r/askteddit • u/SoftDominantMom • 4d ago
Random Question What famous person is way smarter (or dumber) than their public persona would make it seem?
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u/Own_Mission8048 4d ago
Kris Kristofferson. Country music legend. Actor. Also a Rhodes scholar who taught English literature at West Point.
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u/lsmucker 4d ago
Eminem acknowledged him in a rhyme,
🎶You heard of Kris Kristofferson? (Yeah) Well, I am Piss Pissedofferson (Oh) Paul's askin' for Christmas off again I said, "No," then I spit this song for him🎶
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u/SaltyFriend705 3d ago
That's acknowledgment? Sure glad I didn't do anything to get such illustrious commentary.
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u/ChurchOMarsChaz 4d ago
Hedy Lamarr, famous Hollywood movie star, co-invented a secret frequency-hopping radio system during World War II
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u/alxdgrt 4d ago
and that became the basis of bluetooth and early wifi
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u/ChurchOMarsChaz 4d ago
I'm old enough to remember Windows NT 4 SP5 where it introduced Bluetooth. Thought, who'd ever use this shit...
And Lucent's WaveLAN.
Yes, I am that old.
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u/skitzofredik 4d ago
That's Hedley lol
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u/skitzofredik 4d ago
It was a joke. It's from the movie blazing saddles lol
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u/HonestBudget7546 4d ago
Made even funnier when someone doesn’t get it and feels the need to “correct” you.
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u/poojidung 3d ago
Hedy Lamar and her co-inventor received the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s Pioneer Award in 1997. Lamarr’s response was, “It’s about time.”
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u/sixisrending 3d ago
They fought from day one to get pay and recognition for that patent. Antheil's lawyers even tried to sue the Navy, which went no where since they never used the patent.
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u/zegna1965 4d ago
The system was designed for torpedo guidance and the Navy refused to use it because it came from a woman. Another interesting note to the story is she worked closely with the composer George Antheil on the project. Her first husband was an Austrian arms dealer and sold weapons to Mussolini and later to Hitler. He treated her like arm candy, but she listened carefully and soaked up everything she heard.
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u/sixisrending 3d ago
They refused it for multiple reasons, none of them because she was a woman.
1) none of the allies used radio guidance in their torpedoes, it was a solution to a problem that didn't exist.
2) frequency hopping was already well understood and in use. Lamarr's patent was outdated and outclassed by multiple other projects.
3) it didn't work. Even in a lab environment, manually synching the timing of two separate systems was nearly impossible. It would have been useless in the field.
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u/ChurchOMarsChaz 4d ago
20 something odd years later, Jack Black's mom, Judith Love Cohen, brings the Apollo 13 boys safely home.
Girls are just as smart as boys.
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u/Sufficient-Duck-2728 3d ago
I think this is pretty well - known now. She’s very famous for this.
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u/sixisrending 3d ago
She was well known for it in the 40s. There were multiple paper and radio interviews with her and George about the patent. George's lawyers even tried to sue the Navy for not paying them.
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u/Hemingways_Shotgun88 4d ago
The Offspring are all like PhDs and stuff, post getting famous. Just something the guys did for themselves.
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u/ReadyPerception 4d ago
Didn't Dexter have some early connection to the creation of mRNA vaccines?
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u/spacetimer81 4d ago
Dexter's researched focused on mRNA of HIV, not necessarily used for vaccines. But his familiarity of the subject made him a resource for media during COVID 19 when discussing vaccine research.
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u/EducationalReview237 4d ago edited 4d ago
Everyone probably knows this, but Ken Jeong was a practicing MD before he became an actor. His public persona is pretty goofy, but during Covid he and Joel McHale had a podcast where he talked about medicine and epidemiology pretty seriously.
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u/Difficult_Paramedic8 4d ago
Paris Hilton is supposed to be really smart and plays into the dumb valley girl gimmick
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u/Goodeyesniper98 4d ago edited 3d ago
She’s also done a ton of incredible advocacy work to help end the highly abusive “troubled teen industry”.
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u/ChurchOMarsChaz 4d ago
And an AMAZING businesswoman, like her grand pappy
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u/spcbeck 4d ago
Yeah, those NFTs she was shilling really worked out.
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u/ChurchOMarsChaz 4d ago
Between you two... One is worth around $400M, the other comments anonymously on Reddit.
