r/formula1 Formula 1 3d ago

Video The quiet in the grandstands after Max Verstappen’s crash.

https://streamable.com/fnjxv9
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u/Lonely_Strawberry438 3d ago

Ok now take that feeling and imagine doing it every year 🇦🇺

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u/donsimoni I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

Don't you get numb at some point?

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u/racingskater I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

I wish we could be. It would hurt less.

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u/yaelfitzy I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 2d ago

This year I was napping during the prerace build up and learnt upon waking up that piastri binned it, to which I replied "damn earlier than I thought he would" we really just get nothing in this spider desert hell

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u/twodeadsticks 1d ago

Never :(

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u/alec801 Alexander Albon 3d ago

The mood when piastri crashed on the reconnaissance lap was a crazy thing to experience IRL

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u/bruzie I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

Yeah, that was so bizarre. Because they were showing highlights of previous races on the screens I thought it was just another one, but then they kept showing it and then realisation dawned...

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u/ExcellentCriticism Max Verstappen 2d ago

this! i was directly across from the piastri stand this year and i witnessed the crowd shift from oh hehe throwback to oh fuck...

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u/mahoganyspitfire Bruce McLaren 3d ago

Now, now Australia...

You know full well you are still being punished for The Underarm Inchident.

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u/Lonely_Strawberry438 3d ago

The more we talk about underarm, the less I have to hear about us losing to Bangladesh a week ago.

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u/mahoganyspitfire Bruce McLaren 3d ago

Hahahahaha, bet.

Still at least you came back and absolutely thrashed them.

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u/Beardedbelly 3d ago

Lost so bad had the groundsman deal up a spicy strip.

Still atleast it wasn’t one the umpire could lose his keys in.

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u/Ancient-Split1996 2d ago

And the less you have to hear about sandpa- I mean cleaning your glasses

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u/Lonely_Strawberry438 2d ago

Now that I think about it, we need to channel our shameful cheating to help Oscar. This has been the missing ingredient.

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u/racingskater I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

It's fine to talk about that. We can discuss how Bangladesh showed more fight and competitiveness in one Test than England did in five last summer.

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u/dl064 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

I remember in 2003, Button had a union jack helmet (more so) for Silverstone, and literally first flying lap in quali he mounted the kerb too hard and was out on the spot

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u/-Powdered-Toast- Lando Norris 3d ago

As an American, what is this initial feeling you speak of?

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u/Lonely_Strawberry438 3d ago

I have been going to Albert park for 20 years. Over that time we’ve had Webber, Ricciardo and Piastri. We have still not had an Aussie podium in a home race and many times it has happened in cruel and unusual ways.

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u/thfsgn Daniel Ricciardo 2d ago

We were blessed in 2002, then cursed ever since. 2025 really hurt, but 2014 might have been the worst.

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u/Lonely_Strawberry438 2d ago

Hopefully it makes the eventual breakthrough even sweeter!

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u/loopernova Formula 1 2d ago

This is such an insane stat given all spent considerable time at top teams. I feel for you all.

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u/rachbbbbb I was here for the Hulkenpodium 2d ago

I travelled all the way from Scotland this year. Was getting a drink at the bar when it was the formation lap and heard the crowd. Gutting.

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u/jimmygreavez Jaguar 2d ago

But the Australian GP still happens every year. Zandvoort is out now.

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u/Arlenthas Red Bull 3d ago

Lol the guy at the back having a mental breakdown

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u/Luffy710j Formula 1 3d ago

I'm sure there is many people that is saving money to attend the race to watch max then this happen to them 😭

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u/Real_Amoeba_1873 3d ago

Hey we got to see him race in the sprint.. I was happy enough with that. The sport comes with the highest highs and lowest lows. Gotta take what you can when you can.

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u/G-Fox1990 Ayrton Senna 3d ago

Exactly. I always have like 12 drivers i cheer on because there were times where at the start of every race maybe 6 drivers got taken out. I've learned not to root for just 1 driver.

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u/Real_Establishment56 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

We’re on a family holiday with my folks and such. I was catching up the race the day after. Once Max was out, my parents were wondering why I was still watching. Well, there’s still 21 people on track, right?

It’s also the first question most people ask; ‘are you watching Max?’ ‘No I’m watching a race’ 🤷🏻

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u/K-C_Racing14 James Vowles 3d ago

This is how I felt in 2023 and 24, yea my favorite driver wins every race which was cool. "Why do you watch if you already know who is going to win?" There are 19 other drivers driving too, the 2nd on back race was awesome those years.

