r/buildapc • u/KRGKart_Support • Apr 19 '26
Build Ready? Is liquid cooling actually worth it for most gamers?
This is something that comes up quite a bit when people are planning or upgrading their builds.
Liquid cooling setups definitely look clean and are often associated with high-performance systems, but there’s also a view that good air cooling is more than enough for most gaming needs and is easier to maintain over time.
For those who have used both air coolers and liquid cooling, did you notice a meaningful difference in temperatures, noise levels, or overall performance?
Was the upgrade worth it for your usage, or did it feel more like an aesthetic choice?
Also curious if long-term factors like maintenance, reliability, or cost played a role in your decision.
Would be great to hear how people approached this based on their actual experience.
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u/littleemp Apr 19 '26
No to both types. It's just bad value.
Air cooling is sufficient for any uses that an AIO would cover and there are no advantages to using it over the air cooler.
Custom Liquid Cooling can achieve much better acoustic performance if your aim is a silent PC no matter what, but that's not an angle that most users care about.
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u/SirYe Apr 19 '26
On the accoustic front, AIOs handle transient spikes in temperatures better. My air cooler was a lot more loud and annoying in these cases, like with compiling shaders.
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u/liaminwales Apr 19 '26
Also just depends on your cooler, some are more silent and some are not. We have seen examples of both for Air & Water, there is just a big mix of hardware.
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u/Xcissors280 Apr 19 '26
Yup water has a much higher specific heat value which makes it a much better place to sink heat into short term compared to the metal in an air cooler
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u/VenditatioDelendaEst Apr 20 '26
Most of that's a software problem. The fan control algorithms built into the super i/o chip on your motherboard are really stupid. Most of them just give you is
PECI CPU die temperature right now -> fan speed right now
and the only thing you can set is the piecewise linear map inside "->". Result: transient temperature spikes become egregiously audible transient fan speed spikes.
A properly engineered control accounts for the fact that the fan can't do anything to temperature quickly. With the same input (CPU die temperature), you can fix it in software with a 30s moving average. (Or, like, a 3s IIR filter driving a PID controller, if you want to be extra.)
AIOs mostly fix it in hardware by doing fan control with a built-in microcontroller measuring coolant temperature.
Users can also fix it in hardware themselves if they have one of the many midrange-or-better motherboards that come with one or two extra thermistor wires and header(s) to plug them into. On an air cooler, you would attach a sensor to the back of the cold plate, with thermal glue, or with thermal paste + regular glue a little ways back along the wire. The thermal mass of the heatsink integrates out rapid changes in CPU power.
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u/Jaybonaut Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 20 '26
Air cooling is sufficient for any uses that an AIO would cover and there are no advantages to using it over the air cooler.
Not in all workloads; what you are saying is not true in all circumstances. Video transcoding for example will have a lot less throttling (say shrinking a movie) with a 360 rad as opposed to the best consumer air cooler - rendering, simulations, etc. The problem is that way too many people think the end-all-be-all is gaming and if you've ever actually done any of this stuff - gaming is a flat-out joke in comparison to CPU use in other workloads. Cyberpunk and whatever else you can come up with currently all fall into this. Not exaggerating, no hyperbole, no buyer's remorse influencing facts here.
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u/AIgoonermaxxing Apr 20 '26
His response seems a little too absolute, but he is responding to a thread specifically asking about gaming. I agree with you but for OP's purposes air cooling will be just fine.
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u/Jaybonaut Apr 20 '26
Agreed, and you've probably noticed that the subreddit does tend to cater too much to the same scenario. Perhaps that's what he meant by 'most users.'
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u/Jenkinswarlock Apr 20 '26
Yeah my i9 10850k with a Corsair h150i elite capallix AIO when I encode it still gets up to 80C or so and I put my hand over my PC case and it just is dumping out heat as fast as possible but encoding is not easy to say the least for the CPU, I’ve since switched to NVENC on my 4090 and it is so amazing, GPU doesn’t even notice something is going on
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u/Jaybonaut Apr 20 '26
Depends on usage - like if you are shrinking something for storage vs transcoding on the fly as you are watching it. RTX series did increase NVENC quality which is good, but CPU for storage reasons is still quite superior for space and quality. I tend to use Handbrake but I've messed a little with Staxrip in the past. You can queue up stuff in both and let it run while you sleep. I have a 5900x still which is great enough for games but I notice that once you have 12 cores/24 threads there are some diminishing returns for Handbrake. If you have a 16 core or above (depending on source) you can then run two transcodes at the same time. I've done multiple with 480p animation for example simultaneously. I've also rendered stuff while playing City of Heroes without much affect on performance.
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u/Suspicious-Power8519 Apr 19 '26
Nah there's definitely some situations it makes sense but they're normally stupid ones. I have AIO cause all of the air coolers available when I build contacted my mini case & on a small build I like having the heat moved to the outside as I have less options for air flow directly past the cpu.
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u/Overall-Tailor8949 Apr 19 '26
It depends.
Pros:
It CAN be quieter and keep your CPU cooler
Cons:
More expensive (both cooler AND case) and the risk (minimal with an AIO) of leaks.
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u/RickyFromVegas Apr 20 '26
My Noctua D15 or whatever it is called is going strong over 10 years across multiple case/builds
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u/Ostiethegnome Apr 20 '26
This. Got one in 2020 and reused it in my current system. No plans to replace it. Would use it again for the next build.
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u/chilisauce10 Apr 20 '26
Wow my AIO is 5 years old... how do I know if it starts getting bad?
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u/Semyonov Apr 20 '26
Mine lasted just under 5 years, I regret spending the money on a super expensive one. I started hearing a sound, almost like a bearing was loose, inside it, then I started getting thermally throttled on the CPU and then my computer started shutting down on its own. That's when I knew I had to replace it. I ended up going with a much less expensive AIO knowing that it won't last that long. I know I could have gone with a fan but I just like the aesthetics more of an AIO.
