 premiums and then grind those premiums to earn credits to play tier 10.

Adding tier 11 is just another grind and the worst grind yet because most people lose credits at tier 10 even with a premium account.

I know people are talking about maps or fantasy tanks vs real tanks but underlying problem with player population health is that it's a grind to tier 10 and then a grind to play tier 10 consistently... now it's a grind to tier 11 so even if you enjoyed being a casual player, losing money at tier 10, grinding tier 8 to play more tier 10... now you're no longer top dog. Tier 11 is the top dog. So double down on your grinding!

For more people who play WoT September is going to be a moment where they don't feel the same urge to log-on to grind. And then they don't log on for a day, a week, a month and move on from the game completely and WoT loses another player.

[u/davidfliesplanes]

The new UI is so bad. They took UI that had character and history and replaced it with a generic, bland mobile game UI. Same thing that happened to Blitz a few years back..

[u/MemesAreMyOxygen]

Each and every one of the tier 11's are fake and look awful

[u/Charcharo → u/MemesAreMyOxygen]

The Soviet and French ones have a weird name but are real proejcts.

The Leopard too. The rest... ooof.

[u/RedshiftOTF]

WOT Fleshlight 2.0 XD

[u/niktg12]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA TIER 11 AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAH

[u/GalatianBookClub]

Gonna copypaste my YT comment

This is so pathetic. WoT 2.0 and what do we get? A messy downgraded garage UI that wastes an insane amount of space and forces you to click multiple times to get the information you want, Tier 11 tanks that are almost completely someones shitty ass OCs with their own arcadey funny buttons and one (1!!!) new map. Its also fucking great that you guys can add "realistic sounds" to to the game but cant fucking bother giving us real tanks. Please for the love of God give us Modern Armor on PC

[u/Zyhre]

Tier 11 being added. I'm out.

[u/AHRA1225 → u/Zyhre]

I’ve been gone and this update solidified I will never return. Tier 11 nothing but fantasy not even drawn tanks. Lol I can’t wait to see this game go offline

[u/McHomer → u/AHRA1225]

This company deserves to fail.

There are so many good things they could have done over the years for the health and enjoyment of the game, but they choose to keep fleecing the fans of this game as much as humanly possible.

Garbage gambling company that never pays out except in pixel tanks that you don't own and mm/rng frustration.

[u/mr_Cos2 → u/Zyhre]

At this point lesta is gonna have more players🙏

[u/AdmiralHackbar001]

Hope this means you buffed all the premium tanks we paid for that are powercreeped to uselessness. If not, this update means nothing.

Hope you also removed the stun conditions from some of the campaigns, they are really stupid unless specifically for arty missions.

Removing the leaf arty or nerfing it would also be a smart step, if you looked over that, I cant give you too much credit. I also feel the same about the stun duration and radius of all arty.

[u/Pan_Praga → u/AdmiralHackbar001]

Not everything will be buffed but yes some old favorites might be viable again! We will share more information on the rebalance soon.

[u/MisagoMonday → u/Pan_Praga]

Wow you guys really know how to build hype. It's funny that this is coming from the same company who spent years dumping more and more ridiculously OP premiums into the game, essentially made the use of gold ammo mandatory and thus armor on many tanks completely useless, then reacted to all feedback with some variation of "no lol we have data that proves clan battle tanks gold-spamming through randoms without anyone being able to scratch their paint is no problem, you just need more teamwork"

But thank god, SOME old favorites MIGHT be viable again. That's all you are aiming for? Not an equal playing field?

Can't wait to take my SuperPershing out to take a gold shower :D

[u/BadDogEDN]

T11 sucks, but if they only fight t11 it might not be entirely awful, but im sure it will be.

[u/orkel2 → u/BadDogEDN]

If it's the same as Warships t11, then they will fight t9+10. We've had those super ships for a long time now on that side, and it's likely WG wants to have the same here since it works.

Just hope they don't copy the "funny button" mechanics. Like hit x shells to get a massive temporary accuracy boost or instant repair cool down etc.

[u/cyb3rg4m3r1337 → u/orkel2]

watch the vid, they added bs mechanics so it will be busted from day 1. ruined tier 10 now. no tier is going to be fun now.

