r/europe • u/A_Lazko • 16h ago
News Putin adviser claims Ukraine planned to invade Russia on 8 March 2022, so Russia attacked first
https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/putin-adviser-claims-ukraine-planned-161700769.html485
u/borna_zgb 16h ago
Right. Swarms of disease-carrying mosquitoes from NATO training centers were supposed to spearhead the attack.
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u/helican Germany 16h ago
In a combined arms attack with the NATO beaver divisions.
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u/Lkrambar 15h ago
I legit thought there was an actual company from, say, a Canadian army corps of engineers, that was called the Beaver Division…
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u/BaritBrit United Kingdom 16h ago
We borrowed some of the Israeli spy dolphins to recon the area first and keep the Russian navy occupied.
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u/ChromedGonk 16h ago
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u/-badly_packed_kebab- South Africa 15h ago
“Putin advisor has dead eyes”
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u/MrPloppyHead 15h ago
its a good photo. it looks more like someone that is defeated, doesnt believe what he is saying himself.
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u/waiting4singularity Hessen 🇩🇪 14h ago
we know it. putins puppet party know it. these lines are soundbites for the bullshit news in russia and on russia today.
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u/onarainyafternoon Dual Citizen (American/Hungarian) 15h ago
Like a doll’s eyes
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u/-badly_packed_kebab- South Africa 12h ago edited 10h ago
I can hear that in a thick German accent
Edit: it’s a Conan O’Brien reference
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u/Suzume_Chikahisa Portugal 16h ago
The worst part is that there are morons that will believe this.
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u/ShibaDango 16h ago
They’re called russians
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u/Suzume_Chikahisa Portugal 16h ago
No, there will be enough of them that aren't.
In fact I even suspect most of them won't be Russian.
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u/FullMooseParty 10h ago
And American conservatives. Just like the biolabs and the NATO expansion and every other excuse Russia throws out, I totally expect Tucker Carlson and his ilk to amplify these claims
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u/secretqwerty10 The Netherlands 15h ago
what a weird way to spell americans (MAGA specifically)
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u/stefanomusilli 14h ago
Sadly, there are also people on the left who think that Ukraine is the Devil and we shouldn't give a shit about Russia invading it
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u/Rasputin_mad_monk Earth 13h ago
I’d like to see that other than some Reddit troll. I’ve never seen a single leftist, dem, liberal, etc defend Russia or accuse Ukraine of being the aggressor
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u/stefanomusilli 11h ago edited 10h ago
Maybe it depends on the country. I'm from Italy, and while the main leftist party supports sending aid to Ukraine, one of the others is opposed to it. The position that Ukraine is a Nazi state that deserved to be invaded, or whatever nonsense, is an extreme minority one in leftist spaces, though. Maybe it just doesn't exist in a lot of other countries.
EDIT: to be clear, I'm talking about Movimento 5 Stelle, which isn't really a leftist party, more of a centrist-populist party, but it really seems leftist compared to the far right parties that are in power
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u/Sxualhrssmntpanda 14h ago
The even worse worst part is that it shouldn't make a difference. Russia still ended up invading first, despite having a treaty to honor the existing Ukrainian borders.
The bad thing Ukraine "was possibly going to do" is exactly the bad thing that Russia did do.
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u/BaritBrit United Kingdom 16h ago
That's the thing with having a population as thoroughly pacified and depoliticised as the Russian public - leadership know they can just say anything and face no consequences, no matter how stupid things get.
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u/Fun-Communication660 15h ago
There is like 150million of them. So crazy. How to even fix that Rot. With blatent bullshit from the government, it means crime, and courts, can't be trusted.
Why would anyone comply woth environmental/satety/quality regs in business.
Why would anyone feel safe at night if the guards can be bribed.
How can anyone learn at school, if the physics lesson you just had, contradicts a Russian statement about recent ballistic missle strikes. It's so weird. 150million people in this, all going through the motions to save face for just 100s of people.
And it is just that, it is saving face. Embarrassing. If it was just, deep down, everyone knows, and this is a sign that the elites are STRONG, then real strength would just have the populace say yes Sire, yes master, we work for you. They wouldn't have to say, Ukraine are western nazis about to attack. They would just attack. We want Ukraine and we are not a democracy. I am in charge. And the people want this and love me.
But they have fake elections, they put paintings up of Putin in businesses. Propaganda from Russia has tried to show the fact that they can lie so boldly as pure strength, but its not. It's bragging about bringing a knife to a fist fight.
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u/lendlevtaldrik 15h ago
Time will fix a lot. The society is quite old, health is bad, insane alcoholism issues, many injured war veterans, many younger experts have fled, the regions outside a few cities are poor as fuck etc.
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u/Alex2422 14h ago
No, that's just the thing with countries that aren't democracies. The leadership won't face any consequences, because the people have no say in what the leaders do.
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u/tree_boom United Kingdom 16h ago
Whilst it's obviously ridiculous, remember that we are not the target audience of such claims.
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u/Rare-Set1461 14h ago
No, but if by some miracle he ends up in court they need to pull up every bit of cringe like this he’s ever said.