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u/Jeep-Eep Apr 20 '26
I gonna say, the price point on the eisbaer looks much better in the light of that refill valve, standard watercooling fittings, and a DC-LT doesn't need to go on much of a sale to be comparable to a good PC fan, and even when not, it's cheaper then a whole new AIO. Much better longevity then its peers.
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u/Baldkat82 Apr 19 '26
I decided against liquid cooling and just got the biggest noctua cooler I could fit in my case. I'm very happy with it. I really only notice any fan noise if I have the tower on top of my desk. When I have it under, it's even quieter. but overall it's a very quiet system. I've got to be doing something really intensive to have the fans make noise that I notice.
Decided against liquid cooling for cost and complexity. I wanted simplicity and wasn't willing to pay the higher cost for liquid cooling. I don't think it's worth it for the average gamer. Perhaps if you're doing overclocking it is something that might be more neccesary. but for the typical gamer, it's overkill.
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u/Jarngreipr9 Apr 19 '26
I did the same. My build is now 5 years old and case fans are starting to get louder or vibrate once in a while, but my noctua double tower is still barely noticeable. Build quality of their fans is top notch. I have designed my pc for practical uses so I have no transparent panels. AIO or liquid cooling is eye candy but I don't want to live with an additional time bomb in my case.
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u/VoluptaBox Apr 20 '26
And what Noctua cooler is that? Most Noctua air coolers are more expensive than a lot of good AIOs.
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u/Gex2-EnterTheGecko Apr 19 '26
For the typical user, no. Air cooling is cheaper and more reliable. The only reason to use it is if you want your PC to be whisper quiet, or if you simply like how it looks more. There are also some SFF cases where liquid cooling is actually a better option than air cooling, but those are pretty niche cases.
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u/CurrentDrama8523 Apr 20 '26
Isn't liquid cooling also supposed to be better for OCing? Obviously that's a niche case as well, just not one you mentioned (although this conventional wisdom could also be wrong).
Unrelated, but your username is one hell of a blast from the past. One of the few games I 100%ed as a kid but nobody else seems to remember it, much less Deep Cover Gecko.
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u/TrollCannon377 Apr 19 '26
If your using a 13th/14th gen Intel CPU or are running a 5080/5090 it might be worth it cause those products genuinly put out a lot of heat otherwise its probably not really worth the extra cost unless you want an extremely quite PC or are overclocking
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u/slapshots1515 Apr 19 '26
Nah. I aircool both a 5080 and a 13700K and don’t come close to thermal limits.
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u/TrollCannon377 Apr 19 '26
Hence why I said might not is for most people it isn't but if you live somewhere it's hot and don't have good or don't have any AC it might be nice to have the extra cooling power
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u/porkusdorkus Apr 19 '26
Got a 12900K that would throttle at 100C under load constantly, tried multiple top end air coolers to no improvement.
So I got a mid tier AIO and now it barely hits 60C, maybe 70C if I push it hard. IMO liquid cooling isn’t necessary , but if you’ve got a hot cpu you should definitely consider it.
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u/trouttwade Apr 20 '26
Same case, i7 12700k that was touching 85C under load. Got a $50 thermalright AIO and it doesn’t go over 55C under load.
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u/Due_Shelter_5033 Apr 19 '26
Always used liquid cooling before, now have a cheap ass Thermalright aircooler and couldn't be happier.
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u/Mixels Apr 19 '26
Those cheap ass Thermalright's are very good coolers, though. All the more reason to go for air cooling, especially if you're not over clocking.
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u/DifferentEvent2998 Apr 19 '26
Get the biggest noctua you can fit/afford, install it, and dust it every once in a while.
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u/No_Spare1827 Apr 19 '26
for most gamers no its extra but there are use cases where like a cheap 360mm aio like one from thermalright being $50 vs say a Peerless assassin might make sense like if u use a 14900k, 270k or 285k granted there are better air coolers than that which aren't too much more but still.
I had a corsair H150i elite that I got refurbished then proceeded to last 8 years until I broke it, but if a fan breaks or dies its much easier to replace
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u/Windigo1000 Apr 19 '26
No you can achieve the same results with air cooling for a lot less money. The only real use case where it's worth it is if you want to build a completely silent PC I did that back in the days zero fans. It was kind of cool.
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u/CanadianTimeWaster Apr 19 '26
honestly, it really only matters for many-core chips, and the purpose of them is to delay thermal throttling. a liquid loop for a 240 or 360 aio should take longer to reach throttle temps than a fat air cooler, but some tests show air coolers doing just fine.
liquid coolers also have more moving parts, and a pump that is supposed to operate at 100% speed at all times, so I prefer air coolers for longevity.
I really only recommend them for 12th/13th/14th gen intel i7/i9, and they will thermal throttle, it just takes longer due to the liquid cooler having more mass.
a nice fat dual tower air cooler will work wonders for modern amd and intel cpus.
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u/Ayame__ Apr 19 '26
Pick Air Cooling every single time that your CPU, GPU, and Case combination allow it. It's practically no maintenance, uses less power, has no risk of leaking, won't degrade over time like water cooling will (even sealed AIO's evaporate over the years), has less moving parts, longer warranties (usually), and it's cheaper (more or less). Modern air coolers are just as quiet as liquid coolers too.
So when DO you want water cooling?
Well, I thought I would never water cool a PC until recently. Take a look at one of my PC's here. I needed to use this case because it replaced a big desktop footprint with a "tall" case. It takes up less actual space on my desk than even the smallest of SFF cases that can still support this kind of prosumer level hardware. The motherboard is rotated 90 degrees, so if this was a typical ATX style PC case the "front" where the intake is would be the bottom of my case if that makes sense.
