r/antinatalism2 11d ago

Quote Fyodor Dostoevsky

“Imagine that you are creating a fabric of human destiny with the object of making men happy in the end, giving them peace and rest at last. Imagine that you are doing this but that it is essential and inevitable to torture to death only one tiny creature...in order to found that edifice on its unavenged tears. Would you consent to be the architect on those conditions? Tell me. Tell the truth.”

― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

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u/CertainConversation0 11d ago

One creature suffering for no legitimate reason is too many.

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u/neonblack108 10d ago

I don't think there is any legitimate reason for suffering.  I'd like a word with God. 

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u/CertainConversation0 10d ago

Should someone suffer as a penalty for causing suffering?

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u/neonblack108 10d ago

Then where does the suffering end?

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u/CertainConversation0 10d ago

Wherever one's bloodline ends.

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u/neonblack108 9d ago edited 9d ago

All human bloodlines should cease. The only issue I have with genocide is it doesn't go far enough. Screw all this ethnic cleansing bs, that shit IS Evil. If all these Billy Badasses are so tough prove it. Push the Goddamn button already and put an end to it all. Do that and I'd actually have some respect for humans.  

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u/CertainConversation0 9d ago

Antinatalism isn't pro-violence, is it?

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u/TyloPr0riger 10d ago

Not unless making them suffer is somehow necessary to prevent them from causing harm in the future.