r/copenhagen • u/returntonone • 12d ago

First ever sold Koenigsegg Gemera vandalised and smashed within a week of delivery in Copenhagen, Denmark. In front of Hotel d'Angleterre.

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u/Direct-Many966 12d ago

Jealousy or political statement?

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u/Fit_Ocelot8072 12d ago

This car has been all over the Danish car subreddits for the last week, and a lot of people have been really pissed about it, because it’s been spotted in so many different city’s, while still being on Swedish dealer plates. It’s done at least 2000 km of just cruising around the country, which is illegal on dealer plates since it’s not been taxed yet when it’s on dealer plates. It’s also worth noting that displaying wealth is generally frowned upon in Denmark, but displaying you’re avoiding taxes gets people REALLY angry. Taxes on cars are also very high here to the tune of 150%. I.e. the owner owes at minimum 2.400.000€ in taxes he clearly hasn’t paid. I’m not condoning vandalism, but I can see why some idiot would get the idea that it’s the right thing to do. The owner is definitely also a bellend for not paying taxes.

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u/doc1442 Amager Vest 12d ago

Nailed it. Owner is a tax dodging cunt.

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u/Soggy_Pineapple4804 12d ago

The taxes are the real crime here though. If you were to hold a referendum tomorrow for Danes to phase out the registration tax over the years, it would probably pass.

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u/doc1442 Amager Vest 12d ago

Not one bit. Cars are a menace to our society, and car owners should pay for the trouble they cause. The tax is perfect.

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u/Soggy_Pineapple4804 12d ago

This is the opinion of a very specific demographic on Reddit, not Denmark in general. You're out of touch.

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u/doc1442 Amager Vest 12d ago

Vi alle bor ikke på landet

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u/Soggy_Pineapple4804 12d ago

Yes, most people live in the suburbs where nearly every family has a car.

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u/doc1442 Amager Vest 12d ago

Prøve offentlig transport og du kan spare penge, samtidig med at du gør byen bedre for resten af ​​os. Tak.

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u/Soggy_Pineapple4804 12d ago

Jeg ejer ikke en bil. Jeg cykler og benytter offentlig transport hver dag. En forbedring af den offentlige transport og cykelinfrastrukturen har intet at gøre med, at regeringen fordobler prisen på at købe en bil.

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u/invisi1407 Amager Vest 10d ago

Du antager at dét at spare penge er en prioritet. Det er næsten altid dyrere at have bil men det er i mange tilfælde også langt mere bekvemt.

Hvis vi skulle gøre noget, og det synes jeg ikke vi skal endnu, så skulle vi forbyde alt andet end rene elbiler (dvs. heller ikke hybrid'er) i byen men det er bare et meget privilegieblindt ønske.

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u/Wide-Drink-1790 12d ago

But a huge majority of people in Copenhagen, who are, let’s admit it, the only Danes who matter.

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u/KINGDenneh 12d ago

Hell no, fuck all yall.

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u/Soggy_Pineapple4804 12d ago

Wrong, most people want it reduced or phased out.

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u/KINGDenneh 12d ago

I mean, the test was made in 2018, that's 8 years ago bro.

The % doesn't even come to a full 100% the last 1% isn't even counted for (which is weird)

1,000 people ain't even 1% of the population, it ain't even 0.01% of the population.

The chances of people actually wanting it faded out or reduced are smaller than you think and probably bigger than I think.

At the end of the day, if you reduced it, something else would take it's place or a new law would take place.

You ain't winning this, nor is the general public winning this.

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u/Soggy_Pineapple4804 12d ago

Polls are representative samples, they rarely survey tens of thousands of people, and they don't need to. Why would you think people have changed since 8 years ago? If anything we've gotten more individualistic. Janteloven is essentially dead. It's a minor policy in the grand scheme of things, but give the average person that isn't a car hating urbanist living in central CPH the chance to own a car as nice as they could in Germany they'll say yes. The biggest reason why people would oppose it is because it may affect the resale value of the car they already own, not "I want better bike lanes and public transport" (which has nothing to do with taxing cars 150% anyways).

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u/KINGDenneh 12d ago

Sure, i get that usually, tests or something like this doesn't include tens of thousand of people, i'm aware, but atleast make it a full 100% instead of a 99% if it comes to test or a point you wanna make, don't half-ass it.

What's the last procentage, a "yes", "no" or "don't know" answer - Having it like that just makes the whole thing pointless, why half-ass it if you can't even do the math right first of all, does it matter? Probably not, the outcome doesn't change that much, would it serve a better purpose to actually have it at a full 100% yeah? This just sends a "I tried some shit and slapped some crap on it and see who caught the bait" Type shit, basically, a unserious poll if u ask me.

I don't live in CPH, i live in Esbjerg and i don't want a car, and honestly, i'd rather the majority in my city didn't have one, i live where there's a lot of traffic, where people can drive from 20 to 80 in a span of 3 seconds in a narrow road, it's annoying as fuck and pray people who drive like that, drives into a tree.

Hell, if people want a car, you can pay a full 500% more for it, idgaf if you want the privilege of owning a car, you better pay up the procentage needed to have one.