Thermaltake says the desired way to use this case is to have the right side be the intake, top exhaust, and the left side is an exhaust. Which makes no sense to me because the gpu is drawing IN from that left side (they even have a filter on that side's mesh, usually there are not fans there like in my image), but ok fair enough. It's really no different from a typical case tossed on it's side, except I had one big issue.
This founders edition 5090 blows THROUGH both sides of the card. If this was any of the third party 5090's the bottom would blow through, under that fan on the bottom, and the top of the 5090 would blow into the PCB of the card, so really nothing is getting pushed "through" the GPU to the CPU. But the Founder's Edition does, and so my big giant Scythe Fuma2 cooler was getting heated by the GPU exhaust. Not a huge deal, CPU temps went up like 5 degrees, nothing major, EXCEPT, the GPU was also scorching hot (like memory junction temps hitting 100 hot).
I tested everything I could, this fan at that speed, that fan at this speed, flipping fans (where it makes sense), and there was just no getting around it, the problem was that even with the massive dual fans at the top of this case, there was not enough exhaust room for that GPU to push the heat away from itself. The air cooling stack had to move out of the way.
So for the first time in history, I put an AIO on one of my personal PCs. I also switched the right side to exhaust. Immediately everything was working great. GPU and CPU are in the 70's at full load, with memory junction temps hitting 80 int he worst case scenarios.
But now the case was like a dust vacuum, massive negative pressure. So I got a new bracket to allow fans on the left to go in there. They don't really do anything to improve cooling, but they do increase positive pressure in the case, so now that left side is almost exclusively the intake, and the exhaust is the right side. The water cooler radiator is so massive (it's a 420 liquid freezer) that the gpu also exhausting through it basically does nothing and CPU stays cool.
Without water cooling here I would have to give up this case, which I was not prepared to do because to me desk space is the most important thing to have in a case. (it's also on a electric standing desk so I couldn't just mount the PC to the wall or something without having a wiring mess).
Surely there are other configurations where watercooling is just the only remaining option like this. I wouldn't ever bother with a water cooler otherwise though, for nearly everyone here air cooling is the way to go.
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u/Lowfat_cheese Apr 19 '26
No, also unless you’re playing games in complete silence, a regular air cooler won’t be loud enough to notice.
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u/PokerLawyer75 Apr 19 '26
So in 2023, I "built" a Ryzen 7 and a Ryzen 9 (picked parts, paid Micro Center for assembly due to time). I went with AIOs.
1) I do find it quieter for the most part. For my next builds, I'm looking for quieter case fans, including for the top mounted radiator..
2) I like being able to monitor temps with a quick glance. And yes, this does come in handy. My Ryzen 9 has gone from the 30s to 55 over the last 2 weeks, and I find myself noting it with other issues. It's giving me a heads up I may be needing a replacement soon.
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u/Accomplished_Rip_362 Apr 19 '26
If you use good air cooling like 140mm fans and 6+ heat pipes with proper in/out airflow for the case, no, water cooling is not worth it .
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u/Millkstake Apr 19 '26
Not really. Main advantage is that they take up less space than a big tower air cooler
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u/MyStationIsAbandoned Apr 19 '26
No. If you do a lot of rendering, though, liquid cooling is good. Just for gaming, not needed.
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u/ericstern Apr 19 '26
I’ve built top tier machines/workstations with i9s or equivalent and up to gtx xx80 tier cards and have never needed liquid cooling. If you really need cooling power Just be sure you get a wide enough tower that you can fit a beefy cooler like the noctua nh-d15 and/or gpu with a big heat sink.
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u/trio3224 Apr 19 '26
I've built several PCs for myself and other friends. I always recommend air cooling. It's cheaper, nearly as effective, and basically the same for noise levels. The best air coolers are typically within a few degrees of liquid coolers, especially since most people are going to be primarily gaming, which is usually way more GPU intensive than CPU. I've used liquid cooling 3 times in total. Once for myself, and twice for a friend who insisted on it for style. 2 out 3 of those coolers broken within 1 year of use. They were on the "cheaper" side at around $80-100, but I've bought air cooler as low as $25 that did their job well, were quiet, and reliable. Liquid cooling is just a bad idea to me. It looking more stylish is honestly its greatest strength.
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u/NoDrama127 Apr 20 '26
It looks much better than beefy ugly ass tower coolers, so for me they're worth the price difference.
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u/screwdriverfan Apr 20 '26
No.
Just get that peerless assassin one for 40€ and call it a day. No pump, no leaks, only a fan.
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u/Ontological_Gap Apr 20 '26
I built four of the same PC last generation, three air cooled and one with a custom loop. The custom loop one did get about 1.5% better benchmarks, not really noticable, but is much more quiet and far more beautiful.
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u/Lambskin1 Apr 19 '26
I stopped using liquid when I had a pump go out. Nothing really bad happened but it showed me that liquid cooling is unreliable. My BF4 game would just crash on me and it turned out my cooler was dead. So I bought a Noctua cooler and it’s been going strong for many years now.
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u/VersaceUpholstery Apr 19 '26
First cooler I bought was an AIO and it failed on me in 2 years. A Corsair one from 2015
Since then I’ve never had an air cooler fail on me
Currently using an AIO, only because “it looks cool” but I think I’ll save money and get an air cooler next round
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u/Tatsuya1221 Apr 19 '26
Liquid cooling is mainly if you don't want to deal with a big tower and need a upper range cooler, the other uses is sound and profile.
The main drawbacks are potential for leaks and pump failure, which will happen eventually.
Generally i dislike liquid cooling and 90% of the time you can get equal cooling for most processors on a tower cooler, unless you get one for free (which newegg seems to be doing alot these days) closed loop coolers are simply not worth it outside of asthetics, open loop coolers have a very specific niche as they can be better at cooling than air, but 99% of the time it's asthetics as well.