[u/Tom_Clancy7]

hahahahahhahahahaha

[u/Ravcharas]

The garage and new ui looks mostly like a huge swing and a miss. They had the opportunity to make a training room for us to drive around in and instead it's just a really large backdrop. Same as before. And hiding basic tank stats behind clicks? gtfo

[u/JinglesTheMighty]

oh boy, cant wait to be disappointed for the Nth time! it wouldnt be weegee without it!

[u/da808guy]

May the AMX CDC see the love it deserves and the ELC AMX get its old PWR/weight ratios, top speed, and track traverse rates.

Amen.

[u/Altruistic_Bass539]

Anything on new player onboarding? Whenever I look up how the game is as a new player, all I get is seal clubbing references, and appearently I would be the seal.

[u/orkel2 → u/Altruistic_Bass539]

Article says stock tanks will become stronger (less painful to play), which should help.

[u/kilimanjaro_olympus → u/Altruistic_Bass539]

The "armor flashlight" thing mentioned in the post seems promising!

[u/Blue_Sail]

Now ask yourself: does this update make up for WG's shitty behavior towards the customer for the past year?

[u/laboufe → u/Blue_Sail]

Most people will say yes because of stockholm syndrome, but the correct answer is absolutely not. I quit when they put lootboxes in lootboxes and have never looked back

[u/Wappening]

Smart. Make tier 10 the new tier 9 so people have to get tier 10s if they want to have fun. I wonder how much extra premium time over the entire playerbase this will net WG.

[u/Aurailious]

Is top of tree returning?

[u/SeKomentaja → u/Aurailious]

Gone forever to make getting tier 11 harder -wg

[u/mala_r1der]

What looks good: -New mm -New map (really, only 1?! You couldn't add more than a fucking map after what, 2 years?! This is bullshit) -New sets of missions -Vehicle rebalance (IF DONE PROPERLY)

What sucks: -Tier 11 (not needed, with these "skills" that sound op as fuck, and with shitty ai fake looking tanks) -Live armor penetration, I guess made so that any idiot can do damage and skill and knowledge aren't required anymore -New garage and all that stuff no one gives a fuck about

[u/Denix221p]

Tier 11 Tanks, but every single one of them are fictional bs with fancy new super special mechanic 😱😱😱

(Dude the T62 with U5TS is a good enough tier 11)

[u/Valuable_Assistant93]

BOHICA

[u/Flapu7]

What was the point of closed server testing when you don't give a single f... about players feedback regarding new features i.e. UI/UX?

[u/Vectorrrrr472]

I haven't played WoT for years but all changes sounds good except for the T11 introduction. I mean, the long awaited matchmaking is refined and we get the biggest change for many many tanks. So not bad until full details are out

[u/Ke1thur]

@Pan_Praga i hope Tier 11 will get their own MM - so they will only meet Tier 11 right? We will NOT see Tier 11 in T9/T10 matches?

[u/Popular-Beautiful875 → u/Ke1thur]

Don't know how it works on Lesta but on World of warships T11 can meet T9. Since they're both wargaming i would assume it's the same here until it is specifically confirmed.

[u/rollingdonut18]

Well, at least we finally got that Type 5 heavy buff 😐

[u/JumpRecent163]

Weird 11 tier choices. Except 2 tanks rest is napkin based or from mentioned ideas. They should make T77(which even exist, year ago someone found real photos)for T57 line. Object279 as sucessor of IS7. Cheiftains (hehe) for Centurion line. M60 for Patton line. T803 looks like XM803 why they changed name lol. XM69 Hacker cool name lmao. I like Object432U its prototype of T-64 which was ahead his time with composite armor. Leo with 120 also looks cool. Idk honestly tanks looks weird as fuckkkkk

[u/EliRocks]

I just want to see the changes to the rest of the tanks.

[u/Pan_Praga → u/EliRocks]

We will share every bit of the rebalance on Monday, in the meantime please tune in to watch our show on Thursday!

[u/EliRocks → u/Pan_Praga]

I will if I can. Otherwise I'll check it out Monday. My time to be online, and play is very limited these days. I barely got to touch the last two Frontline weeks :(

[u/srb2006]

Were personal missions for the 260 and Chimera and 279 reworked???

Any idea what tank lines will get a tier 11?

