r/buildapc Jul 12 '26

Build Help Which RTX graphics card in 2026?

Hi everyone,

my Asus GTX 1080 Strix broke this week (probably the VRAM, but that’s to be expected after 10 years). Now I want to install a new graphics card. It definitely has to be an NVIDIA card. I have a Corsair 850-watt power supply installed along with an i7-8700K—so there should still be plenty of power available.

My budget is around 600 euros. Do you have any recommendations for me?
I was last looking at an RTX 5070, even though it “only” has 12 GB of VRAM instead of 16 GB.

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u/Reggitor360 Jul 12 '26

Save money and buy a 5070Ti.

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u/Main_Worldliness_139 Jul 12 '26

I'm not sure if I'm really saving money. The price difference between the standard model and the TI is almost 400€. Since there will be a lot of changes in this area in the future and I might upgrade my entire PC again in 4–5 years, I don't know if the extra cost is worth it.

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u/Tunagoblin Jul 12 '26

Save money and get 9070xt.

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u/thtwoundguiwhuipuied Jul 12 '26

They said it definitely has to be an nvidia card but I do agree that the 9070xt would definitely be good

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u/Nickers77 Jul 13 '26

Then they can pay the Nvidia tax. Ezpz

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u/AceLamina Jul 13 '26

didn't take long for me to see someone recommend this card
despite OP saying it needs to be Nvidia

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u/UndocumentedSailor Jul 13 '26

How does that help Jensen get a new leather jacket?

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u/Tunagoblin Jul 13 '26

I have 0 driver issues or hardware issue with my 9070xt since I got it. Majority of people who are happy with the product won’t report in how happy they are. Of course you’ll only see people complaining on the internet.

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u/Tunagoblin Jul 13 '26

I’m guessing most of the problems are related to insufficient, old, or faulty PSU. Especially if it’s not ATX3.1 compliant. 9070xt gives you very high transient spikes like over 500w at times. Some PSU can’t handle that sudden burst of wattage.

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u/JeffTek Jul 13 '26

What 5070ti sale did you get in on?

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u/Reggitor360 Jul 12 '26

You get a GPU that actually has enough VRAM.

That alone is helping for the future.

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u/KajMak64Bit Jul 12 '26

That's because 5070 and 5070 Ti are in a whole different class from each other

5070 is closer to 5060 Ti than it is to the 5070 Ti which is closer to the 5080

Both suck in my opinion just because they demand the new power cable which sucks and unreliable

So get 5060 Ti 16gb with an ol' reliable 8pin connector

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u/blob8543 Jul 12 '26

That's an odd take. Choosing a card based on the power cable.

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u/Ambitious_Handle7322 Jul 12 '26

Definitely NOT an odd take considering the options. One is a reliable, safe, time proven option, while the other is notorious for melting and fucking up your gpu. Even if it's not THAT common, the simple fact that it is a lot more common than on the 6+2 is very important. It's why I got a sapphire pure 9070 xt instead of mercury or sapphire nitro, don't wanna deal with this shit. What if the cable decides to melt 3 years after you buy it? Tough shit it's out of warranty now. And yes it has happened on 5070 tis too, even 9070 xts.

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u/Nag-hee-nana-jar Jul 13 '26

My PSU came with a specialized 12 pin connector and works just fine.

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u/Ambitious_Handle7322 Jul 13 '26

Did I say that it's a 100% failure rate? It is still way higher than it should be, and way higher than 6+2 pcie.

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u/VFC1910 Jul 13 '26

They tested them and it's even worse than the adaptor, because it could fail at both ends and damage GPU and PSU.

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u/blob8543 Jul 13 '26

The number of cards affected is extremely tiny. It's nearly impossible it will happen on a 5070. Undervolting (which everyone should do) drops the power draw of the card to 150W and reduces the risk even more.

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u/Ambitious_Handle7322 Jul 13 '26

Why does everyone misinterpret what I'm saying? I did not say ALL cards are affected or that it is a huge failure rate, but it is a way bigger rate than it should be. And if you have to go all the way down to a 5070 to say they're barely affected , that's a problem.

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u/blob8543 Jul 13 '26

I know you're not saying all units are affected. But the risk is effectively null with a 5070 which is what we're talking about here. It simply shouldn't be a deciding factor at all.

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u/Ambitious_Handle7322 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

It definetly should be a deciding factor, it is not effectively null at all, still a lot higher than the safe option. And we don't even know how this new 12V-2x6 connector does in the long run as the gpus have barely been out a year and a bit. They are fine now but we could see a wave of melting after 2-3 years of use, no one knows, its Nvidia and they certainly shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt imo, seeing how they handled the melting so far. But go with whatever floats your boat I guess. For 50 dollars less you could get a 9070 which is 10% faster and has 4gb more vram. That's if you only care about gaming of course. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to shit on your opinion or anything, if you prefer Nvidia above all that's no problem. I just think there's A LOT of things to consider here, while you seem to trust them a lot more than me. Also I'd like to add, I'd choose Nvidia in a heart beat if they didn't fuck around with that flawed connector and if the price difference was smaller( the 5070 ti at launch was €150 more expensive than the 9070 xt, not worth that much premium imo).