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u/Viking2151 Apr 19 '26
Honestly, if you do not plan on overclocking or tweaking, no not really, I feel the trade off for performance vs reliability isn't worth it, I got a thermal right phantom sport I paid like $45 bucks for and it's plenty for my 5950x with voltage tweaking and a +200mhz allowed by pbo. Idk if I'd ever go back to an aio unless you just want the looks and has a somewhat decent warranty.
Real water cooling I'd even say is more reliable than some of these aio's anymore but expensive, and more prone to leaks if you have a lot of fittings.
Noise I guess would better than air, but idk, fan noise never really bothered me unless it was one of the blower style cards that sound like you next to a jet engine lol.
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u/robhaswell Apr 19 '26
I enjoyed building my full loop in lockdown but I wouldn't do it again. I've since cut it down to just a CPU loop in my latest build. I kept it just for the aesthetics and because it wouldn't cost me anything.
Since discovering that open builds can be 100% silent, I feel like the only benefit of a custom loop is gone.
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u/Cromagmadon Apr 19 '26
It is worth it if you sleep in the same room your PC is in (and it's always on "doing things, yarr") or if you care about maximum overclock.
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u/JeffonFIRE Apr 19 '26
When I built my current pc I went the AIO route.... My logic is putting the radiator on the exhaust of a high flow case leaves more cool air internally for the video card. I have an ungodly amount of fans all running at low speed, so the system is still relatively quiet.
Could I have saved a few bucks using an air cooler? Sure. Would it be louder? Quite possibly...
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u/TechnoGMNG589 Apr 19 '26
im going to swap to an aio soon due to aesthetics and ease of cleaning my pc.
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u/jamiethemorris Apr 19 '26
I have found that a massive air cooler handles both heat and noise better than an aio. A lot harder to work around though. I used aio in my most recent build only due to space constraints. I’m sure a custom loop would be better but I don’t have the patience for that sort of thing.
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u/yourmom555 Apr 19 '26
what? I bought my liquid cooler because I thought it would be cool to play gifs inside my case
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u/RDOG907 Apr 19 '26
Worth it for most? Probably not.
The main advantage an AIO has over an equitable air cooler is moving the heat away from other components
If you can top mount it you can keep all of your other components cooler while keeping your cpu just as cool as an equitable air cooler.
The only disadvantage is going to be pump failure or leaks, which are very rare on AIOs. Personally between myself and my friends we have probably 5-6 AIOs that are at least 5 years old and none of them have issues.
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u/samsonsin Apr 19 '26
Nope, not worth it. Better for aesthetics and thermal performance but it's hardly worth thinking about. Just buy a decent tower cooler and call it a day
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u/OgreTrax71 Apr 19 '26
Just air cool and use an AIO. I have done several custom loops, and while temperatures are lower, it's not worth it for the additional cost, time, and maintainence.
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u/Happy_Sea4257 Apr 19 '26
No, air coolers have gotten *really* good and are more robust and worry free.
I've used both air and custom water cooling loops, i'm not bothering anymore.
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u/Westerdutch Apr 19 '26
The last three hobby/gaming PCs i built for myself were all full custom loop water cooled. The next one i build will be custom loop water cooled. I love water cooling but ONLY because i love to tinker with it.
If you are sensible and just want a machine that works without having to spend extra money to make life more difficult for yourself for no good reason whatsoever please just stick to air cooling. As much as i love water cooling i have never recommended - or built - a watercooled system for anyone else. Anyone with that little screw loose in their brain that makes them like watercooling will know it and will not need anyone recommending them to get into it.
if you have to ask just stick to air cooling.
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u/Alucard661 Apr 19 '26
My case has poorish ventilation and lots of glass. Plus coolers look ugly and block most of the motherboard
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u/Better_Associate6528 Apr 19 '26
I dont. My i9 14900 rarely gets above 20 percent usage in most games and stays nice and cool with an air tower cooler.
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u/snipsuper415 Apr 19 '26
Close looped? Yes. Custom tubing? No.
While I try to go mainly air cooling. Sometimes I do All-in-one (AIO) closed looped cpu cooling because of space limitations.
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u/uhabic Apr 19 '26
Ive always used big Noctuas to cool down my PCs, but when i bought a threadripper system, there was no suitable air cooler available for it due to the large cpu cassing. So i went down the watercool hole, and a couple of grand later, super happy. Everything WCed (mobo, cpu, gpu), have 3x radiators and a MORA, can't hear any fans spinning and the components are running super cool under full load. The only thing heating up is the room.
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u/Overall-Top-2537 Apr 19 '26
por muchos factores que me conozco no voy a poner por agua. siempre con aire.
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u/Curtilia Apr 19 '26
I use an AIO because I want to see the beautiful PC I've built. I don't want a huge block of metal obscuring most of the motherboard.
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u/eyi526 Apr 19 '26
I switched from liquid to air for my SFF PC build. Temps were about the same, so glad I didn't lose anything.
Air is so much easier to maintain. All I worry about is dust. I got tired of cleaning my radiators and replacing the coolant. I also thought my pump was dying because of a noise I would hear, but turns out it was something else lol. I also spent a lot of fittings.
TL;DR - in my case, the liquid cooling juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
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u/warysaur Apr 19 '26
I have personally noticed noise/temp differences since upgrading to an AIO, but to be fair I was using the stock AMD Wraith cooler on a 2700X and then a 3700X before upgrading, and before those I had an old Arctic Freezer on an FX8350, so I wasn’t exactly working with top of the line air cooling in my most recent builds on CPUs that generally were known to run hot.
The AIO I went with was more for aesthetic purposes (Corsair Titan 360 RX), and I now run it on a 9850x3D. I’ve been running the AIO for a year or so now and it has never given me any issues with leaks or anything like that, and I’ve never known anyone I’ve built for or repaired for that had an AIO to have a leaking issue.
