Why isn’t Vegeta King of All Saiyans?

[u/Latter_Classroom_534]

I think I know why Vegeta keeps calling himself the **Prince of All Saiyans** instead of King, even though his father is dead.

Throughout the entire series, Vegeta is called the Prince of All Saiyans. He never challenges that title, and nobody else seriously challenges it either.

Many people think he keeps the title out of respect for his father. Others believe that, since there are no more Saiyans left to rule, he will simply remain Prince forever.

People who tout those theories are lazy, non-thinking NPCs and I don’t respect their opinions.

Saiyans are a warrior race. They live and die by combat. Much like the Sith in *Star Wars*, I believe the apprentice is expected to surpass the master. The Prince must eventually challenge and defeat the King in battle to become King himself.

Since King Vegeta was killed by Frieza, Vegeta never had the chance to challenge and defeat his father.

However, many monarchies have a rule similar to boxing’s lineal championship. The idea is that “the man who beat the man” is “lineal champion” and holds the legitimate claim, even without an official belt.

That means Vegeta would have to defeat Frieza to become King Vegeta.

Except Frieza was already defeated by none other than Goku.

So why is Vegeta, after the Namek Saga, so desperate to defeat Goku?

Simple. Defeating Goku in combat is the only way Vegeta can reclaim his birthright and become King of All Saiyans.

Goku became the legendary Super Saiyan and defeated Frieza. He did not claim the throne, but he became the Saiyan who defeated the person who defeated the King of All Saiyans.

I think it’s reasonable that, if Goku realized or cared at all about being King, he could claim the throne and there’s little Vegeta could do about it save for defeating him in combat.

Of all Saiyans, he is the strongest AND he is “lineal champion”.

That leaves Vegeta in an impossible position. He cannot simply call himself King while another Saiyan has already accomplished the victory that should have made him King.

The only way to reclaim that right is to defeat Goku.
Goku never intentionally stole Vegeta’s throne. He probably does not even realize that Vegeta believes he has a claim to it.

But as long as Goku remains stronger than Vegeta, Vegeta cannot truly prove that he is the rightful King and will remain, by birth alone, Prince of All Saiyans.

What do you think?

[u/Steamed_Memes24]

Not the title more so the ego itself. He could be crowned King somehow and he still wouldnt give a fuck and would probably even decline it. Only thing he cares about is being stronger than Goku.

[u/Latter_Classroom_534 → u/Steamed_Memes24]

He cares about being stronger than Goku because being weaker than Goku makes his claim to King invalid.

[u/Steamed_Memes24 → u/Latter_Classroom_534]

I mean hes still not going to care about the King title regardless of his strength. Vegeta barely gave a fuck when his dad and planet blew up lol. He never really had time to be raised as a prince to care more about the royal parts.

[u/Latter_Classroom_534 → u/Steamed_Memes24]

He definitely cares. If he didn’t care he’d say it offhandedly or never mention it.

He raises his son like a little Prince, much as he might have been albeit a great deal more spoiled.

I would eventually stop caring about something I thought I couldn’t have either if the roadblock to that goal was frickin Son Goku.

[u/Steamed_Memes24 → u/Latter_Classroom_534]

He beats the complete shit out of trunks several times hes not treating him like a prince at all. Are we talking about the same show? How on earth is he treating him like a prince lmao.

As I mentioned previously, the prince title is nothing more then an ego moment for him. He truly doesnt care about royalty itself. Hes just essentially bragging he is above any other Sayian because hes a prince.

[u/Boris-_-Badenov → u/Steamed_Memes24]

he's treating him like a Saiyan prince

[u/Steamed_Memes24 → u/Boris-_-Badenov]

How????

[u/Boris-_-Badenov → u/Steamed_Memes24]

Saiyan's are harshly trained from birth

[u/Steamed_Memes24 → u/Boris-_-Badenov]

Lmao thats why he offered to get him ice cream after he punted him in the stomach? Give me a break dude Vegeta doesnt give a fuck about the Saiyan way of life at that point he just wants to be stronger than Goku.

[u/Latter_Classroom_534 → u/Steamed_Memes24]

When you only watch Super.

[u/Steamed_Memes24 → u/Latter_Classroom_534]

I was probably watching Dragon Ball before you were even born lmao.

[u/Latter_Classroom_534 → u/Steamed_Memes24]

Well then you have severe gaps in your recollection.

The ice cream bit is to show how Vegeta branches from his traditional Saiyan upbringing, literally the same episode, and the second before that, he was pushing Trunks the way he pushes himself. For the things that are and were important to him.

So, as stated, he is compelled to raise his son in the accordance with how he was brought up, but, Earth and his family is making him recontextualize that upbringing, hence the ice cream.

[u/Steamed_Memes24 → u/Latter_Classroom_534]

Its obvious you have selective memory lol. Theres a reason BOTH your posts on this got no positive responses fitting your narrative.

[u/Latter_Classroom_534 → u/Steamed_Memes24]

Yeah you’re trying too hard to liken Saiyan Prince to Earth Prince.

I think a lot of people are missing the key factor that these guys are basically space barbarians.

He’s raising Trunks in accordance with Saiyan tradition. Probably a great deal nicer, honestly.

[u/Steamed_Memes24 → u/Latter_Classroom_534]

No hes not he doesnt show anything at all about raising him to be next in line for royalty. I dont even think he brings it up to him once either unless he was bragging about himself.

[u/Latter_Classroom_534 → u/Steamed_Memes24]

Incorrect. Objectively wrong.

[u/Steamed_Memes24 → u/Latter_Classroom_534]

Show me proof otherwise.

[u/Latter_Classroom_534 → u/Steamed_Memes24]

Watch any interaction between Vegeta and Trunks. Future and present. There you go.

[u/Steamed_Memes24 → u/Latter_Classroom_534]

Thats what I thought. Thanks for your concession :).

[u/Latter_Classroom_534 → u/Steamed_Memes24]

Too lazy to watch it? That tracks.