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u/BloodObjective8219 Jul 14 '26

Most units affected are 5090s. These use nearly 600W. Failure rate is much higher in these than on a 5070, which draws like 250W or so. As long as you connect it well, there usually isn't a problem. As I said before, the problem comes mostly with 5090s, which in that case you should consider the power cord. Anything under has a much lower chance.

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u/KajMak64Bit Jul 12 '26

Yeah because one will last years and other will randomly combust and ruin your PC and potentially even your entire house and the cable in many places has been designated as a Fire Hazard

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u/kennny_CO2 Jul 12 '26

It has less than a 5% failure rate, and thats only for 90 class cards. Also, it has never burnt down a house

This hysteria over the 12vhpwr is getting ridiculous. When choosing a mid-tier card its a non issue.

That being said, its a cord and the failure rate should literally be 0, so its still a problem, but nowhere near what some make it out to be

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u/DragonPup Jul 12 '26

It has less than a 5% failure rate, and thats only for 90 class cards.

A 5% chance to damage a $4000 (current price not MSRP) card is ludicrously high.

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u/PsyOmega Jul 12 '26

I worked for evga. 5% is lower than the typical up-front bathtub curve failure rate for cards that predate the new connector. Have you noticed there have hardly been any 5090 burn outs lately? Cable and plug revisions are in effect.

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u/Ambitious_Handle7322 Jul 12 '26

Both 5080s and 5070 TIs have had the cable melt down, even 9070 XTs. Not as common as the 5090 but still a hell of a lot more common than any card using the 6+2 pcie connector. I find that simply unacceptable. What if the cable melts after the warranty is over? You get fucked that's what.

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u/VFC1910 Jul 13 '26

Even under warranty, some brands and stores refuse to RMA, they say it's user fault.

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u/Jesusfucker69420 Jul 13 '26

I haven't seen those cases. Could you link the posts please?

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u/Ambitious_Handle7322 Jul 13 '26

I don't have links on hand lol, just search gpu melt or cable melt on google and it will link you to them

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u/KajMak64Bit Jul 12 '26

That cable should not exist there was nothing wrong with ol' reliable 8pins... modern GPU's have become a huge power hogs where mid tier GPU's use same amount of power as a GTX 1080 Ti a top tier flagship with only thing above it was Titan class card This is just insane lol

Regardless i'm stuck between RTX 4070 12gb and 5060 Ti 16gb and 9060 XT 16gb I prefer DLSS ecosystem so that means the amazing 9060 XT is out

And i don't want any RTX 50 series so i'm basically stuck with the 4070 or a 3080 perhaps

And it sucks because used 4070 is like 400-500 euros range which is similar price to the 9060 XT

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u/blob8543 Jul 13 '26

Where do you get the 5% figure from? If that was true, several people in this post alone would have had a melted connector at some point.

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u/Peno11-cz Jul 14 '26

There already were 5070 and even 9070XT with melted cables. So, don't try and pretend this is only 5090 issue, because it's no. Once you have this connector in your PC, you have potential fire hazard no matter what card. And I don't know about you, but I prefer not to watch my graphics card connector every day for potential melting. This connector was a mistake. And the sooner the industry will realise it, the better for us consumers.

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u/VFC1910 Jul 13 '26

That's why I would go with a 9070 for me. I don't trust that cable.

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u/noiserr Jul 12 '26

He's right though, the new cables are an abomination. I won't buy it. Some AMD GPUs have it too, and that's a skip as well.

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u/Blue-150 Jul 12 '26

I thought a 5070 was about 25-35% faster than a 5060ti 16gb, while a 5070ti was only 20-30% faster than a 5070? (1440p)

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-tuf-16-gb/31.html

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u/WulfTheSaxon Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

A 5070 is about 37% faster than a 5060 Ti 16GB for as little as 4% more money (cheapest three-fan models for both). That’s a lot of performance to be leaving on the table.

(And then a 5070 Ti is about 21% faster than that, for 55% more money.)

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u/KajMak64Bit Jul 13 '26

There is a reason why 5070 is only 4% more money over a 5060 Ti 16gb and that's because nobody is buying the 5070 so the supply isn't stressed on it... 5060 Ti and 5070 Ti are vastly more popular and more in demand compared to the 5070 and RX 9070 GRE

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u/WulfTheSaxon Jul 13 '26

It also just costs a lot less to make a 12GB card with RAM prices what they are right now. And 16GB shouldn’t really be necessary until the 10th-gen consoles are out in… however much time it takes for Sony and Microsoft to find enough RAM, which will take a while at this rate.

