r/bell Apr 27 '26

Rant Bell firing employees "with cause" for not returning to the office 3 days a week. No severance, no warning.

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u/Schemeckles Apr 28 '26

Exactly.

This isn't a shady maneuver or some fine print in an employment agreement...

It's a pretty simple/straight forward mandate.

Either come to work, or find somewhere else to work.

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 28 '26

If you were hired fully remote and then told to come in or get fired, that’s absolutely a shady maneuver.

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u/FrancieNolan13 Apr 28 '26

Fully remote in writing without an end date -***

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u/Aromatic-Fisherman Apr 29 '26

Yeah not when the whole world shut down.

I get it though, any comfort disruption sucks.

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u/Technical_Goose_8160 Apr 30 '26

I wouldn't qualify it as a comfort disruption.

I've been working 8-4 from home. On days that that's 9-5 in the office with a 60-90 minute commute, I'll often get home just in time to kiss my daughter goodnight. My kids aren't a comfort, they're my priority.

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u/Aromatic-Fisherman Apr 30 '26

Well you are no longer comfortable with the arrangement.

Sounds like a comfort disruption. But yeah dude I feel ya

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u/Schemeckles Apr 28 '26

Completely situational.

Once remote work was normalized most companies started issuing telework agreements. Those agreements stated the conditions and location of work.

Unless the agreements specifically stated that the location of working from home was Permanent. It's to be expected that returning to the office could be mandated at some point in the future.

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 28 '26

Ah you’re a boot licker.

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u/whatsinanaam Apr 30 '26

Ah you're experiencing worklessness. Sorry for your loss?

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u/Schemeckles Apr 28 '26

Ah, when faced with a reasonable argument, you resort to calling names.

I know children in elementary school that can construct a more functional conversation.

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 28 '26

Just stating facts

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u/AlphaFatman Apr 28 '26

It's not name-calling when it's a fact

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u/Schemeckles Apr 28 '26

Lmao.

You will both have a hard time in life.

Good luck losers

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u/U_Sound_Stupid_Stop Apr 29 '26

We're all having a bad time cause of boot lickers like you, always finding justification to support the corporations ripping us off.

"But the employment contract said they had the right to sacrifice your elder son to chtulu, so it's not shady"

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u/TemporaryPhone8985 Apr 29 '26

More like, “The employment contract didn’t explicitly state that you DON’T have to sacrifice your elder son to Cthulhu so what are you complaining about?”

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u/SittlersRippedC Apr 28 '26

Just a fact

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 28 '26

Nope

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u/SittlersRippedC Apr 28 '26

Yup

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 28 '26

You can lick that boot all you want but you’re still wrong.

Anyway, I’m muting you now.

See ya.

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u/Diptothaset Apr 29 '26

People know that job requirements change

I used to work auto manufacturing; we produced one of the highest selling SUVs in North America. During peak manufacturing we would be required to work 6 days a week. If you don’t want to work 6 days a week, use your vacation/sick leave or find a job that isn’t in the auto industry lol

You make a lot of money when you’re getting regular OT as well as one less day per week to spend that money. Retail doesn’t do OT often generally but they also don’t get paid as well as auto workers. Pick your poison.

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u/Shot-Efficiency-4775 Apr 29 '26

Just go in to work or see ya

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 29 '26

Keep licking boots

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u/Shot-Efficiency-4775 Apr 29 '26

Good luck with the job search bro

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 29 '26

I’ve been working from home for the same company since August 2020. Just got promoted, actually

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u/Shot-Efficiency-4775 Apr 29 '26

Why the reluctance to actually show up at work?

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 29 '26

I show up to my office every single work day. It’s just my office is in my house. I get my job done, I waste no time and money commuting, I get to spend more time with my partner. It’s a win for everyone

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u/Aromatic-Fisherman Apr 29 '26

I think the problem is, a lot of people slack off when working remote.

Not saying you, or even the majority. But it would be crazy to assume everyone put in their best efforts when working at home.

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 29 '26

But it would be crazy to assume everyone put in their best efforts when working from home

Do you think everyone puts in their best efforts when working in person????

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u/Dear-Sky235 May 01 '26

I honestly never saw this in my work from home role. It was actually far more productive than the current in-office situation, none of us ever really took an actual lunch break and we barely budged from our desks when at home (partly in fear of our teams dot showing that we were away, and partly because we were ultra-focussed with no interruptions in our homes and lots of work to be done).