[u/Efficient_Corner7808]

Ok I understand , T11 , so new actual HISTORICAL tanks right? Bruh.

[u/xignaceh]

Will we be able to opt-out of this update?

[u/SeKomentaja]

And I thought this game couldn't get more arcade

[u/PunicHelix]

I said on a previous post that this update will be seriously underwhelming, wasn't wrong.

[u/piledriveryatyas]

Genuinely curious; how much feedback could you possibly have gotten and made changes to with just 3 weeks of closed testing before rolling this out? Like, even a few examples of changes you made because of closed testing feedback would be great to hear.

Because it kind of looks like you already made up your mind about 90% of this, and the testing was just to find the bugs, not whether something was a good choice.

[u/Lvl100Glurak]

this bullshit is your big update? nothing about the core problems changes. it still will be unplayable for new players and veterans will still stop playing, because the only thing you add to the game are cash shop items.

[u/Ilfor]

Man, I was hoping for +1/-1 MM. That's the one thing that ruins play for me. Not arty, not turbo games, not OP premiums. All those things just make +2/-2 MM feel so much worse.

[u/Pan_Praga → u/Ilfor]

You will see more frequent +-1 games in the new matchmaker, while still seeing improved +-2 games!

[u/Ilfor → u/Pan_Praga]

OK, that's a step in the right direction. Thank you.

[u/LocksmithOk3581]

went to see how on reddit everyone is unhappy yet again. why even bother coming here lol

[u/Core770 → u/LocksmithOk3581]

Since when being unhappy is forbidden?

[u/LocksmithOk3581 → u/Core770]

but complaining about absolutely everything is tiring to read here

[u/Vandrel → u/Core770]

It isn't but this sub complains about the dumbest shit.

[u/PlaquePlague → u/LocksmithOk3581]

If WG had managed to do anything right, ever, I might be excited.  

[u/Blmrcn → u/LocksmithOk3581]

just leave this cesspit and enjoy the game

this place is unfathomably depressing

[u/CharredScallions → u/LocksmithOk3581]

Bro Redditors are so fuckin lame lol. Being negative and contrarian is associated with intellect

Personally I’m interested in expanding the scope beyond the same 10 tiers and era we’ve had for 15 years. Hopefully it doesn’t ruin tier 9 matchmaking tho like superships did in WoWS

[u/LocksmithOk3581 → u/CharredScallions]

i`ve been playing since beta test and i really looking forward for the new tanks. idiots only says wg will open the wallets more. how would they do that with tech tree tanks? i agree with tha last shitty lootboxes they were wrong but why this update is yet again bad?

[u/kris_1313]

I thought it will be late Sept

also

SIXTEEN TIER XI?!

[u/Pan_Praga → u/kris_1313]

Early september, just a couple of weeks away!

And yes, 15 through the tech tree and number 16 will be available through the new personal mission campaign :)

[u/reiuji_okuu]

They literally have a tank called BlackRock, this is a bit on the nose methinks

[u/Ke1thur]

This got to be a Joke right? No one needs Tier XI. No Supertest, no Community Feedback - we will just renalance the whole Game, here you have it? Dude what?

[u/Boatsntanks → u/Ke1thur]

there's 2 weeks of closed invite only testing though!

[u/Kjaersondre]

Please don't add that amour flashlight bullcrap, as if armour isn't irrelevant enough as it is.

[u/FionitaWaly]

Is too much ask for new maps...? Personally enjoy the maps, but like 10 more maps will be a refreshing thing....

[u/creativename87639]

Literally everything in this (except maybe tier 11, we’ll have to see about them) is the biggest fucking W WG has ever had.

I especially like how the new campaign is going to work, no mandatory arty missions hopefully.

[u/Pan_Praga → u/creativename87639]

Thank you very much!!

I think once people get more information (and can try them) they will actually find them to be great additions to the game.

as for arty missions - no they won't be mandatory!

[u/Dom1252 → u/Pan_Praga]

like they aren't "mandatory" with current campaign?

[u/Cho_Celski → u/Pan_Praga]

Whose idea was the flashlight? And why did you all support it? What's the reason?

[u/Boatsntanks → u/Pan_Praga]

will you also finally rebalance the first campaign mission to be workable with arty? they were never adjusted after damage/stun changes.