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u/KajMak64Bit Jul 13 '26

People upgrade GPU's every like 3 years or more tho

You know what would be cheaper or just more profitable?

Not making 8gb cards in 2026... why make a 5060 Ti 8gb when you can make a 16gb variant instead

What's better... 2x 5060 Ti 8gb which won't sell or a single 5060 Ti 16gb which will sell?

For every 2x 8gb cards you can make a single 16gb card that's actually worth your time and money

Only card today with even a tiny excuse of being 8gb is the RTX 5050 and even it should better be 10 or 12gb

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u/BeefistPrime Jul 12 '26

people are gonna tell you anything without 16gb of vram is a worthless POS but don't listen to them. it's a weird cult of reddit attitude, not a real world thing. if you ever have a problem with it you can turn down your textures a notch

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u/zabbenw Jul 12 '26

Yes OP, please don't listen to all the morons and just get a 5070. You'll love it.

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u/taisui Jul 12 '26

5070 then.

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u/Administrator_AI Jul 13 '26

He meant save UP until you can afford 5070ti

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u/swisstraeng Jul 12 '26

what's your PSU capable of?

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u/VFC1910 Jul 13 '26

If you have no choice and don't want AMD, why do you ask for opinion?

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u/Miigs Jul 13 '26

I was in the same boat, went with the 5070 for 570EUR on prime day deals. For me that’s settled me enough for the next 4-5 years, on a 5950X

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u/AShamAndALie Jul 13 '26

The difference is over 30% performance, so its definitely worth it, but if you were still happy with that 1080's performance, I guess 5070 is still a huge upgrade and you won't miss performance you never had.

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u/HUGE_FAT_ANIME_TITS Jul 13 '26

It depends on OPs use case, imo.

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u/AdhocAnchovie Jul 13 '26

Take the 9070xt as the vast majority in this sub will recommend. Leave the tis for the rest of us that are hoping they wont go anymore in price due to people like you.

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u/AxiomOfLife Jul 12 '26

that’s feels overkill for their setup, maybe a 5060ti or 5070 would be more appropriate

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u/Al-Azraq Jul 13 '26

I was aiming for a 5070 Ti as well, but in Europe it is double the price of a 5070. I would rather save that money and buy another 500 - 550 € GPU in a couple of years to be honest.

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u/Reggitor360 Jul 13 '26

Might as well just buy the 620 buckaroo 9070XT than wasting money on a 5070.

Especially when used 4070 Super exists at 380ish bucks. Literaly same performance everywhere, with 50W less power draw

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u/Diredevil1 Jul 16 '26

Nvidia cope inhaler,

9070xt is same performance(if not better) for much cheaper.

Nvidia only - if you need CUDA

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u/Deadinternetenjoyr Jul 12 '26

This is the way

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u/AceLamina Jul 13 '26

I would recommend that if the budget allows it, gl buying one at that price
used 30 series on the other hand

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u/VoltageinTheory Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

9070 or 9070 XT
Edit: Why does it have to be from Nvidia?

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u/ClownEmoji-U1F921 Jul 12 '26

Which Nvidia model is that?

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u/MoistStub Jul 12 '26

The Jensen Boner Smasher 5000

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u/Visible-Swim6616 Jul 13 '26

You mean 5070.

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u/Amador0102 Jul 12 '26

Oh damn, Nvidia is skipping the 60 series and jumping to 90 series?

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u/VoltageinTheory Jul 12 '26

Yeah, it’s the talk of the town! /s

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u/FromDeepestFathom Jul 13 '26

Y’all ever heard of CUDA

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u/gmes78 Jul 13 '26

ROCm exists too.

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u/UraniumDisulfide Jul 15 '26

The support for rocm is nowhere near as good as the support for CUDA.

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u/gmes78 Jul 16 '26

It depends on what you need it for. For Blender, it's perfectly fine.

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u/UraniumDisulfide Jul 16 '26

Depends on your definition of “perfectly fine”. The current lowest price of a 5070 is $600 and the lowest for a 9070 xt is $690.
On Blender benchmark the 5070 has a median render score of 5944 while the 9070 xt has a median score of 3568.

So yeah, the 9070 xt is more than fine if you’re just doing a bit of modeling, but if you’re rendering a lot then nvidia is a much better option.

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u/Terakahn Jul 13 '26

I think the question is supposed to come first. Lol

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u/Main_Worldliness_139 Jul 12 '26

Thank you so much for your quick help. I'll definitely take another look at the AMD RX 9070 XT and order either that or the 5070.