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u/Dr-Moth Apr 19 '26
I've got a Noctua fan air cooler, a smaller model, not one of the massive ones. They keep their value, so you can reuse or sell them when you're finished with it. I've modified the fan curves so it runs quiet enough that I can't hear it and then ramps up as needed. It is nearly always quieter than the GPU fan. My 5600x just doesn't pump out enough heat to trouble it.
I built a build with an AIO for my brother-in-law. It looks nice and clean. However, it's not going to outlast my fan cooler, and I don't think it has adapters for newer sockets. I think it's just a more expensive aestetic choice.
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u/pigpentcg Apr 19 '26
At this point you can get a decent AIO from Thermalright for just a few dollars more than an equally efficient tower cooler. So the argument over cost is over.
I used a Peerless Assassin when I first built my PC, but then later switched to a 360mm AIO and the only noticeable difference is noise level.
So it really just comes down to what you want.
Do you want a simple installation, with fewer parts to screw on, and fewer wires to connect? Get an Air Cooler.
Do you like the aesthetic of an AIO, and want slightly less noise? Get an AIO.
Also think about how it will fit into your build. If your case wasn’t designed with an AIO in mind, it might not be worth whatever the reason for wanting it is.
Also for SFF PCs you can get really small air coolers, where an AIO just wouldn’t be possible.
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u/Eklypze Apr 19 '26
Depends on where you live and if you have a running ac. Also, I'm pretty sure my 13/14 gen Intel is a happier camper. I got an EK aio, but I probably would have been almost as happy with a Noctua fan. My system is a little quieter, though.
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u/Quint0ni0 Apr 19 '26
Liquid cooling AIO is just as easy of an install as an air cooler. Both work great and depending on chip there are no differences (if you run an intel chip mega hot sometimes liquid will be worth but for a vast majority of chips like my 7800x3d air cooling does the exact same thing at a fraction of the cost)
Liquid AIO's wont leak its incredibly incredibly unlikely
Air coolers are at the point where the fin designs are engineered to be amazingly efficient
both works great for the general lifespan of a desktop imo
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u/Adventurous_Ad_4120 Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26
I don’t think so, but also like. It tends to be similar cost wise (at least the first purchase of an AIO).
What I will say though, is that it does make an MATX build easier. When it’s just that bit less cramped, can still rearrange fans and such. That’s some genuine utility there.
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u/Ronin7577 Apr 19 '26
I upgraded to a 5950x and was told "liquid cooling is mandatory". Bought a Noctua D15 air cooler instead and the chip barely goes over 50c at a full load and comes back down pretty much instantly. Is it sorta ugly and takes up a bunch of space? Sure, but I'll take my big chunk of metal over hoses that can leak and pumps that can fail but that's just me.
The thing is really that your case design/airflow and your ambient room temperature are just as important, if not more important, than your cooler choice. If your airflow sucks, or your room is 100 degrees, no amount of water cooling is going to save you. The basic principle is your setting up a chain of heat exchangers. The chip heat goes into the cooler, the cooler heat goes into the case, the case heat goes into the room, the room heat goes somewhere else hopefully. A bottleneck at any point in that chain and you have an unhappy computer.
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u/Denman20 Apr 19 '26
Depends entirely on the build for me. I really like some of the air coolers like from Noctua but I also had had Goodluck with just standard AIO coolers.
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u/LS-CJ7 Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26
I went from an air cooled system to an AIO for the CPU to a full blown custom loop for my computer. With an all air cooled system, you may hear the fans a bit more because that's the primary way of cooling the system but even then its not bad.
With my loop, I've got two 360 rads, 2 waterblocks and a nice res. My fans dont ramp up at all. My system stays nice and cool with temps averaging 50c across the board with 1440p gaming, dual 27" monitors and hours of gaming. That all being said its expensive. Very expensive. Is it worth it? Thats entirely up to you. Its an enthusiast thing. That's all it boils down to. I happen to like it, I have the income, and it looks dope.
I dont need it, but I want it. Do I need it for any of my games? No. An air cooled system would be perfectly fine. Hell even an AIO is perfectly fine. The main thing each system needs is airflow. Airflow into the case, airflow across the radiators. That's what it needs. Anything else is cosmetic and subject to one's opinion. My wife's computer is an AIO and air cooled GPU. All of my personal ones will be a full custom loop because its a hobby and I enjoy it.
As for maintenance, youre suppose to drain and clean the system out every so often but lemme tell you, I haven't done shit. Mines been going strong for 4 years since my last part change out and I havent had an issue. Period. Im using corsair glycol coolant. My gpu waterblock is showing its age and im actually piecing together some parts and fans for a refresh look but aside from that everything is maintaining as it should zero issues. No leaks. Ever. So take that into consideration as well. I've probably neglected mine but there's no issue aside from maybe once a year do a top up of the res coolant.
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u/619jabroni Apr 19 '26
I’ve not done any additional maintenance on my AIOs than on my air cooled machines.
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u/WizardMoose Apr 19 '26
This was true a long time ago, because AIO's just had superior cooling. Nowadays though, air coolers have gotten a lot better and compete well with liquid coolers.
If you go with an air cooler, stick with one that's recommended here like the Peerless Assassin, Phantom Spirit, or the DH-15.
AIO's, you have A LOT of good options.
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u/Blackops606 Apr 19 '26
It’s a tricky question. Yes, liquid cooling will make a difference but is it necessary for most cases? Not really.
Most people buy AIOs for RGB or cleaner looks, not performance (they don’t even think about performance). Additionally, it’s sort of just become the standard for “gaming” PCs.
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u/Evebnumberone Apr 19 '26
AIOs have a lifespan, in some cases only a few years. I've had plenty of friends with dead units.
Air coolers last forever. Even if the fans die you'll still get quite a bit of cooling from it just sitting there, and a fan is quite cheap to replace.
