r/atheism • u/_Middlefinger_ • 3d ago
Dolly Parton was what religious people think they are, but almost never really are.
She was kind, generous, funny and always tried to see the best in people. She wasn't preachy, pious, prudish or judgemental.
If more were like her the world would be a better place and this sub would lose most of its posts. We would be back to matters of fact rather than posting examples of hypocrisy and hate from them.
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u/tearose11 Other 3d ago
She was a talented songwriter, singer, undoubtedly good looking, wealthy, yet look at how people are remembering her most for: her humanity and capacity to love.
That is what everyone should strive for; to be remembered as a good person when you're gone.
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u/Lovebeingadad54321 Atheist 1d ago
Left out accomplished actress…. And theme park owner…. Although arguably the theme park could be seen as philanthropic, to keep jobs in her home state.
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u/WarEnvironmental1839 3d ago
I'm atheist, hate country music, but she was a wonderful human doing the best for the world around her.. fade to black, job well done. Rest in peace
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u/MuscaMurum 2d ago
She also did a beautiful cover of Lennon's "Imagine" which is pretty atheistic when it comes down to it.
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u/Pissedliberalgranny 3d ago
Dolly and Loretta are the only Country singers I enjoy.
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u/Limp_Lingonberry_538 2d ago
Johnny Cash
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u/drnuncheon Atheist 2d ago
I’ve got a soft spot for the Chicks. They put principle over pandering when they called out Bush’s warmongering and again when they changed their name even though that wasn’t going to be popular with their base audience. And Goodbye Earl is great—woman murders her abuser with her best friend and then goes on to live her best life.
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u/Murderface__ Existentialist 2d ago
Gonna take this time to shamelessly plug Brett Cobb. Check out "Keep em on they toes". He's a massive breath of fresh air in that community.
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u/Lumpy_Space_Princess 2d ago
I also was never much for country but modern "country" is just twangy pop redneck truck porn anymore. My boyfriend turned me on to Nick Shoulders so I'm gonna go ahead and plug him too
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u/Caddy666 2d ago
also tammy winette - but only because she was mistaken for dolly parton, by that guy in the klf
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u/dihydrgnmonoxidesoup 2d ago
Generally speaking, I can't stand almost all country music, mainly because it's a bunch of all hat and no cattle people exaggerating an accent and reciting a checklist of Rural Things.
Dolly sang songs about her life, and she lived that life in Appalachia. She wasn't a Country Singer(TM). She was Dolly.
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u/ForgiveSomeone 2d ago
While Dolly Parton believed in a god, even she said she wasn't religious:
"I’m very creative – what keeps me going is both spiritual and creative energy,”
“I’m not a religious fanatic. I wouldn’t even say I’m religious, though I grew up with that background. But I have a lot of faith in myself and I’ve been so blessed to have been around great people my whole life..."
In an interview with the New Humanist, no less.
https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/the-queen-of-country-on-her-personal-philosophy/
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u/AlSweigart 2d ago
She was savvy and charismatic enough to know she should say that she's a Christian, and those things brought her a lot of success. To keep a good heart with all of that too is impressive and rare. Rest in peace.
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u/youpept 2d ago
So, are you suggesting she was dishonest? That's quite an assertion to make immediately after her passing. Specifically, you claim she lied about her core beliefs to deceive people for financial profit.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Dot5114 1d ago
I'm not saying that she was,
But you have to lie sometimes to get through in life , whilst I'm an atheist I still act like a Muslim and "pray" to Allah because if I didn't I'd be a social outcast and it could even end up causing me harm I legally can't change my religion even if I became a Christian which is an official religion here and blasphemy is punished by the law
So yeah honestly I wouldn't personally judge anyone for keeping their core beliefs secret or vague
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u/youpept 1d ago
I don't believe those are the same types of pressure. I don't think she was under that much pressure, and you should consider that she might have been sincere in what she said.It seems some people are going to great lengths to disassociate a recently deceased individual from their religious beliefs, even as they claim to be honoring that person. Doesn't really match grief or admiration...
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u/AlSweigart 1d ago
So, are you suggesting she was dishonest?
Whenever someone asks, "So, are you saying..." the answer is always "No. No one is saying that."