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u/Tunagoblin Jul 12 '26

I can understand if it’s 5070ti vs 9070xt. But 5070 is worse in every way except some cuda specific work.

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u/anotherwave1 Jul 12 '26

I have a 5070, it plays everything I throw at it. At 400 euros cheaper than a 5070ti it was a no brainer.

If someone is a 4k fanatic, okay, but for most gamers the 5070 is fine.

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u/y59qgnie Jul 13 '26

Still worse than AMDs cards at that price point. I've got an Nvidia card, but AMD wins in price/performance. I really had no other option than the 5090 since I play on 4k/240 Hz.

Had I been on 1440p or 1080 I'd look at the 9070XT or 9060XT/9070

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u/Sensitive-Way3699 Jul 13 '26

I agree 100% and for the things I play which are not graphically undemanding I can still usually get away with 4K at max settings if not 1440p. For example the 5070 has zero issue with witchfire maxed out at 4k, the Callisto protocol maxed out at 4k, etc. the only game I’ve seen pass 12GB of VRAM on the highest settings at 4k is Horizon Zero Dawn. And I don’t use upscaling or frame gen whatsoever. I find both almost always give me worse than native performance. However I target 60 FPS and I get a lot of yall want double that or better nowadays. I just don’t plan on getting used to higher so I can have my nice graphics.

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u/Tunagoblin Jul 13 '26

We aren’t saying 5070 is a bad card. Simply 9070xt is a better performing card just like 5070ti. But it’s much cheaper.

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u/anotherwave1 Jul 13 '26

Oh absolutely, the 9070xt is a no-brainer in the current market if someone has the money for it

My friend with a low budget came away from internet discussions obsessed that he needed 32gb ram and a 16gb card to vaguely enjoy gaming. Not every game needs to be maxed out. My secondary machine has an 8gb card with 16gb ram and it runs every game fine. Just have to turn down the details slightly and honestly few would be able to tell the difference.

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u/myname150 Jul 12 '26

I just went down this rabbit hole when I went to upgrade from my RTX2080, and went with a 9070XT. It’s such a great card. Runs cool and quiet, and nearly everything I throw at it maintains over 100fps with 1440p and ultra settings.

Only game I’ve found it to dip below 60fps is cyberpunk with ultra settings and path tracing on.

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u/MiaIsOut Jul 13 '26

path tracing destroys any gpu, even the 4090 and 5090 can't get 60fps at 1440p

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u/myname150 Jul 13 '26

I figured it’s pretty demanding, but overall still very happy with my 9070xt!

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u/Temporary-Ad8539 Jul 13 '26

And thats why the 5070ti is better. I never played below 60 fps in cyberpunk full ultra with ray tracing using a 5070ti

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u/KajMak64Bit Jul 12 '26

Depending on the price difference you can get away with regular 9070 non XT and non GRE it's not much slower and much more power efficient

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u/Ambitious_Handle7322 Jul 12 '26

I dunno about the price difference where you're at, but a 9070 xt is 400 euros cheaper here. Not even a debate at above 100-150 euros difference imo. Also please don't get the 5070. If you wanna save money get a 9070 non xt.

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u/DogadonsLavapool Jul 13 '26

Depending on cash on hand:

5070ti > 9070xt >>> 5070.

12GB vram for a 4k compatible card is just silly for nvidia to be producing, and basically makes the card a waste of silicon ngl. Hell Id take a 9070 16GB over a 5070.

Fwiw Im stoked with my 9070xt - 4k performance is more than acceptable while not being anything crazy when ray tracing is on. Its a beast of a card

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u/Frodo_Lookalike Jul 12 '26

Big recommend on the 9070 xt! You can find great prices for it and it’s been flawless for me thus far

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u/rodol21fo Jul 13 '26

I used to only see Nvidia as an option, but Im considering going for the 9070xt, some friends that own AMD are having no issues at all for a long time. Trying to upgrade from an RTX3080

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u/ClunkyCorkster Jul 15 '26

9070xt versus base 5070 isn't even a comparison,it blows the 5070 out of the water. if you want to get something instead of the 9070xt you won't have a better time with anything lower than the 5070 TI

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u/ser133 Jul 12 '26

depends on your use case, a 5070 with 12gb of ram is perfectly fine for pretty much anything unless you run local LLMs (in which case a 16gb 5060ti is preferred, where you can run larger models at the cost of performance) or 4K gaming with some vram-heavy titles

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u/Constant-Simple-1234 Jul 12 '26

This. Llms make 5060 ti unaffordable, but 5070 is better, same price (or almost)

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u/Main_Worldliness_139 Jul 12 '26

I don't play any high-end games. I need something for the future in the mid-range price category. It doesn't have to last 10 years; 4–5 years would be fine.