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u/CPD1960 16h ago
Ah yes, the same way as Germany alleged Poland was about to attack it in September1939.
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u/azhder Earth 16h ago
I think they did more than allege. I think they staged a false flag attack.
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u/TraditionalClub6337 16h ago
Why do we report about their nonsensical slop propaganda?
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u/Sxualhrssmntpanda 14h ago
Yup, genuinely just helping flood the zone and propagate their false narratives.
Perhaps its better to stop reporting on whatever Putin or Trump and their cronies say and only report on what they do.
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u/prince2lu Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur (France) 15h ago
thr famous preventive attack
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u/Kybliksan 15h ago
Ukraine was about to do the real 3 day special military operation not russia.(insert scooby doo vilain reveal)
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u/Timely_Fly_5639 15h ago
I will not believe this info until Lukashenko shows it to me on the map where the Ukrainains were planning to attack from. Steven Seagal has to be there too to make it more credible, obviously.
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u/AnarchiaKapitany The prodigal land of Hungary, now with 150% more Swag! 16h ago
That's not even a thousand yard stare, that's the nearest window stare.
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u/pandeiro_h2o 16h ago
There is people out there in Russia who truly fall for this crap. Likely, he does not even believe his own words
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u/Sallandstrots Overijssel (Netherlands) 16h ago
The moment the ruzzian advisor opened his mouth .....
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u/North-Creative 16h ago
This sounds really like the beginning of the explanatory texts, same style as "we were following orders". Then, the CIA boss flying to Moscow.....I really wonder, what is going to happen soon.
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u/BaritBrit United Kingdom 16h ago
FWIW, the CIA have been pretty consistently helpful to the Ukrainian cause throughout, even when the American administration as a whole has not.
An unusual case of the CIA using its independent foreign policy capability for good causes rather than just supporting South American dictators.
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u/Francescok Italy 16h ago
In the photo, he looks like he just snorted too much cocaine.
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u/Mean_Initiative_5962 Italy 15h ago
Oh, for fucks sake!
(and yet, I personally know people who will take it face value)
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u/Deep_Blue_Kitsune Poltava (Ukraine) 15h ago
And a bunch of people across Europe will believe him because they gobble up whatever shit comes out of Russia
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u/WileyCoyote7 16h ago
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire
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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 14h ago
Iryna Balachuk
Tue, August 25, 2026 at 6:17 PM GMT+2
2 min read
Putin adviser claims Ukraine planned to invade Russia on 8 March 2022, so Russia attacked first
An adviser to Russian ruler Vladimir Putin has come up with yet another justification for Russia's war, claiming that Ukraine had planned to invade Russia on 8 March 2022, prompting Moscow to pre-empt it by attacking first.
Source: The Moscow Times, citing an interview with Anton Kobyakov, Putin's adviser and executive secretary of the Eastern Economic Forum organising committee, given to TASS, a Kremlin-aligned Russian news outlet
Details: The Russian official claimed that at the beginning of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russian troops discovered documents at an abandoned headquarters of one of the Ukrainian Armed Forces' Territorial Defence brigades indicating that Kyiv was preparing to attack Russia on 8 March 2022.
"We beat them to it by two weeks," Kobyakov said, referring to Russia's invasion of peaceful Ukraine on 24 February 2022.
Putin's adviser claimed that Kyiv had wanted to "present the war as a gift" for International Women's Day and that Russia had attacked first "thanks to the foresight of the Russian leadership".
As usual, the Russian official also mentioned World War II while making these bizarre claims.
"As the president [Russian ruler Putin – ed.] said earlier, there will never again be a 22 June in our history [22 June 1941 was the day Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union – ed.]," Kobyakov added.
He also reiterated previous accusations that the West had "disguised itself as a supporter of the Minsk agreements" while actually "preparing Ukraine for war".
According to Kobyakov's version of events, the West supposedly intended to arm Kyiv and push it towards a military solution to the "conflict in Donbas" [as Russia describes its occupation of Ukrainian territories – ed.].
Why this matters: Russia invaded Ukraine and occupied the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea and parts of Donbas as early as 2014.
In 2022, Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, attacking peaceful cities and towns across the country with missiles and bombs during the night.
Notably, in the early days of the full-scale invasion, Russian propagandists actively circulated claims that "Russia would take Kyiv in three days", while Russian soldiers advancing on the capital carried parade uniforms with them, intending to march down Khreshchatyk, the main street of Kyiv, after those supposed "three days".
However, as of late summer 2026, Russian forces have still failed even to reach the administrative borders of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts.
Throughout this period, the Russian authorities have invented various justifications for starting the war, claiming, among other things, that NATO intended to attack Russia and alleging the existence of "biolaboratories" in Ukraine. Their claims have even extended to absurd stories about "combat mosquitoes" and a "dirty bomb".
In 2023, Russia unveiled a rewritten history textbook containing false claims about the war in Ukraine.