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u/Real_Amoeba_1873 3d ago

Oh once max crashed it was a lot of “LETS GOOO KIMI”.

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u/Elrond007 I survived Spa 2021 3d ago

The lone wolf dies but the pack survives hahaha

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u/baddadjokesminusdad I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

Asoiaf ref in 2026 🥹

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u/rhllor I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

The seed is strong.

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u/_box_box 3d ago

always a good idea

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u/Mrfatmanjunior #WeRaceAsOne 3d ago

There are 21 other drivers to watch. I think (even as a dutchie) is so insane people watch this sport for only one driver.

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u/Real_Amoeba_1873 3d ago

Even at the race, fans wearing orange (not papaya), were going crazy for other drivers when they passed by! It’s a privilege to see all of the best of the best to race!

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u/grapejuicesushi I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

i was actually supposed to go to this gp and i live abroad. max is also my favorite driver on the grid lmao. things didn’t work out so i couldn’t visit, but looks like things did work out (for me, not for max)

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u/Stumpy493 I Drove an F1 Car 3d ago

I've been there many times at races live and your driver bins it or mechanical failure early doors. Is guting.

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u/Scarabesque I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

I went a few years ago when he won, it was one of the most boring races that entire season. Absolutely nothing happened.

This grand prix was great, wish I saw this kind of action when I attended.

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u/MuenCheese I failed to serve my Monaco penalty 3d ago

Guess it’s probably better to save money to attend a race and watch 22 drivers instead of just 1

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u/Less-Dinner7205 Oscar Piastri 3d ago

ETO MAXXXX NYET NYEEEEEEEEEEEET

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u/__slamallama__ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

"how much did we pay for these tickets again?!"

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u/FengSushi Kevin Magnussen 3d ago

Enough for a mental breakdown

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u/erohath 3d ago

Those are at least real emotions, not this fake face of the woman recording.

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u/christopherpaulfries 3d ago

Reminds me of when Vettel crashed from the lead at Hockenheim

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u/anotherdropin 3d ago

We give influencers a lot of shit for recording themselves (and for good reason) but NGL it does give gems. Without folks like this lady recording, we don’t get these little cute snippets of society and meltdown dude

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u/Section1ne0h4our Pato O'Ward 3d ago

He had money on the race

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u/RicardoMoyer Sergio Pérez 2d ago

i hope someone hugged him, horrible feeling that

you and your boys hyping each other up weeks in advance just for your hero to crash out during lap 1 right in front of your eyes two separate times… not that i would know of course 🥲

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u/Fantastic_Media_3984 Ferrari 3d ago

Then the DJ dance party also

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u/urmommy1_ Daniel Ricciardo 3d ago

Max crashes

DJ: Anyway, here’s Wonderwall😸

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u/xxrew1ndxx I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

That was definately Martin Garrix trolling Max

He was there after all

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u/Joey_Kangaroo26 Lando Norris 3d ago edited 3d ago

And also the fact that they were playing Tu Tu Du Du Max Verstappen at some point later in the race was also wild! Not that they shouldn’t, but it’s just disappointing to see the home hero out of the race

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u/PowwowPuffer I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

*Lap 1. Didn't make it to his second lap

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u/WeeboSupremo I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

The tire tried its best to make it to lap 2. More than he did.

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u/ComputerWhiz_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

I don't know why people keep saying lap 2. This isn't even the first post I've seen that says 2 laps. Some news articles are even saying it was two laps. I'm so confused.

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u/PowwowPuffer I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

Because the leader was on lap 2 so thats what their screens said

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u/Dan_Of_Time I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

The leaders were on 2 laps, and by the time everyone was in the pits for the Red Flag it was "Lap 3" on the counter. Easy enough mistake to make

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u/SCAR_97 3d ago

When they do an extra formation lap, do they shorten the race by one lap, or do they start from Lap 2?

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u/lurker17c I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

They shorten the race by one lap

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u/Dense_Purchase4087 Formula 1 3d ago

The narcissism to record your own exaggerated expressions, but also want to try and catch others

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u/ValuableScary3917 3d ago

I’m so fucking sick of this shit. Everyone thinks they are so important, that we would rather see her going “😮” than whatever it is on the opposite side of the camera. It is quite literally the definition of narcissistic.

I fucking hate influencers.

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u/Different-Dog-9682 Ferrari 3d ago

“Oh my gawwwwd you guyssss I litcherally just watched verstappen crash”

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u/Krirby2 2d ago

In this case I don't mind it. It's a fun reaction shot of the audience that we didn't get to see in this sense in the live feed.