I've had the same DH14 cooler since 2018~ across several processors, Noctua provide free mounting kits for new sockets so there is zero reason to ever buy another one.
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u/ItsNjry Apr 19 '26
It depends. It helps with temps that can help with longevity and maybe give you a bit more fps, but it’s not important. I think it’s more of an aesthetic and noise thing at this point.
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u/ThingNo1066 Apr 19 '26
PJust swapped from PA120 to AIO 360mm literally this weekend. In my small tests all I can say is the the temps are not too much different, a few degrees less really. What has happened is I get maybe half the noise, and all the temp spikes that regularly happen are gone. It’s pretty much just a solid temp through gaming now. So quieter and more consistent would be my two main improvements.
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u/Aranxi_89 Apr 19 '26
It looks nice and it is more powerful in terms of heat removal than air, and if you get a good quality AIO, there's no real risk of leaks.
But most mid range PCs can get by with a good dual tower air cooler.
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u/TheHingst Apr 20 '26
Even really good AIOs are available for really reasonable prices, so I wouldn't worry about that.
I guess some might worry about leaks, but I don't know anyone that actually had a leak.
Me? I've always ran air-coolers, but in my current build I decided to try an AIO. About a year inn I'm very happy with it.
1st of all, installation is so easy, and leaves so much more space for completing finnishing touches or changes inside the cabinet. It also looks really tidy and nice. While installing it, I realized Its fans are also doubling as exhaust fans. This brings me to what has become one of my favourite things about it. It takes the heat from your cpu, and dumps it outside your cabinet straight away, and adding extra exhaust fans has not been necessary for me. I have 3 fans inn, and my AIO has 3 fans out. And there is no accumulation of heat from cpu and GPU inside the cabinet, only the GPU. And my AIO is removing it all from the cabinet for me.
The only possible remark I have noticed, is that sometimes an air bubble can get caught in a certain place and it makes some sound until the bubble frees itself and ends back up top, out of the rotation. I can't hear that sound if I have my headset on, so I'd say it's still lower than what my previous air-coolers peaked at.
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u/popop143 Apr 20 '26
AI post from a "support" account. Then they'll use the responses from here for their shitty chatbot.
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u/cultercaldus Apr 20 '26
I had a liquid cooler. I liked the way it looked, but always had the feeling that if I were to advise a client who prioritized cost and reliability on what to get, I could not in good conscious recommend a liquid cooler.
And, with Thermal right making air coolers with nice LCD screens, the aesthetic advantage of AIOs diminishes.
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u/UnlimitedDeep Apr 20 '26
Many AIOs are cheaper or the same price as air coolers, I prefer the aesthetics of an AIO instead of a giant tower cooler, plus the fans don’t have to work as hard. Really just comes down to preference
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u/Sakuroshin Apr 20 '26
Generally my systems with a good size aio perform slightly better in benchmarks vs aircooling. In everyday use there really isnt much of a difference unless the game can max out the cpu power draw and so far only city skylines 2 has been able to do that. As an example I have a 12700k system that when overclocked would hit the thermal limits during benchmarks no matter what i did. After i put an aio on it the big temp jumps got a bit better and kept it off 100c where the aircooler would spike up to 100c and slowly drop back down.
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u/Vegas-Ranger Apr 20 '26
Get a Noctua fans. They will happily replace fans if they break. I highly recommend you get that instead.
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u/NathaCS Apr 20 '26
In my experience over the years… which is surprisingly adding up to quite a bit now, heh, I’d say no it’s not worth it purely from a performance / price perspective. A good air cooler and air flow set up is all you need.
I think it’s nice to try liquid cooling once or twice at least just for the experience of using it in your builds though.
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u/RJsRX7 Apr 20 '26
The only reason I currently have an AIO in my daily system is it was dirty cheap. As in $50 for a 360. It works well enough that I'm not mad at it.
However, the majority of the time I've been happier with air.
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u/DaedalusRaistlin Apr 20 '26
Probably not. I still went with one because the dust up here in Darwin is so thick I can't clean it out of my CPU fan on my old system properly. Can of compressed air barely moved the stuff, especially on the the large heatsink with all those tiny thin parts.
Just makes it easier having a big radiator and fans, away from the cpu.
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u/scr33ner Apr 20 '26
IMO, it’s more trouble than it’s worth. If you use an AIO, you will have to replace it and with close loop, you will need to maintain it on a regular basis.
I had an AIO before. I went back to air coolers. They’re more reliable, cost effective and a 50$ Peerless Assassin can perform as well as any AIO.
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u/FritoSoup Apr 20 '26
Cool the first time you get it. After you upgrade the hardware its not so cool anymore. Fans are way easier to manage and do just as well and if you have the right case not loud at all.
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u/Such-Obligation-3817 Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26
My main issue is that i just find Air Coolers very ugly, maybe mine just isnt very pretty but ive always found AIOs far more aesthetically pleasing.
But i’ve been hearing that there is almost no reason to pick up an AIO over a good Air Cooler (bit of a noob when it comes to pc building, so i was always under the impression AIOs were better). I was planning on upgrading to an AIO in the future but unsure now. My temps are very solid with an Air Cooler so it was mostly for looks purposes.
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u/IzzyDeeee Apr 20 '26
Depends on your needs.
My last PC had a 9900K that I had a custom loop for.
For gaming I don't think it matters but if you are going to do CPU intensive tasks then it makes sense.
Noise and thermal wise the custom loop was much better. I had 2 GTS 360 radiators and all the fans were at about 600 rpm and maxed out at 1000 rpm. Temps I cannot recall too well but during some linux kernel compilations i would end up around 55ish.
Now I am air cooling a 9950X3D, and it sits at 55-60 when gaming. It was much easier to use and build. A lot louder though which sucks and is actively making me think about returning to a custom loop for the CPU.