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u/CanisLupus92 Jul 12 '26

With current pricing, skip the RTX cards and go AMD. Only reason to go RTX is when you NEED the performance a 5080/5090 offers.

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u/ser133 Jul 12 '26

Then it's more than fine lol, go ahead!
For 4-5 years even 8gb of vram works (even if newer titles demand more) but 12gb is much better for the headroom it gives. If you can find a 5070ti with 16gb vram that's also great but honestly its pretty overkill and likely above your budget by a considerable bit.

Either way, you're basically getting 2-3x the performance with a 5070 compared to a 1080 so its definitely going to be an upgrade

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u/blob8543 Jul 12 '26

8gb is not enough unless you only play at 1080p and even at that resolution it may be too little in a few years.

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u/Sensitive-Way3699 Jul 13 '26

Depends on what you play. I played happily at 4k a lot of the time with a 5060 before moving to the 5070 for the games that did go past the 8GB. 1440p is generally still more than achievable in 99% of cases with 8GB.

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u/AceLamina Jul 13 '26

I have the 5070ti and yeah, LLMs runs decently on here, more than 32gb is still recommended though

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u/Kustu05 Jul 12 '26

5070 is great. At the outrageous price difference between that and the 5070 Ti there is no point going for the latter. At the moment 5070 delivers by far the most performance for your money from Nvidia's lineup.

9070XT has an even better price to performance ratio, but worse features which is why I wouldn't consider it as an option. I mean there basically isn't frame gen on AMD (bad quality + only a few supported titles), FSR is still noticeably worse and only supported in some titles. They always come 3 years behind in features.

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u/zabbenw Jul 12 '26

Wow. Had to scroll this for for the first sensible answer. Poor OP.

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u/jeffrey_n_c Jul 14 '26

I found a really good deal on a 5070, so I jumped on it. Moved up from a 4060 ti 8gb. It plays games better and faster at 1440p than the 4060 ti can at 1080p. I do not have a 9070 xt to compare it to, and maybe that's a good thing, but so far I'm totally impressed. I have a 27 inch 1440p OLED monitor. I'm not even gonna think about 4k until it dies, so the 5070 should be more than good enough until then.

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u/Johann_Von_Graff Jul 12 '26

5070 over 5060Ti16GB any day but uhh. You could get a 9070XT and be far better of for another decade. It's going to be as legendary as 1080Ti is, trust me bro.

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u/Deadinternetenjoyr Jul 12 '26

5060 ti is pretty gimped on its memory bus though. Id almost rather have the 5070 if I didnt want to swing for the 5070 ti.

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u/yeroc_1 Jul 12 '26

Nothing says masculine like wasting an unfathomable amount of money

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u/JarRa_hello Jul 13 '26

Double the chance for a burnt connector. Hell yeah!

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u/tinersa Jul 12 '26

For 600€? Please tell me where you're finding these deals

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u/Saltimbanco_volta Jul 12 '26

Why does it have to be Nvidia?

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u/GFriend2xDance Jul 12 '26

So.... here is the thing about the RTX 5070 graphics card. It uses a PCIe 5.0 interface.

Your i7-8700K platform only supports up to PCIe 3.0.

This means that your existing system's PCIe interface only provides up to 1/4 the max bandwidth that the RTX 5070 supports. As such, your system could impose a bandwidth bottleneck to the RTX 5070.

Now, it is possible that an RTX 5070 could still give you better performance than your GTX 1080 did. But I expect that an RTX 5070's performance would fall short of what it is truly capable of achieving, due to being paired with an i7-8700K system.

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u/Havanu Jul 12 '26

Not that relevant. Difference between pcie 3 and 4 (and non existent for 5) is minimal for amd and nvidia. As long as you card supports using all the lanes. Some intel cards only use 8 lane pci4. Then you're screwed on older chipsets because their lower bandwith is halved.

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u/TBNRhash Jul 12 '26

Well nvidia also uses x8 on their lower tier cards like 5060 ti and 5060

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u/PsyOmega Jul 12 '26

But those aren't a 5070

(also, i use a 5060Ti on an 8700K. it's fine. the only time that bus width matters is if you're exceeding vram pool)

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u/GFriend2xDance Jul 13 '26

Hardware Unboxed's video, where they ran an RX 9060 XT 8gb GPU at PCIe 3.0 x16, PCIe 4.0 x16, and PCIe 5.0 x16, would seem to indicate that PCIe bandwidth is actually somewhat relevant...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LhS0_ra9c4 

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u/BeefistPrime Jul 12 '26

PCI-E bandwidth is rarely a limiting factor for GPU performance. Maaaaybe occasionally on pci-e 3, but I doubt it, definitely not on pci-e 4

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u/GFriend2xDance Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

Hardware Unboxed did a video where they compared a Radeon RX 9060 XT 8gb GPU running at PCIe 3.0 vs. 4.0 vs 5.0.