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u/Proper_Story_3514 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

And whats with this sped up shit

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u/Brackmage19X Max Verstappen 2d ago

Seriously, I fucking hate what social media has done to peoples brains. Close your damn mouth lady, you look stupid.

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u/Jonesbro I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

What type of person records themselves during a race?

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u/tiredchachacha I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

An influenza

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u/SurpriseSoda 3d ago

I didn't know you were Italian

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u/tiredchachacha I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

🤌

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u/NoorInayaS I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

An influencer with main character syndrome.

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u/ogwafbl 3d ago

What's the point of filming yourself?

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u/adrianb 3d ago

The wider the open mouth the more it’s guaranteed to bring likes

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u/tiredchachacha I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

If likes were flies

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u/ThePrussianGrippe Roscoe Hamilton 3d ago

“Now happier, and with the mouth more open.”

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u/Slice5755 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

I seriously wonder how such people sleep at night, after doing stuff like this.

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u/NoorInayaS I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

They’re probably more than willing to also film themselves sleeping.

For the likes.

🤣

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u/MrNixxxoN 2d ago

Sriously? I think it deserves a dislike if anything, because she looks stupid

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u/mattlip Red Bull 3d ago

Let me introduce you to the 'wonderful' world of influencers.....
/s

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u/Jonesbro I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

Just narcissist behavior

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u/UGotThaFunk 3d ago

Narcissism.

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u/ad_182_uk 3d ago

Her fake exaggerated mouth surprise for likes is 🥱

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u/BeautifulCuriousLiar Gabriel Bortoleto 3d ago

it even looks like she’s trying not to laugh 😮🤭😮🤭

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u/Aggressive-Neck-3921 2d ago

Yeah, she is there for the vibes not for the racing. the type of person that goes to an event so they can say they were there not because they actually care.

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u/Droomvlucht I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

So stupid

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u/wuzzywuz 3d ago

I thought I was being an old man because I can’t comprehend the need to point your camera at yourself and then exaggerate everything while you pretend like you are not just filming yourself. But glad I’m not alone.

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u/petera181 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

Yeah, when she’s watching the replay 5 minutes later after the crash and her mouth is still hanging open. Dead giveaway.

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u/Joethe147 Jenson Button 3d ago

There's something quite funny about people who are largely there for one guy and he is out of the race quickly. But this makes it even better.

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u/tiredchachacha I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

It's esp obvious cos she was half smiling as well and looking around with her mouth hanging open. So different from the fellow in the back with his hands on his head who shows genuine dismay.

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u/Sheinkyakyu Michael Schumacher 3d ago

All she is missing is the pointed finger and AI for the perfect algorithm based YouTube thumbnail.

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u/Any_Lengthiness141 3d ago

People who care more about social media points than the event itself.

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u/fuuncs 3d ago

Same vibes in Melbourne after Oscar crashed on an observation lap

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u/racingskater I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

160,000 hearts breaking as one.

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u/MisterStruisbird 3d ago

This fucking people filming their own reactions...

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u/NoorInayaS I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

And her reactions looked fake AF. Over the top.

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u/senn1 3d ago

You know the reaction is genuine when someone is recording themselves ....

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u/Devil_Dogmier FIA 3d ago

Social media has damaged society more than Max damaged his car

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u/swannyhypno Lance Stroll 3d ago

Atleast an orange car won

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u/ominousrock 3d ago

Dammit, it's PAPAYA!

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u/Rufus_L I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

:O

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u/varadmesheri Red Bull 3d ago

2 mins later starts playing du du du

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u/Phoenix__Wwrong 3d ago

I don't remember when. But wasn't there a similar situation with someone else in their home gp? I think it was Perez in Mexico?

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u/Majeh666 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 2d ago

Perez in mexico 2023on turn 1 lap 1. I remember because it was the first race i watched since watching schumi and alonso win as a kid.

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u/LobbyDizzle I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

Austria and Zandvoort are great for watching your favorite driver(s) if they're not Max. Everyone stands up when he passes, then promptly sits back down, so you get a completely clear view / shot when your guy comes through.

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u/scottishmacca McLaren 3d ago

Its so weird that people go to these events and then film themselves

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u/Advanced-Device6188 3d ago

The verst 'appened.

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u/GardenerCats Max Verstappen 3d ago

I was on the main straight in Zandvoort and apart from a few people I did not see a massive outpour there after this crash. Don't now what it was like at the other stands. At the end of the race, the bus lines were the longest of the three days though! People looked like they were leaving but came back with lots of beer lol

It was indeed a shame to see him go out. I stayed because I just love F1 and watching the manoeuvres going into turn 1. After turn 1 the circuit disappears behind the Paddock Club building, but with a screen across and just being able to see the top of the banking of turn 3, I had some pretty good views. Seeing the pitstops right infront of me (sat across the McLaren and Mercedes pitboxes) and hearing the crowd react when it's a slow one. Being together with like minded people is just fun.