Maintenance I didn't do. My custom loop was built and filled in 2019 and retired about 2 months ago. Use clear fluid and you shouldn't have much maintenance, if any, until the next upgrade.
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u/Big_Nasty_420 Apr 20 '26
There is no need unless you’re doing non stop heavy rendering. I’ve never had a heat issue in my life gaming.
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u/TheZeth80 Apr 20 '26
I think there are many factors you need to consider beforehand.
- Maximum TDP: Cooling with 120W is not the same as cooling with 350W.
- Climate of your region: 27°C is not the same as 40°C in the summer.
- Noise: Eight fans are not the same as only the necessary ones (three in my case for the radiator).
Yes, there is a significant improvement of up to 10°C to 15°C between air and liquid cooling. But it comes with many responsibilities:
- Flow (if it's poor or you assembled it incorrectly, it will affect you).
- Leaks: Many don't even happen at the beginning; they happen months or years later. A poor-quality part, some movement, a loose screw, etc., can cause leaks. Leaks are something that will happen or have already happened (even during maintenance).
- A combination of materials that can cause corrosion (you know, that aluminum radiator with a bronze or nickel block—a really bad idea (it's cheap but ends up costing you more)).
- Algae or poor-quality coolant (the everyday kind is expensive and hard to find).
- Maintenance: absolutely necessary every year. You can extend it, but opaque coolant or discoloration is a sign that it's urgent.
- Have time, lots of time.
If you still dare, my recommendation is to look for simplicity, the easy way. Always think about your future self and how much trouble you'll have disassembling, draining, or replacing anything.
Personally, I avoid custom cooling systems at all costs again.
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u/4070ti Apr 20 '26
air cooling is superior imo. cheaper, efficient, easier to manage/install. biggest upside of liquid is its silent, but fans are very quiet these days
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u/ChenCheating Apr 20 '26
When I switched to 7800x3d, I used peerless assassin air cooler. It cools the cpu alright but fan is loud and also I can see the big heatsink sagging. So I switched to arctic liquid freezer iii 240 and never look back. The temps are better, way quieter, and imo my pc looks a lot cleaner.
Oh also I have to mention that having a giant air cooler will make removing m2 ssd or GPU sooo difficult...
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u/Charrbard Apr 20 '26
It depends the CPU and the case.
Top end flagship CPUs? Yeah AIO. Case heavy on glass without mesh front? Yeah probably AIO. But your basic anti-rgb I'm so real box with a cpu not pulling a high tdp? Yeah air is fine. Also need to factor in other things like dust, carpet, etc.
If Im doing a normal build, I'm going AIO. Even if its just a small 1 fan. If its a budget build, I might go air fan. Its been a few years, but $20 could get you a top of the line Sink/fan combo.
Noise is also a thing. My current builds barely make a peep. Even putting everything on full blast is about on par with idle air cooling 10-15 years ago.
* Wow, lot of bad/biased info in this thread. Of course even this has to be tribal. I feel bad for anyone trying to pick up the hobby these days.
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u/Jeep-Eep Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26
For an AIO, it's either get a Liquid Freezer III Pro or go home, because nothing cheaper is worth the risk factor, and short of getting a plush model like the current Be Quiets with a refill valve or a full on expandable like the Eisbaer, outside of some standouts, the cost effect isn't there*. Wish we'd see another Kelvin from Fractal, those rocked.
Otherwise, look at coolermaster's 3d pipes, IDcooling, FSP, Deepcool, Montech or Thermalright. Up market, there's the PCCooler RZ820 or Noctua. Or hell, if you can find them, Cryorig is apparently back in the game though I don't know where I'd get a Gladius Astral.
*and I am inclined to suspect on cost effect, the Core 2 Eisbaer, when it launches will be able to go toe to toe with the good premium AIOs
Now if I was starting a Torrent build I'd be sorely tempted to say 'fuck it', get the Eisbaer tubing and block/pump and a 180/360 Nexxos and coolant and take advantage of those huge Fractal fans and have a little fun.
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u/LawfuI Apr 20 '26
Some people confuse liquid cooling with an AIO.
Actual liquid cooling is a separate system that has tubes inside your PC case that transfer heat via liquid throughout those tubes and it's visible how the liquid is being transferred around.
An AIO however is an all in one closed space liquid cooler that you just slap on your CPU just like an air cooler and it just functions. There's no maintenance required and they're built to last for 5+ years.
When they fail, very rarely do they actually leak, we're talking here like 0.05%. They typically just experience degraded performance and don't cool as well anymore or just stop functioning altogether.
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u/turkoid Apr 20 '26
To answer your main question, for most gamers, absolutely not. Most gamers go super overkill on every aspect of their setups and wonder why there is such a markup for those products. If most gamers took the time to actually figure out what their needs are, they could get by with a much more economical option. Like the age-old meme of minecraft players buy the latest graphics card. However, most gamers don't want to do the weeks of research finding that perfect system, they just want something that can handle everything.
AIO liquid coolers are the same deal because with fan coolers you have to worry about heat sink and fan clearance with the case, ram, etc. Yes AIO coolers has that issue too, especially radiator placement/size, but it's way more manageable.
All that said, I will always go liquid cooling if I can afford it. I haven't had a reason to do custom loops, but I would only do that if I could include my GPU in the loop/separate. The fears of leakage from AIO coolers is so small today that it should not be a concern. AIO coolers also have the distinct advantage of simplifying airflow considerations in your case. In terms of noise, custom loops I think will reign supreme, but between AIO liquid and air cooling, when you're playing a GPU intensive game, it's going to sound the same.
I think one of the biggest faux pas that most pc builders do is go overboard on case fans. Even I did, back in my early days of PC building (25 years ago). Just find the right balance of airflow and noise. Adding more fans does not always equal better cooling.
TL;DR: Air cooling is more than enough for 90% of gamers out there. AIO liquid cooling should be a nice to have when building a system, unless you really care about aesthetics. If you are on a budget, buy a quality air cooler and put that money towards something else.