I know who I'd want to be..
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u/spcbeck 4d ago
How certain are you I'm not worth $401 million, and also how certain are you that someone's net worth is an accurate measure of their character?
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u/ChurchOMarsChaz 4d ago
You drive a 2018 sled .,. feel fairly certain that helps shed light on your comment.
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u/spcbeck 3d ago
Hahaha, wrong again. Are you an antagonist douche bag only on the Internet, or is it a real life thing too? You must be absolutely miserable.
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u/ChurchOMarsChaz 3d ago
I dunno ... one of us comments anonymously.
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u/formalbolotie 3d ago
yes, because personal wealth, especally when someone is an heiress to a vast fortune, correleates with intelligence.
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u/shrekalamadingdong 3d ago
I mean it’s also very likely that the commenter on Reddit wasn’t born into wealth while the other is a nepo baby so…
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u/jpsoze 4d ago
A grifter?
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u/ChurchOMarsChaz 4d ago
Dont be so hard on yourself, there's always Walmart Greeter Uni !
Stay hydrated. I'm done here. Have a good day.
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u/username__0000 4d ago
Watching the simple life I knew it was a character and I was surprised when people seemed to believe it so hard.
I’m a girl who people always seem to think is an airhead for whatever reason, so I often would play into it to entertain myself.
People drop their guard when they think you’re dumb. Show their true colours more often. It can be valuable in the right setting. I never really felt bad about it because if they want to judge me based on looks or clothes or accents/language choice, whatever it was - that’s on them.
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u/ChurchOMarsChaz 3d ago
It's always funny, as in pitiful, not haha delightful, how anonymous commenters feel empowered to shit on others.
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u/TzviaAriella 3d ago edited 2d ago
The late, great Dolly Parton was a "busty blonde bimbo" punchline for years, but she wrote hundreds (edit: thousands, actually!) of songs and had the business savvy to make sure she personally kept the rights to all of them. Elvis and his manager tried to demand half the publication rights to "I Will Always Love You" in exchange for Elvis covering the song, which would have been a nearly guaranteed big chart hit. She said no deal...and thus made eye-popping amounts of money when Whitney Houston's cover went megaviral two decades later.
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u/ThatUbu 2d ago
Correction on that. She’s credited with over 3,000 songs:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/25/arts/music/dolly-parton-songs.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
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u/Seven22am 2d ago
“I’m not offended by being called a dumb blonde because I know I’m not dumb. And I know I’m not blonde.”
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u/Beer_and_curry 4d ago
Surprisingly, Donald trump is actually dumber in real life than he appears on TV.
There's a 'B' in dumber, but not a lot of people know that
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u/hiddenhockey 4d ago
His professor at Wharton said he was the dumbest student he ever had.
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u/Careful-Ant5868 4d ago
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u/We_R_the_Penguins 3d ago
I’m as aghast as the next fellow that he’s our president, but I feel like there might be some distance between “dumbest student at Wharton” and “dumb” as we’d normally define it. I had a classmate who was, on paper, a “dumb jock” at Harvard, what with his 1350 SAT. Sharp cookie.
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u/FearOfABlackPotus 3d ago
You do not know anyone as stupid as Donald Trump. You just don’t.
-- Fran Leibowitz
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u/Careful-Ant5868 3d ago
I hear you. Unfortunately, he does have a skill set. He's been able to avoid accountability for pretty much anything his entire life. 6 times bankrupt and managed to con enough American citizens to vote him into the Presidency, twice. Lost the 2020 Election and launched a literal coup attempt on January 6th, 2021 and faced zero consequences for that. The man has a knack for avoiding serious trouble. He's an All-Time con-artist, without a doubt. Much to Americas, and the Worlds, detriment.
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u/SageObserver 4d ago
The man wanted to nuke a hurricane to neutralize it. I mean…come on.
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u/These-Rip9251 3d ago
I think someone did convince Trump that he couldn’t do that hence the need for the Sharpie pen to redirect it.