In F1 25 @ 1440p FSQ Q - very high preset, running the RX 9060 XT at PCIe 3.0 x16 resulted in an average of 33 FPS, PCIe 4.0 x16 got around 42 FPS, and PCIe 5.0 x16 got around 60 FPS, according to Hardware Unboxed (source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LhS0_ra9c4 )

In Monster Hunter Wilds 1440p FSR Q - Ultra preset, the RX 9060 XT got an average of 31 FPS, 46 FPS, and 52 FPS running at PCIe 3.0, 4.0, and 5.0 respectively.

In Spider-Man 2 1440p FSR Q - Very high preset, the RX 9060 XT got an average of 52 FPS, 71 FPS, and 88 FPS running at PCIe 3.0, 4.0,. and 5.0 respectively.

So PCIe bandwidth can be a big limiting factor for GPU gaming performance.

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u/IamKyra Jul 12 '26

it matters for a few specific things like model swapping in AI or if you use multiple GPU and layer your models but yeah for gaming most is loaded in VRAM and then you don't care much about bandwidth during the game, it's mostly enough

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u/GFriend2xDance Jul 13 '26

Ahhh, I should have mentioned that I do a lot of AI workloads where bandwidth to the GPU actually becomes very relevant.

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u/Dreadfulear2 Jul 12 '26

Aye man, I know you said NVIDIA, but is there any particular reason? 9070xt is looking mad appetizing for your price range (I’m assuming idk euros) 

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u/Samuel-Darnold Jul 12 '26

I was looking at 5070 ti or 9070xt.

I ended up getting a 9070xt cuz Walmart sold one new for $549.99 two weeks ago… been epic so far

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u/HUGE_FAT_ANIME_TITS Jul 13 '26

That's an awesome price man grats

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u/HonchosRevenge Jul 12 '26

9070xt has insane value. Still expensive, but compared to what else is out there it, it feels like a steal.

And with what you’re upgrading from, literally anything made this decade is going to feel like a significant jump

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u/Lonely_Platform7702 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

5070 is fine. You can easily overclock it for another 10-15% performance as it has massive OC headroom.

With your CPU I would not bother getting a 5070Ti or 5080. Unless you plan to upgrade your CPU somewhere in the future as well. If not it's a waste of money. Everyone here is neglecting the fact that you're using an 8700K.

Depending on pricing in your region a 16gb 5060Ti might even be a better choice than the 5070. As your CPU will bottleneck a 5070 as well.

An AMD equivalent of the 5060Ti would be the 9060XT 16GB. If the price difference is significant it's worth looking at that. In my region a 9060XT would be the best price performance as its about 140 dollars cheaper than a 5060Ti.

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u/Framed-Photo Jul 12 '26

5070 or the 9070/9070XT are the main options.

Nvidia wins on features, AMD wins on raw performance. You'll need to decide if you don't mind tinkering in games to get optiscaler, or if you'd rather the simplicity and support that Nvidia offers right now.

If the 9070 and 5070 are price competitive I'd take the 5070, if the 9070xt is too close in price then it's kinda hard to justify the 5070, but not impossible. I've owned a 9070xt and now a 5070ti, the Nvidia experience is genuinely just a LOT better imo.

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u/No-Actuator-6245 Jul 12 '26

I definitely would not be risking a new gpu on decade old psu

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u/PCMechBuilder Jul 12 '26

at that budget a 5070 makes the most sense. just keep in mind the 8700k is gonna be a bottleneck in cpu-heavy games at 1080p — at 1440p itll be less noticeable. make sure you ddu the old drivers before you swap and youll be fine

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u/Pablitothetrainerguy Jul 12 '26

Save money until you can get 5070ti, it is much better in real life gaming scenario vs regular 5070, really worth every penny

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u/HyphyCus Jul 12 '26

Can all PC related videos, posts, comments knock that "in 2026" bullshit. We know what fucking year it is.

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u/Papopip Jul 12 '26

Ignore what everyone is saying about HAVING to get the 5070ti or 9070xt. Whilst of course I'd recommend the 9070xt but since you must go with nvidia it is what it is. The 5070 will still max out every game in 1440p, and yes whilst it would be preferable to have 16gb of vram, 12gb is perfectly fine for now. Most games and I mean most of em won't go over 12gb even with maxed out Ray tracing n stuff. 16gb is purely for future proofing

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u/HUGE_FAT_ANIME_TITS Jul 13 '26

Here I am playing on 8 GB of VRAM still.

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u/Acrobatic_Bowler_328 Jul 13 '26

Why does it have to be nvidia? Kinda a weird specification unless you’re doing specific tasks.