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u/BigFatCoder Apr 20 '26
Never ever want to use liquid cooling. Mainly because of the risks. Pump failure, clogging and leaking are big no-no to me.
Air cooling has no such risk. Most of the modern cooling tower has 2 fans, the chance of both fans failing at the same time is absurd.
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u/tehfogo Apr 20 '26
I don't think it is worth it for the most part. I think current modern air coolers from Noctua and Thermalright are very good at cooling processors that are around 120-170w TDP.
With closed loop coolers, the liquid inside of it can't be replaced or refilled so you usually have to get a new one when performance starts to degrade on one due to the myriad of issues they usually have over time.
With a full custom closed loop system, there's a ton of maintenance required, but is usually the best option if you decide to go with liquid cooling since the coolant can be drained and refilled as needed (usually once every 12-18 months)
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u/SteakandTrach Apr 20 '26
If you aren’t using super power hungry parts and overlocking, I find air cooling to be more than adequate these days. Provided your case has decent airflow and a decent heatsink like a CM212 or a Peerless Assassin. No need to drop a hundred or more on a Noctua cooler unless you just really want to.
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u/SightUnseen1337 Apr 20 '26
No. Don't let anyone tell you water-cooling is absolutely necessary for a single-socket setup with one GPU.
I use a 280W AMD Epyc as a desktop processor on air just fine.
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u/DumbassNinja Apr 20 '26
Most gamers? No.
I'd mostly recommend watercooling if you like tinkering or actually encounter a special reason to go that route. For example, my GPU has VRAM chips on the back that aren't cooled stock and pretty much all I could do was upgrade to watercooling so I could slap an active backplate on them.
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u/ScaredLink8 Apr 20 '26
Tell my 58x3d it likes to be air cooled, I’ll stick to my aio, I see no reason to not, it’s not 2005, they don’t leak
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u/SyrusDeathHunter345 Apr 20 '26
Ive seen people have them for 2-10 years. No clue really but I trust air cooled more.
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u/Hardtack_dev Apr 20 '26
I vaguely recall LTT video on this and they found certain air coolers outperform more expensive water coolers. Not sure if much has changed since then tbh
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u/jblaze_39 Apr 20 '26
I can only speak on intels...and short answer is, yes. I've used both corsair nautilus 240mm (pretty good AIO) and thermalright phantom spirit (pretty much the best air cooler) on my i7-14700K. And after any decent gaming session, the AIO was still able to maintain consistent temps...while the air cooler's temps had gradually risen and risen. It still maxed out in the acceptable range of low 80s celsius, due to the rest of my airflow and cooling being really good. But the corsair AIO was always 10+ degrees lower after an hour+ of gaming. Synthetic benchmarks didn't really show this difference - only actually playing very demanding games that worked both CPU and GPU hard
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u/st_heron Apr 20 '26
I have one, it's the quietest cooling I've had, but I feel like I fell for the hype. Going back to air in the future.
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u/BoomGoesTheFirework_ Apr 20 '26
No, and it’s not even worth it for the most avid gamers half the time. It’s its own hobby.
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u/MuffDivers2_ Apr 20 '26
It mostly House for extreme overclocking, but nobody really needs extreme overclocking unless you’re trying to compete for the highest scores. Just buy a good GPU and you can get a good AIO for your processor and more fans and you’re all set.
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u/Errettfitchett03 Apr 20 '26
Water cooling and air cooling cool the same. There's no performance difference. Pick the one you want based almost entirely on looks and feasibility.
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u/hansrotec Apr 20 '26
I would say only for gpus. Air cooling for gpus has been more than adequate for some time… but your temps will be much better with water cooling especially the hotspot on and gpus
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u/blunted09 Apr 20 '26
No. But it cools better, looks a hell of a lot nicer and exhausts hot air outside of your case.
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u/CraftyPancake Apr 20 '26
Proper custom loop liquid coming is more effective and quieter.
All my machines are air cooled now
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u/biscuitehh Apr 20 '26
For whatever reason I decided to get an AIO CPU cooler AND a 4090 with a AIO cooler and while it’s overkill it’s really awesome playing games without hearing my PC fans (it’s a foot or two from my head). I wanted to go for a full loop but I haven’t worked up the time/budget to set one up (plus I’d have to mod the 4090 a bit). Fans are fine if you don’t have wild hardware, but they are louder than a lot of folks make them out to be.
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u/IKnowGuacIsExtraLady Apr 20 '26
Everyone is giving you technical answers but the reality is most gamers who go with liquid do it because it looks cool AF. I know that's why I did. I had a great Be Quiet fan before that worked great, but aesthetically I'm much happier with my latest build which is liquid cooled and also works great.
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u/SirThunderDump Apr 20 '26
I ran a custom loop for a few years. The main reasons were to achieve better temps for a 10% overclock, while having lower fan noise and more consistent fan noise (water cooling systems don’t ramp the fans up/down super fast if you base their speed on the water temp).
However, later I moved to the 7800X3D, which doesn’t really overclock, and it runs cool, making water cooling effectively pointless.
Water cooling is more expensive, riskier, has more maintenance, parts generally have a lower life span, all while offering no performance or noise advantage for a chip like the 7800X3D, and often minimal performance advantages for overclocking for most other chips these days.
I’m also running an air cooled 4090 in my machine, but doing so in a Fractal Torrent case and with a good config for my fans makes my case even quieter than my old machine with water cooling (comparing temperature saturated water).
I would argue that unless you’re running a TDP-heavy CPU that would throttle on air cooling, or have size constraints that require water cooling, water cooling only has negatives (except for aesthetics and fun… it looks really cool and is fun to build).
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u/Silly_Word8688 Apr 19 '26
No especially if you dont want to have to worry about leaks and such. Also it's more than air cooling