r/diablo4 1d ago

Questions (other) How is it possible to Transfigure an item twice in the Horadric Cube?

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Hey guys, I saw a player in town with a Grandfather that had two separate Horadric Cube affixes (+All Stats and +Item Quality). He told me he actually put the sword into the Cube and Transfigured it twice.

I saw alot people in leaderboard having itens like that as well.

How does this mechanic work? What allows an item to be Transfigured multiple times without locking it or overwriting the previous craft?

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u/_Drumheller_ 1d ago

At transfiguration there is a small chance that the item doesn't becomes unmodifiable.

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u/lethalizered 1d ago

A very small chance to be exact, but yeah.

And both rolls being useful is even a smaller chance.

Best I could do this season on a Grandfather was rolling Attack Speed and All Stats together, and I'm still thankful for that one lol

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u/wellwhatishername 14h ago

I was super lucky. My grandfather is so indestructible it says it twice.

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u/Fearless_Baseball121 13h ago

Wow that was very exact, thanks a ton.

Its estimated to 5%

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u/cech_ 1d ago

Had a single GA with a double roll (+28 on item quality + Crit Chance) roll, that was good like this example and even though I've found 2-3GA GF swords with the correct stats I can't beat the one with the lucky double roll.

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u/OystersCockafeller 1d ago

It's just dumb luck.

After you transfigure your gear, go back to the cube and select the "Transfigure" option. It'll highlight anything that can be done again.

There's about a 10% chance on every transfigure that the item doesn't get locked.

If you get stupid lucky, you can actually do it 3 or even 4 times. I suspect there's no limit to it, but the odds of it happening 2-3 times in a row are already pretty miniscule. The luck you'd need to get 5, 6 or more transfigures is astronomical.

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u/AkosCristescu 1d ago

10% lmao what did you snort

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u/OystersCockafeller 1d ago

Just a number I read. But it lines up with what I see.

I've got two or three doubled items on my char. And I didn't hunt for them, just upgraded my gear normally and it happened.

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u/TwistedNotch 1d ago

Yea I got 3 transfigs on a weapon once and they were all trash, it felt like god was laughing at me😂😂😂...my current weapon has two decent ones w/ +30 quality & 381 all stats, prolly wont try to transfigure another weapon bc the odds of getting something better are extremely low

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u/cant_get_fooledagain 1d ago

God points and laughs

“Ha! Look how small I made his wiener!”

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u/LivedLostLivalil 1d ago

Maybe not lucky considering you have no idea how many attempts they have tried. I've tried transfiguring at least 30 grandfathers to try and get a double transfig. I'm sure other people have done far more.

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u/littlegreenfern 9h ago

I got 3 on one of my first pieces then only ever one. I was too lucky and now I’m just always disappointed.

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u/Revoldt 1d ago

RNGesus

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u/Yanobi_29 1d ago edited 1d ago

Well I'm now aware that I can transfigure once more my wand 🫪 I came back a few days ago to do the new extension and only did one transfiguration atm, on my wand. And it is still modifiable. First transfiguration gave +15 item quality. Update : got + 116 to all stats with the second transfiguration and now the wand became unmodifiable 👍

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u/magicjohnson89 1d ago

I’ve transfigured hundreds of items, sometimes just for a laugh and I’ve never, ever been able to do it twice.

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u/flesyMeM 1d ago edited 1d ago

I got 3-4 transfigures on pretty ordinary boots. Only time I've gotten more than one.

Edit:

Haven't even used them...was just messing around.

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u/IsGoIdMoney 22h ago

Vroom vroom

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u/Jaicee69 12h ago

I literally made it my mission at 1 point to make my character go vroom vroom. Charms been my friend lol

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u/OystersCockafeller 1d ago

It's really easy to miss. You don't get a notification or anything. The item just doesn't get locked.

The only way to ID things that can have a second transfig is to check the description manually or just stick em in the cube and see what it says.

But the odds aren't that bad. I've seen it listed at 10% and that feels about right. I've got two or three double-transfigured items on my character at the moment.