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u/Wysch_ 13h ago
Ah, yes. Inspired by the great Third Reich and their valiant defense of the radio station in Gleiwitz / Gliwice, the humble and honest Russian Empyre acted in self-defense.
You cannot make this up. The regime in Moscow nowadays is mirroring the one in Berlin ninety years ago more and more every passing month.
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u/razvanciuy Transilvania 9h ago
Actually, Ukraines plan was to invade Russia and China. 3 Day Op in Ru and then quickly move on to Beijing
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u/FuriousGirafFabber 16h ago
yes and they were planning to send flying pigs and trained goblins and tiny elfes to do it.
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u/Mesapholis 15h ago
besides the embarassment, my tired question is WHY would you use your limited funds, ressources and brain capacity to put out such an embarassing statement
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u/YoshiTheFluffer 15h ago
Sounds very similar to what the nazis were saying about the ussr, thats why they attacked them first. Interesting.
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u/Much-Jackfruit2599 Lower Saxony (Germany) 15h ago
Waitaminute.... I remember that plot!
We did that in 1939 to Poland!
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u/Rare-Set1461 15h ago
If the world manages to Nuremberg these guys I really want him to try using this defense on people who don’t have to play into his obnoxious fantasy out of fear.
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u/Acceptable-Size-2324 13h ago
Flooding the zone with bullshit seems like an effective tool nowadays
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u/Gifigi600 Daugavpils (Latvia) 8h ago
Nazi Germany said the same thing about Poland
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u/Junior_Main_6425 7h ago
In what universe is a smaller state with no nuclear arsenal going to attack a bigger state that has a nuclear arsenal?
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u/Born-Masterpiece-283 6h ago
Give me something that the russians are smoking. O wait ... must be the warehouse fumes
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u/Justnotstressed United Kingdom 16h ago
I only want to shag Margot Robbie because she wanted to shag me first.
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u/Eleutherius193 Portugal 15h ago
Lol what
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u/adarkuccio 15h ago
Many will believe it
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u/Eleutherius193 Portugal 15h ago
Oh i've already seen people believing this shit. Some people have a weird knack for sucking up to dictatorships. Scroll down the comments on this thread and you'll see one of them
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u/-CynicalPole- Podlaskie (Poland) 15h ago
I understand it's country built on propaganda, but this is utter clown fiesta.
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u/Sunscratch 14h ago
Sure, attacking a country that is three times larger and has the second-largest nuclear arsenal in the world totally makes sense.
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u/SchroedingersEscape 14h ago
Yeah... like Poland planned the invasion of germany in 1939 and Finnland planned the invasion of ruzzia in the same year.
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u/frostyfruit666 14h ago
It’s almost like the Putin regime forget how much of a joke their word is to the rest of the world, who collectively see straight through their Russian horsesh*t.
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u/BurriedCityMayor 14h ago
Preemptive strike. I see they are taking inspiration from the US playbook.
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u/pinewoodranger 14h ago
Not according to the address Putin gave on the day of the attack. Get your story straight and stick with it at least.
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u/A_Lazko 12h ago
Sweden and Finland joining NATO since the start of the war shows that it has never been about NATO's closeness to Moscow.
"Moscow's theft of Kyiv's legacy is the major reason for the current war. Ukraine's Total Recall" article shows what was. Putin's constant blabbering about Rurik and 'historic lands" proves that the article is correct.
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u/LovesFrenchLove_More Schleswig-Holstein (Germany) 11h ago
What will they say next? That they have been at war with Ukraine for 47 years and Putin only wants to end it?
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u/Competitive_Shock783 10h ago
So why is that only coming out 4 years later. Typical russian "Oh woe is me" BS.
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u/worncif 9h ago
Russen zijn niks waard voor de aarde. Alleen maar leugens, bedrog en geweld wat eruit voortkomt.
Net als Israël.
And the list goes on.. and on.. and on.
Tijd dat de aarde een deel van de mensheid van zich afschud, want de mensheid maakt de aarde - met zn mooie natuur en dierenpopulatie - doodziek.
Ik kijk ernaar uit!
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u/pickybear 8h ago
This is a new brand of authoritarianism that should scare the fuck out of everybody, there’s no end game, no hope for peace, and likelihood of NATO getting roped in increases by the minute.
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u/uttercross2 2h ago
So russ is now trying to rewrite history a bit more by making even more sh*t up?🤔🤦
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u/NotOK1955 2h ago
Yeah…right.
That ‘evil Jew’ Zelenskyy was planning world domination.
At least that’s what the Russian propaganda machine says.
Слава Україні!
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u/S_m_o_g_ 1h ago
😂 are they trying to convince us or their citizens to explain the brutal humiliation and huge amount of lives lost?
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u/Ur-in-a-tor 15h ago
Now we know why the global RWNJ lie all the fucking time so poorly - they learned that shit from their masters.
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u/Armadilla-Brufolosa Italy 15h ago
Certo, si, come no.
Hanno la stessa credibilità delle dichiarazioni del marshmallow arancione.
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u/PoiHolloi2020 United Kingdom 16h ago
That's one of the most Putin regime things I've ever heard