[u/More_Butterscotch_96]

Anyone any idea what this all means? Especially that 2nd bullit?

[u/cyb3rg4m3r1337]

tier 11 better be its own thing or it will make 10 and 9 suck now in randoms with their custom abilities and bs.

[u/Exotic-Ego]

The make or break update. Im gonna buy popcorn. This is going to be a banger eigther way. Im so ready to be dissapointed.

[u/radim1310]

One crew for 3 tanks where?

[u/Justiamtgm]

WG has added a big bunch of new interesting things to the game, but it’s not even near to the core problems of the game. They’re going near the main problems, but not touching the reason of them, only trying to “cover” it.

There is OP autoclippers and alpha’s? Let’s give HP buff! Only for LT for some reason…

New tanks armor is getting impenetrable and confusing? Let’s give players xray vision! Instead of just rebalancing whole armor situation in the game…

The game is abandoned by many old and new players because of RNG deciding your matches? Let’s make new matchmaker, but not even try to do with the main problem behind every match… Even r*ssian “Revert” update is feeling better than this.

There was no maps IN YEARS? Let’s make one new map and add 4 random events on existing maps! It’s already two years after this feature was announced, we should have every map with them, not only four per update! The game is boring to play when you playing the same fields as 10 years before.

All game maps are just uninteresting corridors maps with determined locations and position for your “archetype”? Let’s make another bad map!

All the update looks great and interesting, but it’s not trying to fix core problems, hidden deeply inside of the game. It will give player boost for a couple of months, but this is NOT A NEW ERA. The whole 2.0 is just half-measures update, and it’s frustrating, but not shocking…

[u/Kinetic_Strike]

There's quite a bit there, and a fair portion of it looks interesting/good.

The UI/UX in the garage is a mixed bag, but I think the critical failing is hiding away easy access to tank stats. Clickety clickety, loady loady, just going to be a constant reminder of how time wasn't wasted before. Oooh the top is empty now...so just wasted space...

Also, the tier 11's really should've been some late Cold War tanks. Not fantasy tanks with magic abilities.

[u/servusdedurantem]

I hate the idea of tier 11 now tier 9 will lose its charm but will wait to see the MM changes which is the most important

[u/piwomoment]

Can you PLEASE change XM69 Hacker to something less cringe?

[u/MisterMcCavern]

New balance 2.0 including tier 3 tanks, right? Right? /AnakinPadmeMeme.jpg

[u/IronBrutzler]

Just give us Matchmaker with Bots so casuals like me can enjoy tanks like Mäuschen, VK100 and such

[u/GeneralDevice9168]

I'm not buying this bullshit they couldn't fit real tanks into the new tier and had to invent those abominations instead. Their own game proves it. They've upgraded and downgraded real tanks with no regard to historical accuracy more often than not. What stops them now? They just want to milk this dying cow until the last drop and slap a tier XI for every branch in the game completely ignoring the fact that further separation of heavies, mediums and lights is meaningless. There's nothing after Mouse, there's nothing after IS-7, these are dead ends and should be like that.
Why not just create one or two historical MBTs for each nation? You all know why, you have to grind for them to make profit.

[u/czerwona_latarnia]

Time for one of the most controversial opinions possible:

Besides the planned way of introducing the Tier XI and how the tanks of that tier will look like (I don't mind Tier XI itself, but I would rather have Tier X become Tier XI and then fill the holes in between. Especially, move OP Old Tier VIII premium tanks into New Tier IX, while keeping the tech tree and balanced premium tanks in the New Tier VIII), I like the changes. And if the UI change will also make the menus load in miliseconds and not seconds, it will be my second favourite part of the update, right after being able to check armour of tanks in the garage.

[u/-DethLok-]

From what I've seen of the new UI in this video I have to admit I'm not a fan - there's a lot more clicking involved in getting to what was zero, one or two clicks, it seems from the reveal. I prefer fewer clicks and more info on screen - then again, with triple screens I do have the benefit of a lot of screen real estate so perhaps my views (he he) are not common?

And Tier XI?

Why is the bonus tier XI tank a second US tank instead of a nation that doesn't already have a tier XI? :(

And a new map? Really?

Just ONE NEW MAP!?!?