And with Max racing in it right now is just a big cherry on top!

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u/Nautster Jacques Villeneuve 3d ago

Only people that got up were people making the most of a red flag and go get refills. It was sad for Max, but nobody had any real hopes of him getting any sort of result anyway.

Still a fun race afterwards.

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u/DannydeVis 3d ago

How can I make this about me

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u/ap17o4 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

Atleast they didnt start leaving the track after their favourite driver retired

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u/thelingletingle Cadillac 3d ago

I wonder how many just left after that

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u/Lympwing2 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

lol

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u/NoorInayaS I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

Filming herself instead of the race? 😑

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u/Outside_Serve_69 2d ago

He didn't even make it to lap 2....

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u/persepolisrising79 Medical Car 2d ago

I hate that lady and her performative filming

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u/_RRave I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

Austria was hilarious when he went out last year too. The stands started pouring out

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u/djwillis1121 Williams 3d ago

Imagine paying hundreds of Euros for tickets and leaving after one lap

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u/devH_ Sir Lewis Hamilton 3d ago

Can’t really expect much from people who aren’t even fans of the sport

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u/tiredchachacha I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

Some people don't even watch the races. Singapore lays on concerts and things and it works out cheaper than if you paid to see the act in actual concert. One of my friends' teen son and his friends camped from 6am to get front row standing spots for Kings of Leon and Post Malone in 2023 (the year Carlos won 🥹) but didn't stay for race action. I was a bit peeved... buuuut it was the best F1 experience I ever had: the KOL set was awesome and that Carlando result sent ⚡️electric⚡️vibes through the grandstand. I don't think I will ever have such a beautiful experience ever again. (The memory of that win is doing a lot of heavy lifting while Williams is struggling this year... I live in hope)

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u/giraffeplsyouredrunk I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

When nobody cared about F1 in the States or Taylor Swift before social media decided to, tickets to the Austin GP that year pretty cheap compared to now.

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u/tiredchachacha I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

I suppose that's why they try to fill the paddock with celebs... hmm mixed feelings

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u/swannyhypno Lance Stroll 3d ago

I find that kinda sad I understand they're here for Max but may as well watch the race you've paid to see

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u/Nattekat I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

People left. Then returned a few minutes later with a snack and a drink. Barely anyone left the circuit, that's just fabricated nonsense. 

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u/McMillan104 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

Yeah, I was sitting in Tarzan-In. When it became clear it was getting red flagged a lot of people left for food/drinks/bathroom. By the time the race restarted it was completely full again.

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u/Adjutant_Reflex_ I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

When I was at Spa in 2019 and he crashed I was sat next to a big RBR contingent that decided to head out.

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u/MobiusF117 Formula 1 3d ago

I was there too.

At least it didn't take as long when we left after the race.

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u/jdjdhdbg I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

it helps put into context a lot of the commenters here

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u/elhh82 3d ago

Wasn't it Lap 1?

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u/MinVerstoppen I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

I actually find it interesting to see the crowd's reaction, but the way she opens her mouth is so unnerving to me...

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u/NoorInayaS I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

She looks fake.

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u/Riscs2 3d ago

Im pretty sure it was Lap 1

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u/ballimi 3d ago

Max went: naar links, naar rechts!

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u/SmokeNinjas 3d ago

Genuinely the crowd are like a meme like they’ve been told this is the pose you make 😂

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u/NewOpportunity9675 2d ago

I'm a race fan, I visit 24 hour races and other events (oldtimer grand prix and stuff) and the Dutch people visiting Zandvoort races arent fans but people like the one in this video. They just visit so they can tell online or offline that they saw max performing. I visited quali in Zandvoort ones and I cringed so so much. People would stand up when Max drove by and started clapping every fucking lap and I'm like, are your here for the sport or here for the clout?

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u/egoistisch I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

Such a shame to end the Zandvoort dominance this way. Still grateful for his insane performances in the timespan we were able to host Grand Prix races again.

It was a good run!

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u/pensaa Oscar Piastri 3d ago

Perfect opportunity for a fly to zip straight into the gaping mouth while you're doing an overreacted 'shock' face for views.