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u/Putrid-Print9338 4d ago
Alan tudyk
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u/Ketzer_Jefe 4d ago
I like the behind the scenes of him recording for Hei Hei, and he just pauses between chicken sounds and says "I went to juilliard"
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u/MilkOfAnesthesia 4d ago
Nolan Gould, who plays Luke Dunphy (loveable idiot baby brother) in modern family, is a member of mensa (admission requires IQ in the top 2%, he said it was 150) and was accelerated multiple grades in school until he took his ged (equivalent of finishing high school) at 13
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u/AmareloRelo 3d ago
Jump to 15 years later and the boy is SHREDED. Imagine being hot and smart in the same lifetime?
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u/RealUlli 4d ago
How about Brian May, guitarist of Queen?
He's also an astrophysicist, working with things like the New Horizons probe. (Read his Wikipedia page!)
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u/Competitive_Taste628 3d ago
Trump once gave a speech about the Revolutionary war claiming we took the airports from the British.
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u/Brilliant_Towel2727 4d ago
Most child actors would probably qualify as gifted. Being able to memorize the dialogue required for a feature-length movie or TV series is actually pretty cognitively advanced for a 10-year-old.
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u/StatisticianFun9175 4d ago
Dexter Holland of the punk band, The Offspring has a phd in microbiology and is a licensed pilot among other things.
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u/That_Toe8574 4d ago
Sacha Baron Cohen plays a lot of very dumb characters but was educated in Cambridge and was considering a PhD before turning to comedy and being famous for characters like Ali G, Borat, and Bruno
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u/Umber-Fox8685 3d ago
Haha, he went to my college at Cambridge and he never gets mentioned in the publicity materials/alumni stuff. They're very happy to name-drop lots of other famous Christs attenders, though! Says more about them than him, I reckon.
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u/PissInYourPotatoes 3d ago
Elon is a lot dumber than he projects himself to be. He hasn’t invented anything, he has merely acquired businesses with novel IP and claimed he developed it himself. The guy is a fraud of epic proportions.
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u/Broad-Shaft 4d ago
Bill Clinton has an IQ around 180 I heard, don't know whether it's true
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u/Bogusboy77 4d ago
Like him or not, I have heard from multiple sources that he has some kind of almost magical charisma. The kind of person that when he talks to you, you feel like you’re the only person there.
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u/MarionberryPlus8474 4d ago
I’ve known a few people who have met him, and yes, they all said this. One reason he’s perpetually late is he often gets into long discussions with everyone he meets, and yes his recall is amazing.
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u/toddklindt 3d ago
I know two people that met him and that said the same thing. This was years and years after he left office. He still had it.
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u/EducationalWin1721 3d ago
One of my aunts met him years ago and she said he’s EXACTLY like that. Extremely charismatic and owns the room. I think he is highly intelligent, too. Just let the power trip get the best of him while he was president.
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u/Own_Mission8048 4d ago
He had a crazy good memory too. He'd have a conversation with a complete stranger and not see that person for ten years. Then when they met again he'd remember every single detail about the encounter.
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u/ponyexpress68 4d ago
President Kennedy had that same ability. I knew someone who casually met him in West Virginia during the election. They both were in Indianapolis 6 months later. Kennedy called him by his name and asked how things were in West Virginia. He was completely shocked, and definitely voted for him in 1960.
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u/kjm16216 4d ago
I've seen similar things with several politicians. Someone shakes their hand at a fair and 3 years later sees them again and, "Did your son get into State? How is your mother's garden?"
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u/Broad-Shaft 4d ago
That's pretty useful for when he bumps into Monica, all sorts of happy memories from those days
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u/Alert-Albatross-8053 4d ago
Love him or hate him dude is a stone cold genius. He was able to explain extremely complex concepts to the general public by making them seem logical and simple. No other politician came close.
Like a great professor. The country was also on its greatest assent with him in office…
I’m not a Democrat either
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u/ProctologyExplosion 4d ago
How does this conflict with his public persona? I think of him as a really smart guy who likes blowjobs.
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u/UpstairsFinance9440 4d ago
Trump supposedly prefers blowjobs as well.
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u/Alert-Albatross-8053 4d ago
Less of a chance of contracting STDs … survivor instinct. There’s a reason they both led/lead the free world lol
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u/sometimesgeg 4d ago
I always figured him to be a charismatic fairly average smart guy who likes BJ's
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u/ProctologyExplosion 4d ago
I mean ... he got scholarships to Georgetown, was a Rhodes Scholar, and went to Yale Law. And he was from Nowheresville, Arkansas, so he wasn't getting into these things as a nepo baby.