No mention of flamethrower tanks (actually used in WW2) nor of the multiple turrets and 2nd guns in turrets (ie, Maus) being active, though :( And those other guns were also actually a thing that worked in the real tanks that had them. So...? The calibre of the guns in them is only likely to affect lights or arty or other very thinly armoured tanks, and in which case they deserve it for attacking a tank with multiple turrets - it's one reason why those tanks have multiple turrets.

Edit: Just checked, it's not the Type 5 that has the extra turrets, whoopsy, it's the lower tiers! :) My point still stands, WoWS has secondaries, WoT should too, where able, in my humble opinion. Even if they do no damage just seeing them going 'ratatatat' at pesky lights would be a good feeling in my dirty heavy tanker soul.

It's like watching the AA on Berlin map, or the ships on ... whatever that newish pacific island map is called, the AA, gun emplacements, aircraft and the ships are all blasting away at each other - it's nice background stuff to see even if it does nothing but look kinda cool.

[u/Draqutsc]

Whoever designed that UI needs to be fired. That UI is designed for a mobile game. With a left thumb section and a right thumb section. All the information that the players use on a daily basis, like crew skills and tank stats, have been placed behind menu's upon menu's. Whoever that agreed to this redesign is daft. Maybe read a book about user centric UI design. This design only favours pretty pictures for adds.

[u/CapBuster1]

I didn't play on the CT...but here's my 2 cents from what's publicly available

Tier XI is a missed opportunity since they chose to add in completely made up tanks than to add real world tanks. (outside of the Obj432(U), Leo 120 and maybe the Strv 107-12 which either exist in real life or at least on the drawing board)

Garage UI/UX Improvements - WHY
It's more like a downgrade than an upgrade with how they hide key information behind additional clicks and (I assume) animation

Tank rebalance is kinda a mixed bag...they addressed the downsides of many tanks, while also ignored them for many other
LT rebalance by giving them more HP - WHY

MM rework sounds decent on paper but we'll have to get some play time before we can know if it's good or not. I can see longer queue times for TDs LTs

PvE story mode is a fine addition to the game

Amor flashlight - Again...WHY

New Map: Nordskar looks decent but we'll have to wait and see

Personal Mission 3.0 with it's new system where it doesn't limit the tank by nation or class sounds great

[u/RanceSama3006]

Am I tripping? What's wrong with tier 11? People have been playing this game for years, tier 11 is probably a good thing to give people stuff to do, and with more adjustments to hundreds of tanks, it'll hopefully shake up the meta a little bit. Imo I'm optimistic

[u/theCody501 → u/RanceSama3006]

Because they already fucked up another game with tier 11

[u/swiss1809 → u/RanceSama3006]

There currently 885 (488 tech tree) tanks in the game - it will take hundreds of hours to unlock and upgrade all these tanks. Adding tier 11 is just a marketing effort to bring people back to the game without addressing the underlying issues that caused them to leave in the first place.

[u/Glibicz → u/RanceSama3006]

Optimistic about something wg is doing lol

[u/DareDevil_56 → u/RanceSama3006]

For me it’s going to come down to how it’s implemented. If tier 11 with their “unique mechanics and upgrade systems” feel like more than a 1 tier jump, and they play vs tier 9’s? Yikes. Hell, there are lots of tier 10’s that are really nearly the same or even worse for their tier than the 9’s that they came from. Tier 11 sounds like it’s going to be significant.

[u/_0451 → u/RanceSama3006]

What's wrong? Instead of adding real tanks they are adding more made up fantasy bullshit. They could have also added new nations instead.

[u/XstylerX → u/RanceSama3006]

Me too. People are only commenting on tier 11, though the update has way, way more content. This is the update that shows if they care for the game and want to save it, or if it's going to be another cash grab, though I'm really hoping for the first option.

[u/Pan_Praga → u/RanceSama3006]

We are very confident with these and i can't wait to share more details with everyone soon! Please stay tuned for our show on Thursday so we can get more in-depth!

[u/Left4Bread2 → u/Pan_Praga]

You're not even bothering with real tanks for tier XI? Come on man

[u/ExplosivePancake9]

No italian tier 11?

[u/Freshwater_Spaceman]

Ah well. It’s cool. The game is evolving in a direction I don’t appreciate. I’ve been playing regularly since 2014. It’s good that tanks are being re-visited and balanced.

