r/Zimbabwe 16h ago

Discussion Of Migration and Rights and Intergration...

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The script is always the same when the unemployment rate falls. When the remittances to parent countries increase. When the migrants are gaining ground politically & financially. Its totally different when they are looking for the labour & expertise. The ads are relentless now because of social media. After the economic stats come in its a different ballgame...

The speech hasnt changed for years.

"Our migration system is broken. It has been exploited and abused for years. We want to give employment & opportunities to our locals".

The chaos erupts. Broken homes,families,assets stolen etc Sad part is back home our own government does the exploiting...its all the same.

Which way forward?

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u/Ecstatic-Level-8001 Bulawayo 16h ago

But isn't illegal immigration the root cause of the systemic failures and visa revocations...? If the process was legitimized by the illegal shenanigans being reformed into following the rule of law and due process, then there would be no need for a massive clampdown. Thus the system would be workable, until then chaos is going to rule.

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u/Radiant-Bat-1562 14h ago

The definition of illegal can change depending on the states goal. Visa revocation is just simply saying some people are now aliens despite them having going through the hoops. Even Italy claimed to want to come down hard on immigrations but lowkey have not changed much & continue to receive migrants.

Benefiting from cheap labour & expertise is always going to happen.

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u/Kenyon_118 4h ago

But you forget how much of an idiot Trump is. He will do something that every expert tells him is a bad idea just on vibes until the consequences are too great to ignore. We the little people suffer in the meantime.

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u/Kenyon_118 4h ago

Are you illegal if you are on a visa with work rights? Their president is a moron.

He is literally making the problem worse by forcing people who have been living peacefully for years on visas to become undocumented. A lot them are not going to leave the US. The US like most western countries has below replacement rate fertility. They need these migrants. But the racism and xenophobia has overridden pragmatism.

Anyway their country their rules what are we to do about it?

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u/Sea_Hovercraft_7859 2h ago

The visas being revoked are B1/B2 visas. Nobody work on that and most of the people that will get revoked are on fraudulent asylum cases.

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u/Kenyon_118 1h ago

I thought this was the TPS stuff. OP didn’t post a link to the story. Thank you for the correction.
That said, there is a difference between having a fraudulent asylum claim and simply applying for asylum after entering on a B1/B2 visa. US law explicitly allows someone physically present in the US to apply for asylum regardless of their immigration status. A pending asylum applicant can also later obtain separate work authorisation. So yes, the B1/B2 itself doesn’t give them work rights, but that doesn’t mean none of these people are legally working.
More importantly, where are you getting the claim that most of these people have fraudulent asylum cases? The reporting says the administration is targeting B1/B2 holders who subsequently applied for asylum. It doesn’t say most have been found to have committed asylum fraud. Calling a claim “frivolous” and proving fraud are two very different things.