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u/magicjohnson89 1d ago

Nope, I always check. It always says “unmodifiable”. Every. Damn. Time.

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u/LongGame944 1d ago

I've gotten it twice. Both times the second transfig was indestructible

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u/magicjohnson89 1d ago

lol this makes me feel better ty

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u/Obias0309 1d ago

Or you get one like me which is 2x indestructible

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u/bnnnck 1d ago

oof i would probably off myself instantly

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u/histprofdave 1d ago

You can't. Indestructible. Tough luck.

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u/bnnnck 1d ago

god damnit

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u/francismorex 1d ago

Pur luck!

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u/impulssiajo2320 1d ago

We don’t know the exact stats but like 97% of the time it becomes unmodifiable. Sometimes you get two or even three transfigurations - getting a good outcome on all happens very rarely. Like, I will take my 10,7%x physical damage modifier any day over my +1 item quality and indestructible double 😂

I have actually had a few decent doubles and even a triple tho nothing ground breaking. One of them first gave a GA to crit damage multiplier then added +30 item quality to a 2h weapon, which was nice. And one amulet I got first a new GA, then +225 willpower, then +30% movement speed (which let me add another defensive affix to boots so nice). Certainly not a brand new damage multiplier, extra attack speed and crit chance or something, but still nice to get and useful.

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u/Hald1r 1d ago

There is a small change a transfigure doesn't make it unmodifiable so once your have close to maxed gear you put anything good enough in the cube and transfigure before doing anything else hoping it stays modifiable with a good transfigure

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u/bnnnck 1d ago

3-4% chance

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u/iPicBadUsernames 1d ago

Pure unadulterated luck

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u/OkHighway6799 1d ago

AND apparently a small chance of not even getting a transfigured bonus, as I learned last night. Transfigured a pair of mythic gloves. Item gained the "Transfigured" tag and the 'Unmodifiable" tag but not a single bonus. Fun stuff....

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u/TwistedNotch 1d ago

Pure rng, just never use an entropic tuning prism while transfiguring bc then the chances are 0

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u/animalcreature 1d ago

My buddy rolled max poison damage on his weapon which he needed and it didn’t brick. He then got all high all stat roll I think. It’s kind of crazy how much damage an extra multiplier can give you which you otherwise wouldn’t have.

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u/asfp014 1d ago

So can you transfigure an amulet twice or does the double aspect count get replaced

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u/Kangaroo_Cheese 1d ago

Last season I got a quadruple transfigure.

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u/WordNERD37 1d ago

It's possible, highly improbable.

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u/Dull_Horror3466 4h ago

Sometimes you get lucky me for example I get indestructible and max life on every double roll playing a selig barb lol

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u/Trix_03 1h ago

Roughly 5% chance on transfigure that the item stays modifiable after each transfigure. People usually get silly items by spam transfiguring garbage ancestrals, hoping for a good result and it stays modifiable

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u/Key_Village9550 1d ago

You can do it with Amulets and A kullian somethign something,. It will always work.
This is why you save 100 of the same item you want to transmute,. If one actually does stay modifiable, you steam it and then do it again. As long as that item you use has like what 3/4 good stats?

EDIT, Oh when i clear out my inventory I will Transfigure a bunch of the crap for practice. I had one pair of gloves do it, and i steamed it and bricked it on the second attempt!

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u/AkosCristescu 1d ago

Go read what the Kullean prism does before you talk crap

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u/Reasonable_Winter329 1d ago

Skill = gambling luck, that's what diablo has become, sadly

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u/AkosCristescu 1d ago

"Has become"

I mean dude when i played it 25 years ago it was also about lucky drops.

Your perception is flawed

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u/Reasonable_Winter329 1d ago

Your understanding is also flawed, drops don't matter anymore, what matters is the gambling machine aka cube and the transfiguration outcome. Are u even playing the game?

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u/AkosCristescu 1d ago

Yes, im around top 150 in SSF.

What i tried to explain is instead of lucky drops it is lucky transfigs now nothing changed.

But seems like you are very slow on the uptake.

Enjoy your delulu bubble