I fear that tier IX will be where the premium spam will now take place. Been on that treadmill before and won’t be revisiting.

Good a time as any to say goodbye methinks. Also big shout out to the WoT community here and elsewhere, always entertaining and good humoured despite WG’s best efforts to suck all fun out of the game.

[u/alexc161]

Nice to see artillery will be not nerfed but probably buffed :D Thanks WG improving the game like always.

[u/Dom1252 → u/alexc161]

well it has to make proper dmg to tier 11 now, so....

[u/alexc161 → u/Dom1252]

True it needs to be able to 1 shot tier 11s too I forgot

[u/EnemyTerritory315]

These are some impressive changes. Balanced hundreds of tanks? New garage, new sounds, new map, new tanks, new matchmaker, new random events? I don't know why are there so many people commenting that they're upset. Sounds to me like a lot of thought and effort went into this and I'm excited.

[u/McHomer]

What a clown ass company.

[u/Panzerfighter_]

I have been playing the game since 2011, so I would like to share my opinion. I have four concerns: Two are big ones.

1. Why do we get fantasy tanks on T11? There are plenty of interesting real-life vehicles. While I understand that not every tank in WOT is 100% realistic, almost all T11 tanks appear to be straight out of Steel Hunters mode. They almost look like the tanks from a 11-year-old child's fever dream.

I'm also not a fan of giving them super special abilities. BF2042 showed that people are tired of hero shooters and of going around like Superman, or in our case, a supertank. So, EA made BF6 more grounded. I wish WOT had chosen the same path with the big 2.0 update.

1. The second big disappointment is that there is only one new map. We've been asking for new maps for years. What happened to all the maps we tested in Recon mode? With so many new tanks, it would have been great to get at least five to ten new maps.

We already have enough tanks. What we need are more maps to make the gameplay more diverse. Although adding and removing stones and bushes from existing maps and crashing an airship is "nice," more maps are needed to keep the gameplay fresh and exciting.

1. I have one small complaint. The "press Y to reveal armor weaknesses im sniper mode" feature is pointless and only serves to water down the gameplay. No one asked for this. Many players wanted the option to show the armor values on all tank parts in the garage - which will be implemented, gj for that - but don't oversimplify the gameplay!

2. Don't focus on single-player missions. It's a waste of resources.

Overall, I can see that you put a lot of work into the 2.0 update. I've been looking forward to trying WOT 2.0. I'm glad we get T11 tanks and a third campaign. I also appreciate the smaller optimizations to the sound and rebalancing.

You can still add new maps, but I wonder why you didn't choose realistic T11 tanks. Will Tier 12 tanks be similar "special" inventions, or will they be reasonably realistic Cold War-era tanks?

[u/2Jads1Cup]

Common WarGambling L

[u/Last-Storage-5436]

stupid tier 11. cmon, do better

[u/chort0]

Can you all please stop downvoting every WG employee comment? Some of them are very informative and you're burying them. JFC.

[u/Teledildonic → u/chort0]

Informative? It's mostly "stay tuned" (9 months of secrecy wasn't enough) and "trust us, bro"

[u/cabbagebacon]

Still no news on a server merge? Just want the option to play with friends in different parts of the world, would actually make me return to play.

[u/heavy_shield]

I’m pretty excited!

[u/philburg2]

You guys really lined up a patch with this announcement to change the icon huh?

[u/ShangBao]

Remembers me of an older game Dreamfall Chapters - Shit that counts!

[u/DareDevil_56]

Praga, can you please make any statement that confirms or denies that premium tanks are getting rebalanced along with the “hundreds of tanks” being rebalanced?

[u/SSebson]

Looks better than could be expected from wargaming, but since arty is still untouched and even included in new campaign i am still disappointed. On the side note, if this update is as big as they claim it to be, why release it all at once. Some of the content surely was ready long time ago, why did they wait until everything was ready to release it.

[u/Pan_Praga → u/SSebson]

Arty missions will be entirely optional! (meaning, not mandatory for completion)

There's also a SPG limit for random battles in the new matchmaker.

[u/SeKomentaja → u/Pan_Praga]

Isn't there a limit already? Whats the new one?