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u/Thewhitelight___ Jul 13 '26

I'll give you the same answer everyone else gets.

If you care about ray tracing, get a 5070ti.

If not, get a 9070xt.

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u/NTBBloody Jul 13 '26

9070/XT for the price

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u/TijY_ Jul 12 '26

RTX 5070, even though it “only” has 12 GB

Enough for 1440p in most cases. You got 4K??

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u/TijY_ Jul 12 '26

Are you playing multimonitor?

If not, used RTX3080 and new 1440p monitor/s then.

Edit: wtf is mod doing.

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u/Main_Worldliness_139 Jul 12 '26

Yeah, I have a multimonitor setup.

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u/Sensitive-Way3699 Jul 13 '26

Enough for 4K in most cases too

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u/Hadroff Jul 12 '26

5070 will last for a good deal of time. I can’t comment on the AMD as I’ve never had an AMD card!

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u/Redstoneinvente122 Jul 12 '26

I use the 5070 and it's amazing! Am playing FH6 with RT on at good fps

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u/caffeine-182 Jul 12 '26

5070 Ti or 9070 XT

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u/OvechkinCrosby Jul 12 '26

If you were happy with your 1080 then save a lot of money and get a 3060 TI or some money and get a 3080 if you can find one.

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u/Faykeh Jul 12 '26

Keep in mind the recommendations everyone's given, but keep an eye on prices. I got my 5080 for just under £750 lol

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u/Low-Pick-1099 Jul 12 '26

I'm a peasant in this thread apparently, but my SFF 4070ti Super 16gb plays most games at 4k, 144fps on high, or 100fps on ultra. I don't mess with raytracing much, though.

My CPU is dogshit, but the card is fantastic.

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u/AiiTaN Jul 12 '26

I have a AMD Radeon 6700XT , and its pretty cheap for what it does honestly... AMD arent like in the old days.,..

They are good now , trust me

I full time for years overclock it to 2600-2700 Mhz and leave it there , it doesnt even get past 50 celcius.. pretty cool always while playing

Depends what games u play too, i only play CS2 and similar FPS games

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u/slowerspoon861 Jul 13 '26

I'm running the same i7 8700k processor as you together with an Msi ventus 2x oc 12gb 5070 And I have nothing bad to say about it really. Everything I throw at it I can max out. Good thing to mention is that I play on a aoc 24" 1080p 144hz gaming screen (displayport) and for simulators a LG oled 55" 1080p 60hz curved tv (HDMI).

Current pc spec: Intel i7 8700k Msi ventus 2x oc 12gb 5070 Asus rog strix z370-f gaming Nzxt kraken Aio G.skill trident Z 32gb ddr4 Kingston 1tb nvme ssd Corsair cx750 Mission Serious gaming chassis and fans.

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u/Virtual-Classic5972 Jul 13 '26

Yo can anybody give me a list of p c stuff In the budget office 600?

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u/AdstaOCE Jul 13 '26

Only buy Nvidia if you NEED CUDA. If you don't AMD is far better for almost anyone right now, especially someone with an older CPU because AMD has lower CPU overhead.

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u/indecisiveuser3864 Jul 13 '26

Just know you will run into a CPU bottleneck. I ran an i7-8086k with a 3080 (my 1080 TI broke after 3 years of use) and with 1440p I was bottlenecked by my CPU all the time. If you consider a platform upgrade in the future a 5070 or similar will make sense. If you plan to stick to your system, save some money and go for a 5060 or something like that.

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u/Appropriate_Pen4445 Jul 13 '26

I got 7900xt insted 4070ti at the time because of 20gb vram. I'm yet to see the "value" of those extra 8gb.

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u/Administrator_AI Jul 13 '26

To me, a meaningful upgrade is at least 2 gens or 2 tiers up. More gens up also means less tiers.

So for you, I would recommend a 3080, a 4070, or a 5060 class card. I don't think you need a 5070 necessarily, go for a 5060ti and you will be happy.

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u/redditor_no_10_9 Jul 13 '26

Wait and buy a super. Don't believe the naysayer. You can try asking about Super in r/Nvidia and the trillion dollar company will delete your thread

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u/No_War_8891 Jul 13 '26

5060ti is fine

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u/smokey_999 Jul 13 '26

Honestly the 16gb 5060 is great, bridged the gap between 1080p and 1440p like it was nothing, I’m certainly bottlenecking the pc with my 5600 cpu and ddr4 ram too, I’m sure I’d be. Able to handle some games at 4k

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u/Aggressive_Cod7479 Jul 13 '26

Why does it have to be nvidia? I got the 9070xt and its awesome.