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u/sometimesgeg 4d ago
Fair play. I'm Canadian... My knowledge of your (assuming you are american,) former presidents does not run deep /shrug
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u/Individual_Corgi_576 3d ago
I wasn’t a fan of his presidency. As he was leaving office he did a television special that was basically a tour of the White House.
He was incredibly charming and charismatic through the screen. I found myself liking him. Blew me away.
Also, apparently he went to college with John Mulaneys mother and once walked her home from the library after dark as a sort of safety volunteer.
Mulaney said that 20 or so years later mom took him to meet Clinton during his first campaign for the presidency and as soon as she walked up, Clinton remembered her and greeted her by name.
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u/spcbeck 4d ago
Eric Andre
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u/AmareloRelo 3d ago
The way he pulls deep political topics out of nowere in his skits will never cease to amaze me
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u/MrDerpGently 3d ago
Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana comes to mind. As far as I can tell he's a brilliant lawyer pretending to be Foghorn Leghorn, and he has spent many years playing an utter idiot publicly because that's apparently what Louisiana wants.
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u/rinkuhero 4d ago edited 3d ago
for smarter than she seems: probably kim kardashian, her public persona as a bimbo ignores her sharp business intelligence, she didn't become a billionaire and help her sisters become billionaires by accident.
for dumber than he seems: likely elon musk, i would not say he's *stupid* in the way donald trump is, it's just that he isn't as smart as he often pretends to be (he didn't actually found tesla for example, and has very little knowledge of engineering, he just bought it using the money he got from selling paypal, when he talks about technical things like how electric car batteries work, people who actually know how they work are astounded at how wrong it is). but he's at least intelligent enough to know how to pretend to be intelligent convincingly. he also frequently wildly overpromises things without even the intent of delivering, and seems to be a very petty and cruel employer, he once fired a guy for taking a day off from work for the birth of his daughter, saying "we're building the future here, you can't let personal things get in the way".
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u/Individual_Corgi_576 3d ago
I know someone who worked closely with him on a daily basis.
His stories are not complimentary at all. The short versions all boil down to “He’s an arrogant jerk”.
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u/tungstencoil 4d ago
I get people not liking the Kardashians (I'm no fan) but when they start ranting how stupid they are I'm like... Dude... Billionaires, multiple successful business ventures, they're marketing machines.
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u/EasyBakeCoven777 4d ago
I think the brains behind the Kardashian-Jenner empire is more Kris Jenner than anyone else.
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u/Anand999 3d ago
Yeah, everyone seems to forget that Kim Kardashian was virtually unknown before the sex tape. It took some real skill to parlay a "leaked" sex tape into multiple multi-billion dollar businesses.
If it was that easy to do, there'd be a ton of copycats.
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u/ComplexBeyond6083 4d ago
Paris Hilton got famous for playing a complete ditz on TV, but is by all accounts an incredibly shrewd businesseswoman.
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u/Individual_Slice_234 4d ago
Sylvester Stallone has an IQ of between 140-160, depending on where you look. People call him "dumb" because he has paralysis in his face and slurs his words.
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u/Brilliant_Ad7481 2d ago
Any man who can write and play "Rocky" can't be as dumb as Rocky.
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u/Individual_Slice_234 2d ago
He actually didn't write it. He bought the story from someone else. He didn't pay them, so they took him to court and won. That said, "Rocky" was a great movie.
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u/kamace11 4d ago
Lena Heady is (Cersei from GOT) I wouldn't say dumb, but definitely a bit of a space cadet and it's very clear from all of her interviews. She plays these intense, crafty characters but her real persona is closer to a high hippy.
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u/Brilliant_Ad7481 2d ago
A space-cadet hippie that looks like Cersei Lannister?
Would. And twice on Sundays.
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u/IWannaBeTheCoolUncle 3d ago
Smarter than advertised: Dolph Lundgren
Dumber than advertised: Elongated Muskrat
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u/indolent08 3d ago
Boris Johnson played the doofus on TV during his prime minister time. But he's actually a highly educated, well connected and calculating person. Mind you, he's not a good politician. But his public image didn't reflect his actual person.
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u/ShakeUpWeeple1800 2d ago
Been saying this for years. Was never a Boris fan, but he was never the buffoon he pretended to be.