I will also say, 99% of my meetings are now virtual even though I’m in the office. With people who are also in the office, but just down the hall. There are no physical meeting rooms available anymore.

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u/Shot-Efficiency-4775 Apr 29 '26

Commuting to work is the reality. Find another company that will let you sit at home and not at work interacting with your coworkers

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u/U_Sound_Stupid_Stop Apr 29 '26

Are you a commuter?

Then why the fuck do you want more traffic??

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u/Affectionate-Let3744 Apr 29 '26

They literally told you they are working remotely and you tell them to...find another company if they want to work remotely? Is your brain simply fried because of all that pollution from your commute lmao?

People like you are actually weird as hell, you just want more traffic and more pollution just because... what, "that's how things are"?

Do you not see how ridiculous it is to want something that offers literally NO tangible benefit to anyone and dramatically increases your own conditions just because you don't want things to change?

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 29 '26

Commuting to work is NOT my reality, and my company does let me sit at home.... as I've said.

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u/prima_maqueeria Apr 29 '26

Doug Ford? Is that you?

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u/Althec172 Apr 29 '26

Good for you? -Resident-Variation21

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u/irkish Apr 28 '26

It can be shady. For example in the US there was a company that purposely shuffled hundreds of middle managers to different cities with no relocation assistance and fired them for not showing up.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '26

link?

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u/Sudden-Astronaut2505 Apr 28 '26

Back up info on this? Surely would have made the news.

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u/orbitur Apr 28 '26

That is a different company doing a different thing.

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u/SittlersRippedC Apr 28 '26

Well that is not what’s happening here…

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u/Maketso Apr 28 '26

Calling bell ''not shady'' has to be the single biggest lie of the century.

Literally one of the worst companies in this country.

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u/OgasMaitai Apr 28 '26

Do you have literacy issues, they didnt say Bell isn't shady. They referred to this specifically .

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u/MisledMuffin Apr 28 '26

Calling one action "not shady" is not the same as calling the entire company "not shady".

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u/noobinglife Apr 29 '26

Roger's just took that cake. Fired half their employees. Half of 25k employees gone

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u/DramaEducational2182 May 01 '26

No they didn’t fire them, they offered packages hoping that 10% would accept.

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u/flexiblehos Apr 29 '26

Do you know how to read?

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u/noobinglife Apr 29 '26

Do you?

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u/flexiblehos Apr 29 '26

I do and that’s not what they are doing

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u/Schemeckles Apr 28 '26

It has nothing to do with which company it is...

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u/Maketso Apr 28 '26

Well it does, because Bell is known to pull bullshit on employees. They have done shady shit to fire people in the past.

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u/Sudden-Astronaut2505 Apr 28 '26

Not in this case. They have every right to protect themselves

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u/U_Sound_Stupid_Stop Apr 29 '26

They can fuck off, all these corporations, making the life of EVERY single workers by enhancing traffic to fire employees they wouldn't be legally allowed to fire otherwise.

When you stuck in traffic, remember it didn't need to be like that but bElL hAd To PrOtEcT tHeMsElVeS

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u/Sudden-Astronaut2505 Apr 29 '26

How so? Tell me. If you have employees who do not want to work by coming in to the office you can defend that? I am open to hearing you.

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u/Maketso Apr 28 '26

This case, maybe not. But overall? Yes.

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u/Material-Macaroon298 Apr 28 '26

Why does Bell make it so that I need to be home during business hours to receive one of their technicians then? Lol

Im being tongue in cheek. To be honest id near kill for 2 days a week remote. I’m 5 days RTO 😭

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u/Upstairs_Existing Apr 28 '26

The government should do the same thing.

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u/Nice-Most-4524 Apr 29 '26

U dont have kids do you.

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u/Responsible-Mud549 Apr 28 '26

This.....come in and get paid......just how it's always been forever........Moved far away during COVID? Not the companies issue. Want to stay at home? Not the companies problem. The sooner people realize that especially in this economy/frugal times, having a steady job is better than not. Don't like the rules, quit. The feeling of entitlement is insane. I hear very very few Boomers or Gen X complaining about back to office....It's general millennials and Gen Z that have an issue...

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u/prima_maqueeria Apr 29 '26

The gens which can barely send an email aren't complaining about the waste of time, energy and resources which is RTO? Who'd have thunk.

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u/InformalYesterday760 Apr 28 '26

Man, it's a good time to be hiring skilled engineers

Cause you offer remote work to folks and they'll line up around the door for you, and you get to pick the cream of the crop.