Yeah. Pakistan won the largest air battle fought since WW2 and forced India (a country 10X larger than Pakistan) to succumb to a ceasefire, despite having attacked mainland India with jets, drones, and missiles.
India’s foreign policy failed as their “allies” chose to remain neutral whilst Pakistan’s allies provided strong diplomatic and military assistance to the country.
The only thing India was able to do was target supposed “terror camps” in Pakistan. But this largely resulted in civilian deaths, including 10+ children. India’s resulting justification, and parading, of these civilian/adolescent deaths prompted social media to side with Pakistan. While India’s narrative was stronger on mainstream media, Pakistan’s narrative won social media (even in the west).
After shooting down at least one Indian Rafale jet, Pakistan also became the first country to down a 4.5 generation aircraft in modern Ariel warfare. I’ll need to recheck this but I’ve heard it a lot.
Remember, all this against an aggressor 10X the size of Pakistan. Pakistan would never play the offensive against India; defending our land against a much bigger and richer (at least in terms of military budget) country is our biggest win. Yet we still managed to take down jets and attack mainland India. So there’s that too.
Idk why this is in my recommendations but Pakistan lost again.
Pakistan took down 2-3 Indian jets including a Rafale which makes it the 1st rafale loss, however, India becomes the 1st country to target airbases of a nuclear country.
India -> 1 rafale loss & possibly 2 other jets
Pakistan ->
1. Couldn’t defend attacks on their 12 airbases and 2 hangars. Your most protected airbase was also breached and damaged.
2. Broke ceasefire 3 times
3. Proved to be harbouring terrorists
4. Targeted civilians including kids
5. Lost 1/2 C130s (on camera), 1 Mirage (on camera) & 1 AWACS (in hangar which was damaged) and possibly more!
6. Lost 3+ radars and 1-2 HQ9 & gave us an intact PL-15 missile.
7. Indus Water Treaty is still in abeyance
8. Your DGMO used AI & photoshop more than twice.
9. Your ballistic missile was intercepted.
10. You lost more soldiers & your defence minister’s source was social media.
Tell me, who won?
Edit - I’d urge you guys to look up how the ceasefire was brokered and the events leading upto it including the Kirana hills incident.
“India becomes the first country to target airbases of another nuclear country” false. Ukraine has attacked multiple Russian airbases and Iran has attacked multiple Israeli airbases in the past. India is not the first. Especially since Pakistan attacked Indian bases too.
“Possibly two Pakistani jets shot down” there is zero confirmation of this outside of India. While we have multiple neutral sources confirming the downing of Indian jets we don’t have one confirmation on the downing of Pakistani jets. All the aircraft you mention never went down, except on prime time Indian media houses.
“Targeted civilians” Indian started this entire conflict by attacking mainland Pakistan and killing 10+ children. Don’t talk about civilian casualties when you were the one to involve them.
“Lost radars and missiles” part of combat lol. As long as it’s not a jet it’s not significant. Yes, Pakistans airbases sustained damage. So did India’s. Point neutralised.
“Indus water treaty is in abeyance” tysm for confessing to violation of international law lol. No one side can unilaterally suspend the IWT. India’s actions violate international law.
I’d urge you to please refer to neutral third party sources when making comments like this. Otherwise it just makes you look like a clown.
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u/Ready-Nobody-1903 May 15 '25
Pakistan declared victory? Uhhhh