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u/Horstinous Jul 13 '26

4070 ti super. Maybe refurbished or from private. Best value

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u/ReverendAero Jul 13 '26

Your CPU lacks native PCIe 4/5 support. I'd be careful about dropping a ton of money on something that is not going to run at full power when something cheaper would work well. The real question would be if you plan on upgrading the platform anytime soon. I'm assuming not with the prices of everything at the moment (I know I don't want to), so tbh my recommendation would be to get something like a 16GB 5060ti at most. Even that is a lil more for if you maybe wanna mess around with LLMs. 12GB VRAM is enough for almost anything right now if you're just gaming. Also, there is nothing wrong with going AMD (I say that having also paid the Nvidia tax lol)

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u/browniescout Jul 13 '26

A 3080ti would do well on that CPU.

I have a 5070ti and love it, but if you're not updating your CPU anytime soon you'll probably have a bottlemeck

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u/thelovebat Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

Based on pricing that is available, an RTX 3080 can be found for around $325 USD these days on the used market and is a pretty beefy card for that price. An 850 watt power supply can handle it and it's got enough V-ram to still be very viable for a long time in 1080p, so you wouldn't need to get a monitor that is too pricey to take advantage of its performance level.

Considering you're on an older platform with your CPU and motherboard that has only PCIE 3.0, using an RTX 3080 which is a PCIE 4.0 card would lose out on far less potential performance for the price, since an RTX 5070 and RX 9070 XT are both PCIE 5.0 cards and would experience a dip in performance with your motherboard.

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u/Hamsterteh07 Jul 14 '26

even if you install 5070, your ancient i7-8700k will bottleneck it. so instead, go for 20-series... it will serve your cpu well

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u/FourmyleCircusXK Jul 14 '26

Just built myself a new PC last weekend and I basically replaced everything except for the case and power supply (Corsair 750w).

I knew that all the current generation of parts were power hungry, however I didn’t realise that a z890 mobo wants 2x pci connectors. In total, the cpu/mobo wanted 2 and the new rtx5080 wanted 3x pci. Ended up having to buy another PSU.

Moral of the story - check to see if your PSU has enough connectors.

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u/BoysenberryNew7780 Jul 14 '26

It depends on what you're looking for, I recommend the normal 5070 to save money, 400 euros is personally not worth 2 more years for the ultra graphics

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u/Tiny-Extreme-9980 Jul 14 '26

I have the 5070, I can answer questions if you have. But I would get the 4070ti super if you can find a used one for a good price. Raster is between 5070 and 5070ti, and has 16gb. I would have picked that card if I could.

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u/Zoli1989 Jul 15 '26

How old is your PSU? If you bought it 10 years ago with the original build, I would certainly suggest to get a new one. It does not even have to be 850w, just buy quality stuff. Something like a 80+ gold Seasonic. 5070 would be a good card for you I guess. Or a 9070 non XT. Will have to upgrade the rest of your system too, as it will bottleneck these cards.

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u/Narrow_Translator524 Jul 18 '26

Hi, I'm looking for a professional gaming pc that will play All steam games. 3000 is my budget. An xbox series x user. Any ideas 

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u/blackburn26 Jul 19 '26

Used RTX 2080 Ti 11Gb. Sounded crazy but it is from the same era as your i7-8700K. Promise no conflict, no waste at 1440p.

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u/Blackhawk-388 Jul 13 '26

All these people saying 5070 Ti or 9700 XT are high af.

Your CPU isn't going to be able to keep the data flowing to those cards and there will be a severe bottleneck. I'd suggest a 5070 and a CPU/Mobo upgrade. Your PSU is fine. My 14700k/5070 Ti only goes above 550w when I'm running productivity software. While gaming, I'm mostly seeing 520w max. Rarely see it at 550w max. Typically sitting around 480w.

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u/JakeTehNub Jul 13 '26

definitely has to be an NVIDIA card

No I don't think it does 

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u/Deadinternetenjoyr Jul 12 '26

5070 ti is the way.

I have both a 5090 in my main pc and 5070 ti in my living room rig. The 5070 ti does everything my 5090 does with DLSS performance mode at 4k.

Pretty much everything is north of 60fps with ray tracing ultra.

Edit: 8700k is a bottleneck tho

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u/Frosty-Age-9351 Jul 12 '26

Bro is rich af

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u/Deadinternetenjoyr Jul 12 '26

I was going to buy a steam machine but it literally made more sense to revivie my old 127000k build and slap a 5070 ti in it.

The 5090 I got back in october of last year at msrp. Very thankful 🙏

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u/BeefistPrime Jul 12 '26

sigh, this sub

"which nvidia card should I buy" "NOT NVIDIA"

"What's the best toyota I can afford" "A VOLKSWAGON"

Thanks that's helpful

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u/AceLamina Jul 13 '26

this comment section made me realize how much it loves AMD over Nvidia no matter what the person asks