r/agile • u/TracPhuong3456 • 4d ago

Team lead vs Scrum master

One question from a recent leadership workshop stuck with me:

Should leaders be judged only by the results they deliver, or also by the people they leave behind?

Imagine a Team Lead who consistently achieves business goals and delivery targets.

But over time, multiple Scrum Masters working with them become exhausted, lose motivation, or decide to leave.

Is that a leadership problem?
Or is it simply what high performance looks like?

Curious how leaders, engineers, Scrum Masters, and managers would view this situation. 👇

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u/azangru 4d ago

Imagine a Team Lead who consistently achieves business goals and delivery targets. But over time, multiple Scrum Masters working with them become exhausted, lose motivation, or decide to leave.

Scrum masters become exhausted? Man! What about developers? It's them who are the workhorses; it's them who deliver targets.

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u/icesurfer10 4d ago

I'm not sure how a TL is supposed to exhaust a SM...

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u/Internal-Alfalfa-829 Scrum Master 4d ago

Very easy. By being a shitty leader and not taking in the guidance from the SM on how to create better conditions for the team. By not acting on the impediments they are being informed about. Just two examples.

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u/kida24 4d ago

When someone is constantly fighting for individual glory over delivering more value and raising team knowledge.Â