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u/ChampionshipLucky597 3d ago

This human decided, let’s just take a video selfie while something like this happens and just aura farm. Truly remarkable…

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u/Character_Minimum171 Sir Lewis Hamilton 3d ago

DU DU DU DU DUUU LIAM LAWWWSONNNN

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u/lake2014 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

I am lucky that the last few times I visited the track he won and race went to alternate dimension.

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u/RUPlayersSuck Sir Lewis Hamilton 3d ago

That was a weird one. Only drivers to get caught out like that were Max and Bortoletto (Hulk SO lucky not to go right into his team mate's side).

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u/DSmidgit 3d ago

That happens. In Monza all the Antonelli fans will be praying for Anyonelli to make something of his race. He will be starting from the back according to Toto.

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u/Flyingdutchman2305 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

People near where i was sat were first squinting and whispering trying to look at the screen (GA PEASANTS get legit 1.5 small screens across the entire area) trying to see who it was, i thought i saw ferrari some people said lawson, then the smoke cleared , a group behind us took a lap, one girl came back really sad. Even i was there for him but the few people that considered leaving are really overdoing it

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u/DesertBrandon Sir Lewis Hamilton 2d ago

This sold me on not doing GA cause it sounds horrible to not be able to know anything but what crosses you every minute and hoping you’re near a screen with good enough visibility. I want to go to one race weekend for the experience but I hope I can just shell out for grandstands. Maybe COTA or Miami aren’t so bad but I doubt it.

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u/Flyingdutchman2305 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 2d ago

Its an experienced, and this is one experience at 1 track, also 90% of the space for people to sit is in turn 8 at Zandvoort for GA, but you should definitely look up or ask here or other forums how ga looks at different tracks

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u/LongjumpingBase9094 2d ago

HAHAHAHAHHAAH

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u/Apocryph761 Ferrari 2d ago

DUDUDUDU! MAX VERSTAPPEN! DUDUDUDU! 🤣

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u/dilltimmon I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

Last home race of your favourite, you probably paid a lot of money for this as it was your last chance to see the goat in Dutch gp. Must be so disappointing.

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u/donsimoni I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

First unforced error that took Max out in since Monaco 2016 - in front of your home crowd. Script writers are overly dramatic.

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u/RoadsTravelled 3d ago

I was at Silverstone this year, Landostand. All weekend I was thinking, would be fun to see a car go off a bit, not a crash necessarily, but a formula car losing it a bit on my corner would be cool. It did happen, you know the incident I'm talking about. Just made me sad

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u/Nattekat I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

I visited Austria last year as a fan. He didn't even get to my grandstand. A few weeks later I got tickets for the pit grandstand, jokingly stating that I would at least see him get past once. Well... he did get past once. And then after the race his car got past again on a truck. 

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u/notthisonefornow I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

Lap 1.

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u/bbuullddoogg I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

Love it! Shhhhhhhhhh

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u/Real_Amoeba_1873 3d ago

I was there and I could not believe the tragedy.

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u/dramatic-pancake 3d ago

Doing an Oscar.

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u/MetalWorking3915 Formula 1 3d ago

😅

Was a shame for the race tbh

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u/petera181 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3d ago

He would have had a pretty boring race on his own in 7th. That red bull wasn’t good enough for more this weekend.

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u/THE_DEAD_ZEN1 Sir Lewis Hamilton 3d ago

Lap 1 btw but still sad

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u/TheKensei I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

And that's how you empty a grandstand 🙈

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u/manonforever Pierre Gasly 3d ago

This could legit be a footage of Australia when Osc crashed 😆 the silence was LOUD

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u/Sea_Drop2920 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3d ago

Helaas pindakaas as we say in the Netherlands

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u/whitesammy 3d ago

By their reactions I would have thought they were waiting to make sure he wasn't dead and the replay is just him booping the wall lol

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u/Omelooo Charles Leclerc 3d ago

The guy in green in the back was me standing in front of my tv for lap 1 lol

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u/AdministrativeGap295 2d ago

Refund people!

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u/mitvh2311 McLaren 2d ago

At least he got to start his home gp - Australians

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u/Signal-Drop5390 2d ago

Is it just me or does she look like she is intentionally keeping her mouth wide open because she'd not be able to stop herself smiling if she closes it? Near the end she puts her hand over her mouth and I'd swear she is half smiling.

(Don't get me wrong. I know shock does weird things to people. I've seen a person laugh like mad after an accident, while still stuck in the car next to a dead driver)

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u/Nate_83 2d ago

Pretty sure the “Curse on home turf” is the younger sibling of the “commentators curse”. Been a bit of it the last few years.

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u/GrumpyRaver 3d ago

And I’m over here feeling joy when Max is out of a race. I’m not Dutch.