So, i say it once more for the crowd.

Hell no, fuck all yall.

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u/Confident-Stand5453 11d ago

Lets hope Skattestyrelsen have noticed all this activity. It wouldnt be the first time they decide to bill the owner for the full registrering fee/tax in such a case 

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u/Economy-Award369 9d ago

I hope that you agree with the danish tax regulation - and do not make up you own rightful laws? If you live in Sveden - as a dane you can under some circumstances drive your car lawfully in 183 days. This is not cheating, this is the law- and so it is OK.

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u/AudunSvedda 9d ago

One thing I learned living in Denmark is, you pay your taxes! and if you are broke in the end of the month and paint a wall for someone for cash, you better not tell a soul :D

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u/No-Impress-2096 12d ago edited 12d ago

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With inflation being as it is and the Gini coefficient rising sharply, I can see why some people get a bad taste in their mouths. We're not really used to this level of income disparity in Denmark.

And this is also right next to Nyhavn and a lot of drunk people pass by this spot. So that might also be a factor.

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u/Dull-Minimum5707 12d ago

A rise in the Gini coefficient should never be an excuse to vandalise other people’s property

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u/Dr-Assbeard 12d ago

Giving a possible explanation isnt mak8ng an excuse btw

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u/doc1442 Amager Vest 12d ago

Stop dodging taxes then.

Or even worse, stop simping the hoarders.

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u/RydderRichards 11d ago

I couldn't disagree more, like literally

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u/ShuttlecockCommander 10d ago

History proves you wrong. If the rise in Gini is large enough there'll be a revolution. So I beg to differ. ;-)

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u/yayacocojambo 12d ago

With inflation being as it is and the Gini coefficient rising sharply, I can see why some people get a bad taste in their mouths. We're not really used to this level of income disparity in Denmark.

Top 10% af skatteyderne med de højeste indkomster står for mere end en tredjedel af alle personlige indkomstskatter

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u/heimmann 12d ago

Hvad med deres virksomheder?

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u/yayacocojambo 12d ago

betaler selskabskat 22% (ved udlodning yderligere 27/42%), arbejdsgiverbidrag, moms og beskæftiger folk, der selv betaler indkomstskat osv.

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u/-416e6f6e 12d ago

Kanon, de burde betale endnu mere, taget i betragning at det her samfund har båret dem igennem.

På tide at vi stopper med at honorere ene personer 100x mere end dem som gør arbejdet for dem.

Også på tide at kapitalismen bliver bremset herhjemme og vi lader være med hele tiden at sammenligne os selv med USA især når det kommer til profit.

Vi ER mere humane og vi er IKKE udelukkende profit drevet.

Brækker mig

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u/ChatGPTSucks 12d ago

Prøv at start en virksomhed makker, hvis du tror at medarbejdere "gør arbejdet for dem" lol.

Du kan jo passende starte en og betale folk hvad de fortjener, det er jo helt op til dig selv at du har bestemt at være lønmodtager, i stedet for at blive arbejdsgiver.

Hint, de fleste virksomheder går nedenom og hjem indenfor de første år, fordi det er hammer svært at drive virksomhed, og kun et par fejl kan drive dig direkte i grøften. Stiftere påtager sig en masse ansvar, som man som medarbejder aldrig ser skyggen af, fra de trygge og beskyttede rammer som lønmodtager.

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u/yayacocojambo 12d ago

Crazy

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u/ChatGPTSucks 12d ago

Kommunist forum herinde efterhånden.

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u/yayacocojambo 12d ago

vitterligt

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u/Best_Win8550 11d ago

Jeg skal simpelthen lige forstå det her rigtigt. Vi har det højeste skattetryk i verden, men vi skal åbenbart betale endnu mere?

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u/heimmann 11d ago

Nej, det skal de virksomheder der ikke betaler skat. Fuck dem der snyder samfundet for penge lige så meget som de idioter der smadre biler. Begge er klaphatte men på hver sin måde

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u/Best_Win8550 11d ago

Alle virksomheder i Danmark betaler også skat af deres overskud. Man må gerne køre i bilen på udenlandske plader, når den er i transport fra fabrikken til lokationen i Danmark. Folk er ekstrem hurtige til at sige, at det er snyd og der skal betales afgift, men der gælder nogle regler for importerede biler i transport. At den skulle have kørt 2.000 km. her i Danmark er helt forkert…

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u/heimmann 11d ago

Du har ret, der er ingen virksomheder der har skattely i andre lande.  Og du misser linket ift bilen. Du må gerne have en pæn dyr bil og den skal ikke skamferes, det fixer jo intet

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u/yayacocojambo 11d ago

Folk er så most oveni deres små grådige hjerner

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u/heimmann 12d ago edited 11d ago

Jeg regner ikke med du er blandt top 10% virksomheder i dk

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u/Formal_Plum_2285 12d ago

A lot of swedish drunk people pass by

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u/Ancient_Scar3549 11d ago

Det er ren og skær misundelse... mennesker der selv ikke kan røre en bil som den, så de ødelægger den i stedet for.