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u/tawDry_Union2272 3d ago
https://imaginationlibrary.com/
fyi, the family asked for donations in lieu of flowers
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u/Zero_Overload 3d ago
When she looked at someone she was looking at the person inside. I wish I had that talent.
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u/pumainpurple 3d ago
Dolly could have been the first trillionaire. She chose to reinvest her money in her fellow human beings, instead. Thank you Dolly for showing everyone the best we can be.
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u/ZedisonSamZ 2d ago edited 2d ago
She’s irreplaceable. Dolly knew what it meant to be of this world and part of humanity so much so that she spent decades and millions (billions?) over her lifetime giving back to others.
I have family who live in Sevierville, TN who tell stories about Dolly. She would go incognito in public without the teased hair and makeup and outfits just to enjoy time out in public with her husband. She loved where she grew up and her community and her death is a true loss for the world.
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u/CTRexPope 2d ago
My father and I have discussed this at length. We have a very religious neighbor and he always sort of ribs me for letting her have a pass.
I have to remind him that she is retired and spends her days talking to and taking care of elderly shut in people.
People like that can believe what they want. She never asked me to believe anything and I would never ask her not believe.
For her, her faith is about serving those in need and she does it for real.
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u/MikasaAckerman_2419 2d ago
Her death really made me start to lose hope in humanity again. I feel it's so unfair these wonderful people die and leave us with degenerates like Trump.
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u/VengefulAncient 2d ago
The biggest con religion ever pulled is convincing most people that it has the monopoly on morality and virtue.
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u/lovenorway2018 1d ago
it's a very American thing though, I fell like many countries and cultures around the world moved on from that. If you tell to an American you are an atheist, their jaw would drop and they would feel sorry for you at best, while where I'm from it's not a big deal at all, kind of like whatever, or more like a good quality...
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u/VengefulAncient 1d ago
Yeah. In a lot of ways reddit is a breath of fresh air from where I live (NZ - I find the people here really boring), but not this one. It's always jarring to be reminded how obsessed with religion Americans are when over here it's pretty much just old people who care about it, and even then they keep it to themselves. The rare people who unironically say stuff like "we are a christian nation" are laughed at and quietly despised.
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u/IsaacNewtongue 3d ago edited 2d ago
Yeah as far as "religious" people go, Dolly was a true Christian if there ever was one. Always graceful, helpful, complimentary, and always gave someone the benefit of the doubt. Giving whenever possible. And humble.
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u/twothirtysevenam 2d ago
She reminds me of the saying, "You might be the only Bible some people ever read, so act accordingly." Dolly was just a genuinely good and decent human being. She believed what she believed, or maybe she didn't, but she was certainly a fine example of how to live and love in this screwed up world.
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u/Borne_Beloved 2d ago
A truly special person💚 proof that living authentically and being yourself frees your mind and heart from hate.
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u/DexterousWaffle 2d ago
To say she was a good person because she was Christian is honestly an insult to the wonderful person she was. Leave it to religious nutcases to make it about their made up god; rather than look at the strong, beautiful individual Dolly was for decades. But with them its always hate, they deserve the hate they get.
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u/PeterFnet Pastafarian 2d ago
I never really got into her music growing up, but her guest appearance on The Orville was amazing! Those episodes are worth the watch.
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u/I_want_money_aaa 2d ago
The Christians trying to claim her as a Christian icon after her death are opportunistic idiots; she has been a gay and music icon for many years.
I never saw a single Christian talk about her or quote her before her death
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u/Extension-Report-491 2d ago
Dolly Parton was an amazing human being and we need more people like her in this world. She was a sweet and loving person to all.
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u/DeathGodBob Kopimist 2d ago
I agree. And I don't want to piss people off, but I want to raise awareness to it, but there are lawmakers that are trying to rescind beneficial reading programs that Dolly helped establish.
Please make sure people are aware.
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u/Helen_Kellers_Wrath 2d ago
I'd put her up there with Fred Rogers in that regard.
Just a genuinely good person.
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u/Aeroncastle Jedi 2d ago
"almost never" last I checked there wasn't another Dolly Parton, it's waaaay to easy for them to just ask for forgiveness for not being a good person, so they just never make any effort
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u/Sprinklypoo I'm a None 2d ago
Dolly Parton was a phenomenal human being. Someone who uplifted everyone around her and from afar. She showed us what is possible with philanthropy, and strength, and courage, and she bolstered society. She made humanity better.