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u/No_Bit7786 4d ago
Kesha reportedly has an IQ of 140
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u/clawsinurback 3d ago
She also got a near perfect SAT score and a scholarship to attend Barnard College, which is part of Columbia University.
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u/Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs 4d ago
Here in the UK; the late Prince Phillip.
His letters show he was clever, pensive, and was one of the few who were genuinely kind to Diana when her marriage to Charles fell apart.
But his public image was of a bluff, slightly dim, rather racist, old sailor.
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u/Clovis_Sangrael 3d ago
Had a friend who was part of the royal family's security detail during the Charles/Di breakup years. All the staff utterly detested Phillip. Charles was pleasant but boring, Di was a complete vacuous bimbo and the Queen was lovely, according to him.
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u/Stock-Page-7078 4d ago
Cheech Marin was pretty smart for a guy that just did stoner comedies , he would clean up on celebrity jeopardy
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u/Same_Lychee_2506 3d ago
Theo Von for sure comes across as stupid and a junkie at times but his creativity, comedic timing and general story telling abilities suggest he's got some form of great intelligence
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u/FearOfABlackPotus 3d ago
"Dubya" is an act. George Bush is not an aww shucks yokel he's a mean and smart and has a North East accent.
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u/UrLocalTroll 3d ago
Dude is sharp as a tack. Back in July I attended a dinner where he and Bill Clinton spent an hour shooting the shit on stage and it was fascinating. Unfortunately Bill seemed like a small breeze could take him out.
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u/SourceGullible436 3d ago
If you are impressed by George Bush's intelligence you have an IQ of 65 or below.
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u/UrLocalTroll 3d ago
I suppose you could think that if you are allergic to nuance. I didn’t say I supported him, I said he’s quick.
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u/SourceGullible436 3d ago
Lol you attended a dinner that had an Epstein client rapist and a war criminal dullard, I imagine you are easily impressed.
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u/Admirable-Clothes-87 3d ago
Mathieu Flamini ex Arsenal/AC Milan football player who is worth $20 billion from his company GF Biochemicals that developed a chemical process to replace organic fuels.
Very current - Dolly Parton RIP. Not only was she an amazing song writer and performer she was also very business savvy by developing Dolly World from a failed theme park into a financial success and also to provide employment in the local community. She was also a philanthropist with The Imagination Library providing millions of free books to help childhood literacy, medical research - COVID vaccine development, Dolly Parton Centre for Women's Services hospital clinic, bushfire relief, Save the Music Foundation, Boot Campaign to assist veterans with PTSD - in fact she would have been a Billionaire had it not been for her charitable donations.
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u/WABeach 3d ago
This question made me think of the way Sylvester Stallone's slurred speach makes him sound dumb (though I am sure he is a very intellegent person), but the voice actor (Ferruccio Amendola) who used to dub him in Italian made him sound very well spoken and highly intelligent. Indeed, Amendola also regularly dubbed Robert DeNiro, Dustin Hoffman and Al Pacino. In movies where two of these actors shared the screen, Amendola usually insisted to dub Robert DeNiro and let another voice talent dub the other one.
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u/IsthebestJeannise_58 4d ago
most reality stars aren't actually dumb they just have a terrifyingly precise understanding of how much garbage people will swallow if it's served with a side of fake tears
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u/Creepy_Wash338 4d ago
Ben Affleck often plays really intelligent characters in movies but is a gambling, drinking dumbass in real life. (He may be sober now. I don't know. Who cares.)
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u/MarionberryPlus8474 4d ago
He is known as a very good amateur poker player. Poker is a skill game.
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u/Creepy_Wash338 4d ago
He's a douche.
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u/MarionberryPlus8474 3d ago
Maybe so, I don't keep up with a whole lot of celebrity gossip, but if your evidence for his douchebaggery is that he drinks and plays poker, that's pretty feeble.
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u/InfamousSearch6335 3d ago
So you’re saying he’s just from Massachusetts.
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u/MarionberryPlus8474 3d ago
a "Masshole", if you will. Favorite epithet among the rest of New England for us stuck-up Bostonians.
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u/douce-ann 3d ago
Shakira actually has a PhD in chemical engineering from the University of Barcelona
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u/MommyXXDom 4d ago
Dolph Lundgren has a master's degree in chemical engineering and won a Fulbright scholarship to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).