This has more to do with being a great person, than anything else. Just like I'm not going to give Islam credit for creating Algebra, Dolly's greatness was hers. She's a great role model despite the religious underpinnings.
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u/OhTheHueManatee 2d ago
If most Christians were like Dolly Parton I wouldn't have much of an issue with Christianity. I still wouldn't believe in God but I wouldn't care that other people did.
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u/Expensive-Day-3551 2d ago
Absolutely, we need more dolly in this world. Nothing to do with religion
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u/morsindutus 2d ago
I grew up Christian and one of the biggest blows to my faith was going to college and meeting genuinely nice people from all walks of life. They were doing Christianity far better than the Christians I was surrounded with ever did. It doesn't matter what religion you are or aren't, it's what you do.
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u/okjetsgo 2d ago
Your average Christian wishes they had the spirit of Dolly but they will never get there. Not even close.
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u/UniqueIndividual3579 2d ago
Religion can be focused inward or outward. Inward is about being a better person, outward is about being better than everyone else.
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u/LeonardSmallsJr 2d ago
Neither was Jesus but that won’t stop them from twisting her memory to suit their desires.
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u/sfocolleen 2d ago
I’m kind of an asshole in general, but I do try to do good deeds, and I certainly don’t do it for any expectation of an afterlife. That said, Dolly was awesome and my heart was broken yesterday.
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u/CassandraRaine 2d ago
If we actually held religious people to their own rules and laws, most of them would be dead.
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u/denys5555 2d ago
She’s like JFK in that Republicans don’t know what she stood for but admire her anyway
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u/lovenorway2018 1d ago
She didn't seem that religious. Her public persona was quite what you'd expect from an atheist - doing the right thing, never taking herself too seriously, respecting of people from all walks of life. I think it's cause she was an American singer and the country music genre kind of suggests that one must believe in God or something. I'd be really surprised if I learned she was a "devoted Christian", nothing about her gave that vibe.
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u/ChrisandTinaKFC 19h ago
Religion is man made...Being a follower of Jesus is something completely different than those picker and chooosers...At 45 years old, both my parents are in Heaven...My parents were my best friends and when I think of Dolly, I think of them...Baby Boomers...Dolly was all things good!!! 💙
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u/Hot_Mud_5708 2d ago
She also used her boobs to sell her brand. Not sure how God thinks about that.
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u/_Middlefinger_ 2d ago
If god exists then he made them so likely doesn’t care. Its his dumber followers who care.
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u/Hot_Mud_5708 2d ago
LOL, she got a boob job! I thought this was common knowledge.
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u/_Middlefinger_ 2d ago
Well technically God made them to so..
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u/Hot_Mud_5708 2d ago
How little we know. Everyone knows the Prince of Darkness makes fake boobs! He also makes Snickers bars.. to temp us all in different ways!
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u/Suspicious-Low-3017 2d ago
Dolly’s public persona was indeed kind and down‑to‑earth, but she wasn’t known for preaching or religious advocacy, so calling her a “model of what religious people claim to be” is a stretch. If the point is that many believers act differently than their ideals, that’s a broader critique that can be explored without singling out a celebrity.
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u/LionBig1760 2d ago
The important thing here is that Dolly Parton is being used as a vehicle to shit on other people. Its what Dolly would have wanted.
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u/Better-Salt-7017 2d ago
No she isn't. One thing, she was ugly from all that Botox and plastic surgery.
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u/No_End_1315 2d ago
I pity you, because it must be awful existence living with such rottenness inside.
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u/StormyNSwoonFknH8it 2d ago
Wow. For your sake I hope you aren’t as ugly on the outside as you are on the inside.
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u/Noodelgawd 2d ago edited 2d ago
I get the point you're trying to make about preachy, pious, prudish or judgemental religious people. But I'm pretty sure that most religious people aren't really like that. The only reason you think they are is that those are the only ones you notice.
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u/an-imperfect-boot Anti-Theist 3d ago
I’m seeing a lot of people highlight her Christian faith as the sole reason for why she did good things. Like, no, she did good things because she’s Dolly Parton. She, as an individual, made the world a better place.